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He is a thief! Communicating to him will cause your items to disappear.
After you will kill him, you will find them inside the body :)

So, avoid dealing with him.

--
Max
 
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"Moscow Dragon" <maxim__s@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
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> He is a thief! Communicating to him will cause your items to disappear.
> After you will kill him, you will find them inside the body :)
>
> So, avoid dealing with him.

That's good to know. I'm just about to explore Vesper but will probably not
heed your advice ;-)
Want to get Dupre and Tseramed up a level before i head to Fire Isle and
should get enough experience here.
 
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> Want to get Dupre and Tseramed up a level before i head to Fire Isle and
> should get enough experience here.

I would postpone the Fire Isle to just before the non-return point on the
Isle Of The Avatar. The reason is to try to play the original non-FoV U7 as
it was conceived :)

Same on Silver Seed. Postpone till the Balance Shrine (it's non-return,
though JPMorris found the backdoors to return from it).

--
Max
 
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Moscow Dragon wrote:
>>Want to get Dupre and Tseramed up a level before i head to Fire Isle and
>>should get enough experience here.
>
>
> I would postpone the Fire Isle to just before the non-return point on the
> Isle Of The Avatar. The reason is to try to play the original non-FoV U7 as
> it was conceived :)

What non-return point? I've frequently died in the IotA and always
managed to get back inside. Although I usually set up a Mark-Recall
link on the shore.
But if losing the ship/carpet is what you meant, you have the same
problem anyway with the Tetrahedron generators etc..

> Same on Silver Seed. Postpone till the Balance Shrine (it's non-return,
> though JPMorris found the backdoors to return from it).
>

It's nice to be appreciated 😉
 
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"Moscow Dragon" <maxim__s@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
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> He is a thief! Communicating to him will cause your items to disappear.
> After you will kill him, you will find them inside the body :)
>
> So, avoid dealing with him.

I haven't had any problems with him and haven't had to kill him. I did have
to kill the 2 gargoyles in the pub however. Did you tell Blorn you were a
friend of the gargoyles? That didn't seem like a good idea to me considering
what the others said about him before i met him so i said 'No'.
 
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With a deafening roar and a whoosh of spray, JP Morris swings about and
addresses the awaiting newsgroup...

> Moscow Dragon wrote:
>>>Want to get Dupre and Tseramed up a level before i head to Fire Isle
>>>and should get enough experience here.
>>
>>
>> I would postpone the Fire Isle to just before the non-return point on
>> the Isle Of The Avatar. The reason is to try to play the original
>> non-FoV U7 as it was conceived :)
>
> What non-return point? I've frequently died in the IotA and always
> managed to get back inside. Although I usually set up a Mark-Recall
> link on the shore.
> But if losing the ship/carpet is what you meant, you have the same
> problem anyway with the Tetrahedron generators etc..

The final non-return point for that game is when you step into the
teleporter to go to the Black Gate Chamber. Supposedly anyway.
Funnily enough, IIRC when you get yourself killed in there, you wind up
back at Paws, having been delivered by the noble and kind Elizabeth and
Abraham... *grins*
--
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-==(UDIC)==- u++ uC++ uF uG+ uLB- uA+ nC+ nR nH+ nP+ nI nPT nS++ nT+ y
The Other Codex http://www.ultimainfo.net/Codex/

Danger Will Robinson! One of your nodes is about to fall off!
Ultima VII endgame.exe file
 
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Words to the wise, Paulon <spampaulon@ultimainfo.net> wrote:


>The final non-return point for that game is when you step into the
>teleporter to go to the Black Gate Chamber. Supposedly anyway.
>Funnily enough, IIRC when you get yourself killed in there, you wind up
>back at Paws, having been delivered by the noble and kind Elizabeth and
>Abraham... *grins*

Yes, but how could you be killed there? By whom? Batlin perhaps ...

Batlin can be killed in that room, if I am not mistaken.
 
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Claus Dragon wrote:
> Words to the wise, Paulon <spampaulon@ultimainfo.net> wrote:
>
>>The final non-return point for that game is when you step into the
>>teleporter to go to the Black Gate Chamber. Supposedly anyway.
>>Funnily enough, IIRC when you get yourself killed in there, you wind up
>>back at Paws, having been delivered by the noble and kind Elizabeth and
>>Abraham... *grins*
>
> Yes, but how could you be killed there? By whom? Batlin perhaps ...

Last time I went there (November, I think) it all went horribly wrong,
despite my attempts to train eveyone up for it.
All my followers were slain and the Avatar got beaten into a coma.
I think they managed to kill one of E or A before the Avatar himself
was 'turned to fishbait' as I believe Hook put it. It's not that hard.

Some years ago I did this deliberately, killing off E&A but leaving
Hook alive. Then I allowed Batlin to kill me, and woke up having
been delivered to Paws by (the late) Elizabeth and Abraham.
I believe this is on my website.

> Batlin can be killed in that room, if I am not mistaken.

I've not done that. I guess it's possible.. I'll have to try it.
Armageddon works on him, because this Batlin is just a copy.
If you killed the original and brought him with you (you need to
have completed the FoV to be able to Death-Bolt Batlin), you'll see
this prov'd.
 
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With a deafening roar and a whoosh of spray, Claus Dragon swings about and
addresses the awaiting newsgroup...

> Words to the wise, Paulon <spampaulon@ultimainfo.net> wrote:
>
>
>>The final non-return point for that game is when you step into the
>>teleporter to go to the Black Gate Chamber. Supposedly anyway.
>>Funnily enough, IIRC when you get yourself killed in there, you wind up
>>back at Paws, having been delivered by the noble and kind Elizabeth and
>>Abraham... *grins*
>
> Yes, but how could you be killed there? By whom? Batlin perhaps ...

Batlin, Forskis, Hook, Elizabeth, Abraham, all out to murder the Avatar and
party. Which makes it SO ironic when they bring you back to Paws...

> Batlin can be killed in that room, if I am not mistaken.

I seem to recall hearing that. Dunno if it's true or not. It'd be a DtE
style bug if he could. 🙂

--
Paulon Dragon d++ e++ N T+ Om+ UK!1!2!3!4!5!6!7!'!S!'!8!9!A!L!M!W!
-==(UDIC)==- u++ uC++ uF uG+ uLB- uA+ nC+ nR nH+ nP+ nI nPT nS++ nT+ y
The Other Codex http://www.ultimainfo.net/Codex/

Danger Will Robinson! One of your nodes is about to fall off!
Ultima VII endgame.exe file
 
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No, he started to steal from me after I extorted the Lap-Lem's amulet
from him.

"The Stare" <wat1@not.likely.frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:35q73mF4p3j51U1@individual.net...
>
> "Moscow Dragon" <maxim__s@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
> news:ct64gv$qoe$1@gavrilo.mtu.ru...
> > He is a thief! Communicating to him will cause your items to
disappear.
> > After you will kill him, you will find them inside the body :)
> >
> > So, avoid dealing with him.
>
> I haven't had any problems with him and haven't had to kill him. I did
have
> to kill the 2 gargoyles in the pub however. Did you tell Blorn you were a
> friend of the gargoyles? That didn't seem like a good idea to me
considering
> what the others said about him before i met him so i said 'No'.
>
>
 
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I got no further interaction from him after that.

"Moscow Dragon" <maxim__s@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
news:ctb4pm$irr$1@gavrilo.mtu.ru...
> No, he started to steal from me after I extorted the Lap-Lem's amulet
> from him.
>
> "The Stare" <wat1@not.likely.frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> news:35q73mF4p3j51U1@individual.net...
>>
>> "Moscow Dragon" <maxim__s@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
>> news:ct64gv$qoe$1@gavrilo.mtu.ru...
>> > He is a thief! Communicating to him will cause your items to
> disappear.
>> > After you will kill him, you will find them inside the body :)
>> >
>> > So, avoid dealing with him.
>>
>> I haven't had any problems with him and haven't had to kill him. I did
> have
>> to kill the 2 gargoyles in the pub however. Did you tell Blorn you were a
>> friend of the gargoyles? That didn't seem like a good idea to me
> considering
>> what the others said about him before i met him so i said 'No'.
>>
>>
>
>
 
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Words to the wise, Paulon <spampaulon@ultimainfo.net> wrote:

>> Yes, but how could you be killed there? By whom? Batlin perhaps ...
>
>Batlin, Forskis, Hook, Elizabeth, Abraham, all out to murder the Avatar and
>party. Which makes it SO ironic when they bring you back to Paws...

I know the names. They just never were any trouble unless Batlin let
go a kill spell by sheer luck.

>> Batlin can be killed in that room, if I am not mistaken.
>
>I seem to recall hearing that. Dunno if it's true or not. It'd be a DtE
>style bug if he could. 🙂

Sleep Potion on Batlin and then a Kill spell works, if I am not
mistaken.
 
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Just sit on chair in the bar if he is also in the same bar. In several
seconds, your Avatar will miss his/her armor.

"The Stare" <wat1@not.likely.frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:35sk3oF4qrg00U1@individual.net...
> I got no further interaction from him after that.
>
> "Moscow Dragon" <maxim__s@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
> news:ctb4pm$irr$1@gavrilo.mtu.ru...
> > No, he started to steal from me after I extorted the Lap-Lem's amulet
> > from him.
> >
> > "The Stare" <wat1@not.likely.frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> > news:35q73mF4p3j51U1@individual.net...
> >>
> >> "Moscow Dragon" <maxim__s@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
> >> news:ct64gv$qoe$1@gavrilo.mtu.ru...
> >> > He is a thief! Communicating to him will cause your items to
> > disappear.
> >> > After you will kill him, you will find them inside the body :)
> >> >
> >> > So, avoid dealing with him.
> >>
> >> I haven't had any problems with him and haven't had to kill him. I did
> > have
> >> to kill the 2 gargoyles in the pub however. Did you tell Blorn you were
a
> >> friend of the gargoyles? That didn't seem like a good idea to me
> > considering
> >> what the others said about him before i met him so i said 'No'.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 
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"Moscow Dragon" <maxim__s@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
news:ct6p70$17mh$1@gavrilo.mtu.ru...
>> Want to get Dupre and Tseramed up a level before i head to Fire Isle and
>> should get enough experience here.
>
> I would postpone the Fire Isle to just before the non-return point on the
> Isle Of The Avatar. The reason is to try to play the original non-FoV U7
> as
> it was conceived :)
>
> Same on Silver Seed. Postpone till the Balance Shrine (it's non-return,
> though JPMorris found the backdoors to return from it).

....personally, I/we think that the keyring may be worth it. *random
key-trying-related muttering*

--
The Triad
User of 'Thingamajig!'
Refractor Dragon -=(UDIC)=-
 
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