DRM is really a bad idea, it will do more negative than positive. The only way of Overcoming this issue is to Show people how not buying the game will impact the quality of upcoming games and hurt video game industry revenue,even Hackers tells you that if you like the game,support its creators,Write This on Every Box, Ads, Tv Ads... There will be more games imported from consoles without added graphics or features. Also adding pc only Feature will attract more people, I got myself Bad Company 2(Best game ever purchased,Better Graphics than Crysis,Dolby Digital Effects are crazy!) because it was DX11 and PC version is better than consoles. Shame on Ubisoft for only importing the game with DX9, two generation old graphics. There will be always drug dealers, Drug ads about side effects always let people stay away from them ;-)
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[citation][nom]TommySch[/nom]I said it yesterday!!!DDoS them out of business.[/citation]
I can't imagine a more ignorant response. Unless you are just a complete moron, you couldn't have possibly put any thought into that response. You're saying to put a company out of business for making games that people like and trying to protect their investment. The level of stupidity there is astounding.
On top of that the DDoS attack only serves to make the hackers look weak in their position. The only way they could prove their point is by forcing the servers to fail. That's like trying to prove someone is handicapped by taking a hammer to their knee. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It proves nothing.
I can't imagine a more ignorant response. Unless you are just a complete moron, you couldn't have possibly put any thought into that response. You're saying to put a company out of business for making games that people like and trying to protect their investment. The level of stupidity there is astounding.
On top of that the DDoS attack only serves to make the hackers look weak in their position. The only way they could prove their point is by forcing the servers to fail. That's like trying to prove someone is handicapped by taking a hammer to their knee. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It proves nothing.
I'd really be amused if this method of DRM actually works,its the most drastic ive seen in awhile at least.Still, the DRM this game uses isnt what gets to me, its the fact like Modern Warfare 2 its a standard edition PC game that costs $60,thats crap i wont stand for,hence ive turned my mind and wallet from both of those games.
[citation][nom]stradric[/nom]I can't imagine a more ignorant response. Unless you are just a complete moron, you couldn't have possibly put any thought into that response. You're saying to put a company out of business for making games that people like and trying to protect their investment. The level of stupidity there is astounding.On top of that the DDoS attack only serves to make the hackers look weak in their position. The only way they could prove their point is by forcing the servers to fail. That's like trying to prove someone is handicapped by taking a hammer to their knee. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It proves nothing.[/citation]
If they go bankrupt, it will serve as an example for other distributors.
Money is the only thing they understand. If we can coerce them into thinking: DRM = fail
We win!
If they go bankrupt, it will serve as an example for other distributors.
Money is the only thing they understand. If we can coerce them into thinking: DRM = fail
We win!
It's already cracked - leaving the Ubi's income (the customers, might as well explain since UBI don't seem to think they have any - only pirates and thieves - why else implement such insane drm) is the only party hurting while the pirates play it without any issues at all.
Is this how drm should be implemented ? Imagine if your car would be forced to stay in touch with a provider or it would stop straight off, while the pirated cars would run freely without any hassle... wich car would you choose ? Its insanity to think thoose kind of DRM is actualy helping the company in the long run - it only promotes piracy and also make the opinions more friendly towards piracy. A total loss loss situation for everyone including the customers who actually paid for a product and should have it way easier than the pirates not the other way around!
Is this how drm should be implemented ? Imagine if your car would be forced to stay in touch with a provider or it would stop straight off, while the pirated cars would run freely without any hassle... wich car would you choose ? Its insanity to think thoose kind of DRM is actualy helping the company in the long run - it only promotes piracy and also make the opinions more friendly towards piracy. A total loss loss situation for everyone including the customers who actually paid for a product and should have it way easier than the pirates not the other way around!
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[citation][nom]TommySch[/nom]If they go bankrupt, it will serve as an example for other distributors.Money is the only thing they understand. If we can coerce them into thinking: DRM = failWe win![/citation]
You haven't thought it through if you consider that happening a win. Entertaining the thought that it would even be possible to bankrupt a company like Ubisoft through DDoS attacks, you forget that people actually like Ubisoft games. So say goodbye to Splinter Cell, AssCreed, Prince of Persia and Tom Clancy games. You forget that the company is actually made up of human beings -- talented professionals. How you consider a group of maladjusted, crybaby hackers putting talented professionals out of work a "win" is warped. There is no defense for the attack in this case. Simply not buying the game and vocalizing one's disgust at the DRM would have been enough.
And if it was possible to bankrupt a company through DDoS attacks, we'd be in a much more serious situation than whining about video game DRM. But that's beside the point. The free market already provides a method to support a product or not: your wallet. Hacking servers and pirating the game only makes things worse for everyone.
You haven't thought it through if you consider that happening a win. Entertaining the thought that it would even be possible to bankrupt a company like Ubisoft through DDoS attacks, you forget that people actually like Ubisoft games. So say goodbye to Splinter Cell, AssCreed, Prince of Persia and Tom Clancy games. You forget that the company is actually made up of human beings -- talented professionals. How you consider a group of maladjusted, crybaby hackers putting talented professionals out of work a "win" is warped. There is no defense for the attack in this case. Simply not buying the game and vocalizing one's disgust at the DRM would have been enough.
And if it was possible to bankrupt a company through DDoS attacks, we'd be in a much more serious situation than whining about video game DRM. But that's beside the point. The free market already provides a method to support a product or not: your wallet. Hacking servers and pirating the game only makes things worse for everyone.
I guess UbiSoft's hack resistance is working VERY WELL if people are trying that hard to shut down their servers. Good for Ubisoft!!! Finally we might have a viable way to prevent those that are turning PC gaming into a wasteland -- you thieves and posers.
Since it's holding up well, you can bet other companies will follow -- love it!! Finally put these hackers to rest so the gaming industry has a future.
Gotta chuckle at the lame responses from the usual "want something for nothing crowd" -- trust me when I say you anti-DRM dweebs are NOT of any concern to gaming companies -- I mean, it's not like you pay for your games anyway, so you voice is pretty meaningless. But by all means, keep squawking away, just exposes your stupidity that much more.
Since it's holding up well, you can bet other companies will follow -- love it!! Finally put these hackers to rest so the gaming industry has a future.
Gotta chuckle at the lame responses from the usual "want something for nothing crowd" -- trust me when I say you anti-DRM dweebs are NOT of any concern to gaming companies -- I mean, it's not like you pay for your games anyway, so you voice is pretty meaningless. But by all means, keep squawking away, just exposes your stupidity that much more.
I beg to differ, i got enough salary to purchase all the titles i like but i don't like to see the experience from the money spent turn to a sour taste in my mouth due to overly drm'd titles.
A fair disc check or goo or the like of drm is fair but when you need a active internet connection in order to play single-player games it have gone to far. Judging the response i'm not the only one - BY FAR!
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I am anti-DRM and anti-piracy because with or without it a game will still be pirated, and although DRM does not pose a problem for the majority of people it does for some, and that is unacceptable. Ubisoft's DRM has at least successfully fulfilled its purpose, whether or not it soon gets cracked. DRM exists only to prevent piracy at the initial release, not to prevent it full stop. Ubisoft has won this round whether the pirates like it or not.
Piracy as a whole has nothing to do with DRM, it has nothing to do with price, nothing to do with quality of the game and nothing to do with sticking it to big greedy corporations. Cheap Indie games like World of Goo also get pirated (WoG copies are reportedly 90% pirated).
Piracy is done by people who simply don't want to pay anything. They pirate because they can. But few will admit that. Kudos to those that don't try to hide behind false excuses.
Piracy as a whole has nothing to do with DRM, it has nothing to do with price, nothing to do with quality of the game and nothing to do with sticking it to big greedy corporations. Cheap Indie games like World of Goo also get pirated (WoG copies are reportedly 90% pirated).
Piracy is done by people who simply don't want to pay anything. They pirate because they can. But few will admit that. Kudos to those that don't try to hide behind false excuses.
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It is good that they are doing the DOS attack
most people who buy games, do not know about DRM. When they finally do learn about it the hard way (when they spend a arm and a leg on the game and the company closes down the DRM servers for it after sales of the game drop off and this, it is no longer profitable to have the game servers up, it will be too late to do anything about the DRM)
doing a DOS now will allow people to experience how the game will be later on when the DRM servers are no longer up. and thus a larger portion of the customers will learn about the DRM one way or another and this will greatly effect the companies sales on future games. this will in tern discourage the use of DRM like this
PS console games are also starting to have DRM servers and it is a major problem.
most people who buy games, do not know about DRM. When they finally do learn about it the hard way (when they spend a arm and a leg on the game and the company closes down the DRM servers for it after sales of the game drop off and this, it is no longer profitable to have the game servers up, it will be too late to do anything about the DRM)
doing a DOS now will allow people to experience how the game will be later on when the DRM servers are no longer up. and thus a larger portion of the customers will learn about the DRM one way or another and this will greatly effect the companies sales on future games. this will in tern discourage the use of DRM like this
PS console games are also starting to have DRM servers and it is a major problem.
It's always nice to know that pirates can play their version without any problems and those of us who have the retail copy do the suffering. 
I find this rather amusing, pc gamming industry is a growing business. They are not bankrupt by piracy, this is just a way to increase profits on the deteriment of costumers. Any attack on this kind of policy is valid. Who is to say that there where only 5 % affected? If i was a company i would sugarcoat those numbers too. And yes if the game won´t work people won´t buy it, if people don´t buy it they are hurt, so that it becomes umprofitable to use such tecnology, in fact that has hapened in other cases. Also, if you don´t want piracy lower your prices, most of the money don´t go into development of the game, instead it´s used to generate pure profit, their margins are huge.
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