Undercoating and Priming

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Hi

I notice that in the painting guides on the Wargame Foundry site
(available at http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/paintguide/index.asp) that
they undercoat each figure with black paint rather than using primer.
What are the advantages/disadvantages of using normal paint as an
undercoat rather than primer? (I'm not concerned by the black versus
white question).

Also, does anyone have any experience with the Wargame Foundry lines of
paint. Are they recommended or other lines?

Mark

 

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No they also say you can use matt car spray primer. Which is what I do.

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Justin Taylor wrote:
> No they also say you can use matt car spray primer. Which is what I do.
>
Ah! I didn't notice that the guides build on each other. As you say, my
question is dealt with in an earlier guide. Thanks for pointing this out.

Mark.

 

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As far as I know, primer is basically regular paint, usually gray in
color. I believe the word "primer" may mean simply "an undercoating"
rather than a particular kind of paint.

Then again, a paint sold for priming (undercoating) purposes would be
better if it has very strong sticking capabilities, even though this may
be at the expense of nice sharp coloring.

The problem is, there is no standard or law requiring a paint called "a
primer" to have any more special holding ability than regular paint,
although it is better if it does.


Mark wrote:
> Hi
>
> I notice that in the painting guides on the Wargame Foundry site
> (available at http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/paintguide/index.asp) that
> they undercoat each figure with black paint rather than using primer.
> What are the advantages/disadvantages of using normal paint as an
> undercoat rather than primer? (I'm not concerned by the black versus
> white question).
>
> Also, does anyone have any experience with the Wargame Foundry lines of
> paint. Are they recommended or other lines?
>
> Mark

 

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Castle Works Co. startled all and sundry by ejaculating the following words
of wisdom

> As far as I know, primer is basically regular paint, usually gray in
> color. I believe the word "primer" may mean simply "an undercoating"
> rather than a particular kind of paint.

Nope. A proper primer gives more "tooth" which helps the paint stick
better. I use Tamiya Fine Grey Primer which is excellent.

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Robert Singers <rsingers@finger.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9553D59278FCBrsingers@IP-Hidden>...
> Castle Works Co. startled all and sundry by ejaculating the following words
> of wisdom
>
> > As far as I know, primer is basically regular paint, usually gray in
> > color. I believe the word "primer" may mean simply "an undercoating"
> > rather than a particular kind of paint.
>
> Nope. A proper primer gives more "tooth" which helps the paint stick
> better. I use Tamiya Fine Grey Primer which is excellent.

Interesting. I have Testors Spray Enamel #1258 Flat White and #1249
Flat Black. Can I use these as primers?

 

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You can use anything as a primer, but you do take a chance of lead rot with any
solvent based paint. With the improvement over the years of "lead" its pretty
much gone. Years ago when I started in the hobby it was an everyday worry. Now
the so called lead is a lot different. But remember Enamels are all solvent
based paints. But with a spray you get very little of the solvent, mostly
pigment actually hits the figure.
Another thing I might mention, a lot of people use dyes to paint their
figures over a base coat of paint. ALL dyes are considered fugitive. That means
the will fade in color over time. Sunlight will fade them faster than any other
light. But any light will fade the dyes. It may take a long while if your
figures are cover when not useing them, but it does happen.
I should right a book on paint and color.
R.

 

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Out from under a rock popped DDetmer89 and said

> You can use anything as a primer,

No, you can use anything as an undercoat. A primer is different from
paint.

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Out from under a rock? Primer is a pint product, it is either a solvent based
or water based paint. The pigment is different but the carrier is still water
based or solvent based. ANYTHING can be used as a primer, that dosn't mean that
its good. As I said before, in a lot of cases a primer isn't really needed. If
your using water based paint, the primer just becomes an extra coat of paint.
R.

 

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DDetmer89 startled all and sundry by ejaculating the following words of
wisdom

> Out from under a rock? Primer is a pint product, it is either a
> solvent based or water based paint. The pigment is different but the
> carrier is still water based or solvent based. ANYTHING can be used as
> a primer, that dosn't mean that its good.

You do realise that you contradict yourself about this point. Specifically
in what you say here and in <20040828085516.10759.00001735@mb-m13.aol.com>.
You might like to think through what you're actually saying, before
committing it to print.

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