News U.S. enacts law to exempt select fabs from environmental reviews

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U.S. government streamlines fab projects by easing fab permits

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[-Fran-]

This smells stupid, but not without a smidget of merit. The red tape some environmental agencies use as a method of (almost) extorsion is not unheard of. Middle ground if better than full exemption.

What chemicals and other potentially dangerous waste do these fellas produce?

Regards.

 

[DS426]

This smells stupid, but not without a smidget of merit. The red tape some environmental agencies use as a method of (almost) extorsion is not unheard of. Middle ground if better than full exemption.

What chemicals and other potentially dangerous waste do these fellas produce?

Regards.

Yeah, I'm thinking the same; there's enough red tape and government bureaucracy to slow down what already takes years of planning, permitting, construction, testing, and ramping up equipment for these vital projects. Moreover, I expect that federal executive agencies are executing the law, not creating it.

At the same time, I don't like seeing a lot of carve-outs as that tends to screw the little guys.

 

[umeng2002_2]

No one wants poisonous chemicals spilled everywhere, but Federal regulators go way too far a lot of the time. SpaceX launches are held up by quail eggs or burned frogs or some nonsense like that.

 

[USAFRet]

When relaxing environmental regulations, be careful what you wish for.

The Cuyahoga River Caught Fire at Least a Dozen Times, but No One Cared Until 1969

Despite being much smaller than previous fires, the river blaze in Cleveland 50 years ago became a symbol for the nascent environmental movement

www.smithsonianmag.com

 

[AkroZ]

In 70's China have some environmental laws, they invited notably japanese semi-conductor companies to build factories.
Some of thoses companies paid the local government to have more "lax" inspections.
A village and their lake becomes bio-hazard with deaths, the village has been evacuated and cost to contain the pollution have been heavy.

Surely a desktop worker on commerce who approved an economic project is fully competent to known if a factory will pollute or not the environment.

 

[thestryker]

This smells stupid, but not without a smidget of merit. The red tape some environmental agencies use as a method of (almost) extorsion is not unheard of. Middle ground if better than full exemption.

What chemicals and other potentially dangerous waste do these fellas produce?

Regards.

If there's a positive it's that construction has to have started by the end of this year so it's fairly targeted at Chips Act recipients.

I'm not sure about what sort of chemical waste they produce, but the manufacturing process is chemical heavy. I know they try to maximize reuse (probably primarily for monetary reasons), but it's still got to have a fair amount of storage/disposal. Hopefully with the narrow timeframe it'll minimize the negative outcomes because the potential seems endless.

GN did a fairly in depth interesting documentary piece revolving around Intel's Arizona fabs which go into manufacturing a bit:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUIh0fOUcrQ

 

[caseym54]

Biden can enact laws now? I thought that Congress had some say in that.

 

[USAFRet]

Biden can enact laws now? I thought that Congress had some say in that.

Without getting political, Congress and Senate enact it, the President signs it.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/2228/text

 

[JTWrenn]

We need to stop picking and choosing who we check and instead revamp the regulatory system to be actually functional. Right now it is either non existent or just their to exact pay off which also makes it non existent for the rich.

Regulations are important because greed causes corruption, but if the system doesn't work then it is just a tool of the rich to push down competition. This just sounds like the equivalent of turning off all your security when you can't get a program to run rather than getting it to all work properly.

 

[JTWrenn]

Biden can enact laws now? I thought that Congress had some say in that.

If you click the link under "enacted a law" it takes you to the bill that went through congress. That said, I do believe you are technically correct that Presidents do not enact laws by themselves.

 

[Notton]

Having seen US environmental regulation at work, it is ridiculously and needlessly complicated.
Instead of having 1 entity at the Federal level, you instead get 3, one at Federal level, one at State, and maybe the local municipality.

All with differing vested interests.
Like, c'mon man.

 

[tamalero]

When relaxing environmental regulations, be careful what you wish for.

The Cuyahoga River Caught Fire at Least a Dozen Times, but No One Cared Until 1969

Despite being much smaller than previous fires, the river blaze in Cleveland 50 years ago became a symbol for the nascent environmental movement

www.smithsonianmag.com

Can't wait for the new season of "The Love Canal"

 

[tamalero]

Having seen US environmental regulation at work, it is ridiculously and needlessly complicated.
Instead of having 1 entity at the Federal level, you instead get 3, one at Federal level, one at State, and maybe the local municipality.

All with differing vested interests.
Like, c'mon man.

Aren't that by design because states conveniently are "lulz, dont mess with state regulations" when federal agencies want to put some order?

 

[jkflipflop98]

Surprisingly, these places don't really output a lot of chemicals. Yes, we use pretty much every mixture, solution, and precipitate you could ever think of - but when they're used up and no longer viable you usually put them through another reaction to break down whatever it is into a harmless form.

There are a small amount of substances that you simply cant break down any further. Those are usually sealed off in a giant heavy-duty drum and hauled away to some disposal site elsewhere.