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U.S. Bill Will Allow Feds to Read Your E-mail Without Warrants

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All this will do is accelerate development of "underground" internet type hardware/software...

Politicians are only good at spending money, they should stay there...
 

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Please try to stay relevant Tom's....



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Leahy scuttles his warrantless e-mail surveillance bill

Leahy scuttles his warrantless e-mail surveillance bill

After public criticism of proposal that lets government agencies warrantlessly access Americans' e-mail, Sen. Patrick Leahy says he will "not support" such an idea at next week's vote.
 
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We should demand in return to have all of congress to have their private messages open to the public, all to see. Tit for tat.
 
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Good luck with that, some of us encrypt our stuff with so many VPNs and by other means its not worth their time to look at my stuff. Smarter than any government fresh out of college kid snooping around. Get real!
 
Anyway unless your a pirate or a terrorist: who cares about pointless chain letters, private discussion about family gathering and such. If you have something to hide and put it in email... I think you deserve to be caught.
 

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Things like this will only make everyone encrypt their personal emails ect and when 99% of everything is decrypted where are the "bad" messages in that mass? Wouldn't it simply be more productive to leave it as is and have a way easier time to find the encrypted messages that are likely to contain the bad stuff?

Politicians of today - Vote for things they know nothing about....
 

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Americans shouldn't be worried about zombies or alien invasions or imaginary weapons of mass destruction, what they should be worried about is their government. Rich, selfish and ruthless bunch of elected individuals that have no concern for your and your children's future and happiness.
 

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It's illegal to do such things with physical mail, what makes them this it's ok with digital mail. This bill should never have been proposed in the first place.
 

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[citation][nom]makaveli316[/nom]Poor american people...Hitler was a joke comparing to nowadays "leaders"... and it will only get worse.[/citation]

Do you have any idea how stupid you sound. This was a man that tried to take over the free world, he didn't perceive Jewish people as human beings. He was able to coerce the entire population of countries to believe that Jews were animals to be slaughtered. In one short sentence, you have managed to excuse, justify, diminish, and make allowances for one of the worst human beings in our modern history.

Shame on you.
 

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Google has an initiative on this matter, its google.com/takeaction
Its all educational on the subject and all that.
 

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If the bill passes, any bets on the increase in ID/password theft over the next decade?
An officer with that access can do what ever and flee the with country with the cash...
Or on the news...an officers usb key with personal emails was misplaced in a public place...
Officers laptop with millions of personal emails was stolen or hacked....

ps, if the bill passes, don't email anyone from the US...
 

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[citation][nom]cmcghee358[/nom]Do you have any idea how stupid you sound. This was a man that tried to take over the free world, he didn't perceive Jewish people as human beings. He was able to coerce the entire population of countries to believe that Jews were animals to be slaughtered. In one short sentence, you have managed to excuse, justify, diminish, and make allowances for one of the worst human beings in our modern history. Shame on you.[/citation]

Apparently your not aware that the US has over 900 bases in 130 countries...
 

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oh well, I guess China and Korea will simply engineer and mass produce new router and IP technology, that will run along side the existing internet, kicking it to the curb like what happened with AOL and Netscape. no worries, moving right along.
 

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Not sure if this is going to cause anti-social behavior. chicken or the egg scenario. people get angry because of things like this, which can lead to threats, which leads to being labeled a terrorists, which leads to job security for anti-terrorism and government funded spying... but they PROBABLY wouldn't do it if it wasn't for asshole terrorists in the first place...

Why would anyone think they are only reading e-mails and leaving cellphone memos and .txt pc files alone?
 

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Those would be a very shortsighted move that will backfire badly!

It will drive more and more people into using highly encrypted forms of communication (a la TrueCrypt) and then, even with a warrant, good luck in reading anything !
 

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[citation][nom]timw03878[/nom]Apparently your not aware that the US has over 900 bases in 130 countries...[/citation]

Yep, and no money in the bank as a result of it.
That's what happens if you spend more on military then the rest of the world combined.

Just imagine how many jobs that kind of money would create if used for example to fix domestic infra structures instead of another aircraft carrier we do not need.

 

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[citation][nom]tokencode[/nom]Please try to stay relevant Tom's.... CNET News Politics and Law Leahy scuttles his warrantless e-mail surveillance billLeahy scuttles his warrantless e-mail surveillance billAfter public criticism of proposal that lets government agencies warrantlessly access Americans' e-mail, Sen. Patrick Leahy says he will "not support" such an idea at next week's vote.[/citation]
The article is still relevant. Even in your own post you cite a source that says the vote is still taking place. Just because Leahy is no longer going to vote in favor of his own bill does not make it go away, the vote is still going to be held and this needs to be brought to the public's attention.
 

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[citation][nom]dextermat[/nom]Anyway unless your a pirate or a terrorist: who cares about pointless chain letters, private discussion about family gathering and such. If you have something to hide and put it in email... I think you deserve to be caught.[/citation]
Eventhough almost all messages people send aren't criminal in any way they may contain personal or business related data that isn't meant for anyone to read but the sender and receiver. I wonder if they're also going to spy the emails of large coorporations!
 

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[citation][nom]freggo[/nom]Yep, and no money in the bank as a result of it.That's what happens if you spend more on military then the rest of the world combined.Just imagine how many jobs that kind of money would create if used for example to fix domestic infra structures instead of another aircraft carrier we do not need.[/citation]
We don't need it? So Iran isn't trying to develop a nuclear weapon? The world isn't a crazy and dangerous place?

Let's also remember, the Constitution DEMANDS that the federal government provide defense. Infrastructure is a state responsibility, defense is a federal one.
 
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