U.S. Advises Secure Control Systems Against Anonymous

[Guest]

A recently published bulletin by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security shows that the government has a close eye on hacker group Anonymous, especially in their shift in interest.

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[mightymaxio]

Thats because anonymous are a bunch of script kiddies or mindless sheep that follow the herd where ever it may take them. Anonymous will get caught one of these days and everyone connected to it will be punished, I look forward to that day and not one of V for vendetta. Anonymous are crooks, nothing more complex than that.

 

[amk-aka-Phantom]

[citation][nom]mightymaxio[/nom]Thats because anonymous are a bunch of script kiddies or mindless sheep that follow the herd where ever it may take them. Anonymous will get caught one of these days and everyone connected to it will be punished, I look forward to that day and not one of V for vendetta. Anonymous are crooks, nothing more complex than that.[/citation]

These "script kiddies" caused quite a lot of mischief. If anything, I definitely respect their skills

 

[killerclick]

[citation][nom]mightymaxio[/nom]Anonymous will get caught one of these days[/citation]

It's not that kind of organization, it's not even an organization.

 

[beenthere]

The more of these criminal hackers that get prosecuted the better. It's just a matter of time as those in denial learn the hard way. See TPB for a reality lesson.

 

[darkchazz]

Please destroy facebook!!!!

 

[mightymaxio]

[citation][nom]beenthere[/nom]The more of these criminal hackers that get prosecuted the better. It's just a matter of time as those in denial learn the hard way. See TPB for a reality lesson.[/citation]
Exactly, when did people start thinking its ok to force their opinions on someone else? In the united states we call that dictatorship which is what anonymous is trying to do by forcing people to believe in what they believe by DDOSing, disrupting sites, protesting, etc... What happens if they win? Will we become slaves to them then? Because this is what happens in any country where the people overthrow a government.

I don't want anonymous deciding right and wrong for me, i want to make that decision myself and not have it enforced on me.

 

[CaedenV]

Anonymous is similar to a stand alone complex. It is decentralized, with unofficial membership that is easily swayed by the actions of other members who claim to be under the same banner. Governments are ill-equipped to deal with such 'organization' because it is simply not organized. If the current 'leadership' or a member makes a bad move, then the 'members' simply reject that the attack was from the group and can claim it was an individual act. It is only by the actions of individual members that anyone can be caught, and there is no real way to be sure that everyone has been caught, or that the movement would not resurrect itself.
Personally I am torn on the idea of hactavism. I think it a great idea to show that companies need to take proper precautions with personal information, and that corporations and governments should not infringe on the people's rights. But the way they do things often make things worse for the people, which makes me think they are in it simply as hackers who are desperately trying to justify their actions in order to attract nieve morons.

 

[amk-aka-Phantom]

The more of these criminal hackers that get prosecuted the better. It's just a matter of time as those in denial learn the hard way. See TPB for a reality lesson.

TPB? You mean, The Pirate Bay? Why, what's up with them? Up and running, and the "Legal Threats" section is hilarious.

 

[CaedenV]

[citation][nom]mightymaxio[/nom]Exactly, when did people start thinking its ok to force their opinions on someone else? In the united states we call that dictatorship which is what anonymous is trying to do by forcing people to believe in what they believe by DDOSing, disrupting sites, protesting, etc... What happens if they win? Will we become slaves to them then? Because this is what happens in any country where the people overthrow a government. I don't want anonymous deciding right and wrong for me, i want to make that decision myself and not have it enforced on me.[/citation]
The US did not become a dictatorship when they overthrew the Brittish. But then again it was not a small group of personalities who lead the rebellion. It was a wide-spread movement where nobody wanted absolute power, because they all wanted freedom. While most rebellions do not end this way, it is wrong to say that every single one does.

 

[dickcheney]

[citation][nom]mightymaxio[/nom]Exactly, when did people start thinking its ok to force their opinions on someone else? In the united states we call that dictatorship which is what anonymous is trying to do by forcing people to believe in what they believe by DDOSing, disrupting sites, protesting, etc... What happens if they win? Will we become slaves to them then? Because this is what happens in any country where the people overthrow a government. I don't want anonymous deciding right and wrong for me, i want to make that decision myself and not have it enforced on me.[/citation]

Since the populace is too dumb to take important decisions?

 

[nikorr]

[citation][nom]mightymaxio[/nom]Thats because anonymous are a bunch of script kiddies or mindless sheep that follow the herd where ever it may take them. Anonymous will get caught one of these days and everyone connected to it will be punished, I look forward to that day and not one of V for vendetta. Anonymous are crooks, nothing more complex than that.[/citation]
Agree, time is running out for them...

 

[nikorr]

They are overdue now!

 

[nikorr]

[citation][nom]amk-aka-phantom[/nom]These "script kiddies" caused quite a lot of mischief. If anything, I definitely respect their skills[/citation]
They are reversed way too much.

 

[amk-aka-Phantom]

They are reversed way too much.

Maybe, maybe not. All I said is that they can cause mischief, and that's always fun.

 

[goatsetung]

"Free educational opportunities" such as conferences and classes should probably be shut down.

 

[digiex]

internet accessible systems (such as web-based applications and windows systems) by employing tactics such as denial of service.

Let me emphasize that.

 

[captaincharisma]

[citation][nom]amk-aka-phantom[/nom]These "script kiddies" caused quite a lot of mischief. If anything, I definitely respect their skills[/citation]

yea but they could have just looked at the systems and found there was an easy way to get around the security. so yea there script kiddies

 

[acadia11]

[citation][nom]mightymaxio[/nom]Thats because anonymous are a bunch of script kiddies or mindless sheep that follow the herd where ever it may take them. Anonymous will get caught one of these days and everyone connected to it will be punished, I look forward to that day and not one of V for vendetta. Anonymous are crooks, nothing more complex than that.[/citation]

I'd have to disagree with your assessment. The reality is that Anonymous isn't seeking to do real damage. Bringing down a website, and say bringing down the Air Traffic control system, are two different things, and anonymous isn't into actually endangering peoples lives and such, just being a nuisance.

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]mightymaxio[/nom]Exactly, when did people start thinking its ok to force their opinions on someone else? In the united states we call that dictatorship which is what anonymous is trying to do by forcing people to believe in what they believe by DDOSing, disrupting sites, protesting, etc... What happens if they win? Will we become slaves to them then? Because this is what happens in any country where the people overthrow a government. I don't want anonymous deciding right and wrong for me, i want to make that decision myself and not have it enforced on me.[/citation]
So you're saying that any time someone makes a protest they're supporting a dictatorship?

 

[acadia11]

[citation][nom]killerclick[/nom]It's not that kind of organization, it's not even an organization.[/citation]

Exactly, Anonymous has no structure, simply put, it's a collective of individuals with hacking skillz that do XY and Z because someone posts hey let's attack XY and Z , hacker community, and then of course the hackers that do it, want to remain anonymous. It's just an idea to hide behind both literally and figuratively.

 

[acadia11]

[citation][nom]beenthere[/nom]The more of these criminal hackers that get prosecuted the better. It's just a matter of time as those in denial learn the hard way. See TPB for a reality lesson.[/citation]

I hope not. What real harm has anonymous done. They arne't robbing ATM's. They are putting porn on youtube.

 

[acadia11]

I think Anonymous is good, corporations are inherently far more evil.

 

[the associate]

[citation][nom]acadia11[/nom]I hope not. What real harm has anonymous done. They arne't robbing ATM's. They are putting porn on youtube.[/citation]

Oh, so you fell for the propaganda then?

 

[LuckyDucky7]

So why are we issuing reports against people who haven't done and don't desire to do any serious damage (unless it's to embarass the enemies of the Internet and free speech, etc.) when there are real bad guys out there?

You know, the kinds of 'bad' guys that want to (and do) stall progress and steal information from US companies?

You know, the people that everyone knows exist on the other side of the world (though I believe that the US also carries out its own hacking and espionage against them, so I don't believe the story that the hacking is one-sided)?

Are we issuing reports against, say, against the people (if the CIA doesn't already know this) who created the original SCADA virus, Stuxnet, if their intentions are hostile to the US? You know, the virus that ended up halting Iran's nuclear program for about 6 months because it got into the PLCs that run them?


I don't think that any reasonable person has anything to fear about Anonymous. It's the unreasonable people out there that have problems.
And besides- most companies that happen to upset/"strike against" Anon don't have any SCADA operations on their insecure networks that get broken into all the time (i.e. Sony).

So this report doesn't tell us anything we don't already know.