Updated build. Suggestions?

Alfred09

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So to start off the two 1070's are for later when 4k is a little more obtainable. I don't want a k series processor for this build. The cooler is very unrated, and outperforms the 212 (easily). I don't need much storage. I play a few large games, and then when I move on I uninstall. I will not change the case. I am all about silence. I want 1440p, wouldn't mind an ultra widescreen if it's not too expensive, but I can't seem to find one.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hWmgXH

 
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1. We'll have to wait and see whether two 1070s is enough to drive 4k consistently above 60 fps in today's and soon to be released games. But I would avoid 4k at least until we see 144 Hz screens with support for Display Port 1.4

2. Mush of the rest of the build is not what I'd pair with two 1070s

3. The PSU is too small for twin 1070s. Two 970s require 750 tho I'd use a 850 watter if heavily overclocking.

4. Most of users choose 144 Hz monitors

5. The cooler is a decent "little cooler" but a mid tower case does not require such a limitation.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/C7/9.html

However, the C7 is a great option if you need a cooler that is gonna fit where nothing else can

With no case...
Overall, this is a solid build. Not knowing the specs yet for the GTX Pascal gpu's, I'm worried that 650w is not enough to run two 1070's in SLI.

Two 970's make it into that requirement, but I've seen reports that the voltage requirement for Pascal can move up 50w per card over what the Maxwell cards required.

If I were you,I'd look at the same psu, but in a 750 or 850w version.
 
I firmly believe that a quality case and PSU are the backbones of a great build. They are the two main things that can help "future proof" a system. A good case that can fit most of the form factors, and has good air movement is one that you can keep until you get tired of looking at it, or until you really need to upgrade the front panel USBs. A solid PSu that provides great voltage regulation and can run future SLI, is worth keeping for a long time as well.

Have fun with this rig!
 
Heres what i would do
case i understand you want it silent but i had r4 and now phanteks case i cant tell the difference both dead silent its more about the fan noise not the case
sli 1070 makes no sense always get single most powerful card you can afford hence single gtx 1080
made adjustments to some better prices such as same ram for cheaper
Also peripherals i would keep the cost down until you have your full computer
Also if you are a college student in usa you can get free windows at dreamspark.com

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($37.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($49.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($85.79 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($82.93 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Acer K272HULbmiidp 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($329.00 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Other: GTX 1080 ($599.99)
Total: $1746.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-24 16:08 EDT-0400
 
1. We'll have to wait and see whether two 1070s is enough to drive 4k consistently above 60 fps in today's and soon to be released games. But I would avoid 4k at least until we see 144 Hz screens with support for Display Port 1.4

2. Mush of the rest of the build is not what I'd pair with two 1070s

3. The PSU is too small for twin 1070s. Two 970s require 750 tho I'd use a 850 watter if heavily overclocking.

4. Most of users choose 144 Hz monitors

5. The cooler is a decent "little cooler" but a mid tower case does not require such a limitation.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/C7/9.html

However, the C7 is a great option if you need a cooler that is gonna fit where nothing else can

With no case restriction, I would choose a more capable cooler. And No, it does NOT outperform event he Hyper 212

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6. Your 250 GB SSD has only 232 GB or actual space. With Windows taking up 80 GB of that within 6 months. That leaves you room for about 2 games. Everything else will crawl by comparison.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5748/seagate-desktop-2tb-sshd-st2000dx001-review/index9.html

A situation like this left most power users using an SSD for their operating system, while still running a secondary mechanical drive for storage and games. A typical setup such as this would allow the OS to load very quickly, while leaving you stunned at how long it took to load a game. With the introduction of the Desktop SSHD, Seagate has again switched up the game, offering a substantial performance boost to those of you in this situation.

Now, if you are one that chooses to use a single drive for your operating system, and have held onto your standard desktop HDD for the benefit of capacity, the Desktop SSHD is calling your name. The 8GB of NAND cache in conjunction with Seagate's application optimized algorithms should offer a tremendous performance boost, and again the more you use, it the faster the drive will get, as it learns how you use your system.

In every case seen here today, the Seagate Desktop SSHD excels, whether it be a synthetic point and click benchmark like HD Tune or ATTO, or even application traces via PCMark 8, the drive just performs.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dx001

 
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I would recommend a single 1080 over SLI 1070s. SLI isn't guaranteed better performance in every game, a better single card pretty much is.

If you are getting a z170 mobo and an aftermarket cooler anyway, might as well get an unlocked i5-6600k.
 
No it is not guaranteed to have better performance.... you will find some games for example that already get 80 fps with a single card as it makes no sense to develop an SLI profile for that game... what you do get is a huge performance boost in games where it does matter. Gains over 100% have been realized (Far Cry 4 - 3840 x 2160 Ultta)

http://us.hardware.info/reviews/6292/6/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-sli--3-way-sli--4-way-sli-review-ultra-hd-in-ultra-quality-benchmarks-far-cry-4

This is how much faster two 970s are at 2560 x 1600 in the following games

Thief 67.82%
Far Cry 3 67.80%
Tomb Raider 67.71%
Battlefield 3 66.07%
Bioshock Infinite 63.52%
Crysis 3 61.57%
Splinter Cell: Blacklist 61.47%
Battlefield 4 56.69%
Batman: Arkham Origins 56.11%
Watch Dogs 49.04%
Grid 2 48.48%
Assassins Creed 43.06%
Crysis 42.31%
Metro LL 40.23%

By comparison I don't much care that ....

-WoW: Mists of Pandaria is only 38.40% faster w/ two 970s than a 980 as they cost me the same
Diablo III: Reaper of Souls is only 20.66% faster w/ two 970s than a 980 as they cost me the same
Wolfenstein: New Order is actually 9.06% slower than a 980 because I am already getting 56 fps w/ SLI disabled and it has a 60 fps cap !

-Id much rather play Tomb Raider at 58 fps w/ twin 970s than the 980s 35 fps ...
-Id much rather play Far Cry 3 at 69 fps than the 980's 41 fps ...
-Id much rather play Crysis 3 at 43.3 fps than the 980s 27 fps ..,

.... and play all those others 40-67% faster than a 980 even if it means playing Wolfenstein at 4 fps below the game engine's 60 fps cap.

It's not that games don't exist for which SLI brings nothing to the table, it's just that:

a) the ones that don't, performance is already at a point where it doesn't matter
b) the game is obscure and not very popular.

All AAA games will certainly have an SLI profile and one that produces significant scaling



 
I shouldn't have a problem with the 6600 in years to come, right? And would you suggest a ultra widescreen monitor? Like are they really that great?

Thanks for the help by the way.
 


I never install non K processors.... even when the user isn't planning on overclocking because they are not comfy (today), it closes out that option forever. I'd spend the $35 now and keep the option open ... just 1.7% of build cost.

I had an opportunity to compare wide screen 3440 x 2560 w/ twin 980 Tis versus twin 970s w/ 1440p 144 Hz IPS and the latter delivered the more satisfying experience. The extra pixels offset the difference between the cards such that fps was better. The wide screen was kinda cool from an immersion standpoint but the image clarity, colors and fluidity was better on the 1440p IPS (3 ms lag time)

Other than putting in the SSHD instead of the HD and getting a PSU capable of pushing two cards, if there's one thing I'd change it would be the 60 hz monitor. You have way to much PC for a $250 monitor, spending $800 on twin GFX cards is a waster at 60Hz, where you cant take advantage of ULMB and fps above 60 Hz.

If you are at your budget limit consider this:

1. Drop the 2nd 1070, which puts $400 back in your budget, leaving you $650 to spend on the monitor. The 2nd 1070 can be added later.

2. Consider the following

a) $500 Acer XB270HU Abprz 144Hz TN 2560 x 1440 Monitor ... currently $100 off at Microcenter
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-umhb0aaa02

b) $700 Acer XB270HU bprz 144Hz IIPS 2560 x 1440 Monitor
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-xb270hubprz

c) $717 Acer XB271HU bmiprz 165Hz IPS 2560 x 1440 Monitor
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-xb271hubmiprz

IPS would cost you an extra $77 if ya went for the faster one which brings ULMB at 120 Hz to the table XB270HU does 100 Hz w/ ULMB.

The TN option still leaves you with $150 in ya pocket or about 40% of the 2nd 1070.