Question upgrade build

[palladinoandrea]

I have this build:

• AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
• ASUS TUF GAMING B550-PLUS WIFI II
• 8x2 Corsair DDR4-2132 RAM (1066 MHz)
• GPU 2060 evga
• hdd wd digital blue and black
• mnve sp 1tb
• DeepCool GameStormCaptain 240mm AI Cooling
• deepcool dunkase case
• psu: thermaltake paris 650
• Monitor 1:LG Full HD monitor | 24" Monitor ML600S Series | Full HD, IPS, FreeSync 75Hz, Integrated Speakers
• monitor 2: philips 246 elh fhd

I'm considering these changes:

• Ram: 3600 cl 16 16 or 32GB
• GPU: Gainward 4070 Super (although the 7900gree isn't bad)

Case🙁always in argb)

• Deepcool ch560
• be quiet! Pure Base 500DX Black
• be quiet! Pure Base 500 FX Black Midi Tower
• Phanteks Eclipse G360A
• Phanteks Eclipse G500A

Monitors:

• LG 27GR75Q
• Koorui GN03
• KTC H27T22

What do you recommend me to do?
In your opinion, can the PSU keep this build or should I change it?

 

[Eximo]

For a 4070 Super at 220W 650W is as low as you can really go. Should put full load at around 400W, with power spikes near to 600W. So within range of your PSU as long as it isn't too old.

These days a 2x16GB memory kit is worth it. Since this is likely your last DDR4 purchase, go for it.

Chassis are somewhat subjective here, since they all have pretty decent airflow characteristics. Pick the one you like the most.

I rather trust LG over those other brands. Though I understand KTC does have some decent products.

 

[palladinoandrea]

For a 4070 Super at 220W 650W is as low as you can really go. Should put full load at around 400W, with power spikes near to 600W. So within range of your PSU as long as it isn't too old.

These days a 2x16GB memory kit is worth it. Since this is likely your last DDR4 purchase, go for it.

Chassis are somewhat subjective here, since they all have pretty decent airflow characteristics. Pick the one you like the most.

I rather trust LG over those other brands. Though I understand KTC does have some decent products.

but the 4070 super compared to the 7900 gre which one would be better to take?

 

[Eximo]

Well, that is a topic in and of itself.

7900 GRE is slightly faster than the 7800XT. Better for compute, not necessarily gaming. Though the 7800XT has the memory bandwidth advantage but both have 16GB VRAM. Both about 260W and pushing your current power supply a little too much.

4070 Super will basically win any time ray-tracing is in use. But only has 12GB VRAM.

That said, the general performance between the GRE and 4070 Super could be considered equal. Game to game one or the other will take the lead.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-radeon-rx-7900-gre-review/3

 

[palladinoandrea]

on a practical level, do you notice the difference in having ray and dlss?

 

[geofelt]

Sounds like you have the funds and the itch.

What do you want to accomplish?

On ram, are you multitasking while gaming?
If so, 32gb is a good idea.
ryzen depends on fast ram for performance so going to 3600 speed is good.

Before upgrading your graphics card, try this simple test:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited and a cpu upgrade would be in order.

Modern graphics cards have some very high power demand peaks, well above the nominal levels.
I would look for a quality replacement in the 850w level.
The psu will only use the power demanded of it, regardless of the max capability. One measure of quality would be a warranty of 7 years or more.

On cases, looks count.
Most will have two or three front intake fans suitable for either aio cooling or air cooling.
If your 240 aio has any age on it, think 5 years, plan on a replacement.
In time, the mechanical pump fails or gets clogged or collects debris.
Or, air intrudes through the tubes.

On the monitors, go to rtings.com where they test all sorts of monitors.

 

[palladinoandrea]

On the monitors, go to rtings.com where they test all sorts of monitors.

on that site there is nothing for ktc

Most will have two or three front intake fans suitable for either aio cooling or air cooling.
If your 240 aio has any age on it, think 5 years, plan on a replacement.
In time, the mechanical pump fails or gets clogged or collects debris.
Or, air intrudes through the tubes.

the temperatures are always optimal despite the fact that I have had it for 7-8 years, I can also do a test on occt... the problem is that since the case has a front door, when it is closed it "suffocates"

Modern graphics cards have some very high power demand peaks, well above the nominal levels.
I would look for a quality replacement in the 850w level.
The psu will only use the power demanded of it, regardless of the max capability. One measure of quality would be a warranty of 7 years or more.

ok, I saw the kolink, itek and gigabyte

Before upgrading your graphics card, try this simple test:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited and a cpu upgrade would be in order.

consider that am4 is not even a year old, so I prefer to spend money on something else then maybe at the next Intel\amd generation I'll get a new block

On ram, are you multitasking while gaming?
If so, 32gb is a good idea.
ryzen depends on fast ram for performance so going to 3600 speed is good.

at most when I play with the secondary monitor I'm on Facebook so in the end I record the game and do stuff like this

 

[Eximo]

on a practical level, do you notice the difference in having ray and dlss?

I don't really play any games that have that technology in them. I don't often chase the latest story driven titles which tend to get the high end graphics.

Ray tracing is interesting, but the performance hit is often not worth it vs more traditional lighting methods.

DLSS is a way to get more FPS via upscaling and frame generation (30 series doesn't support frame generation, so I haven't even experienced that)
AMD and Intel have competing technologies in the form of FSR and XeSS.


AM4 is much older than a year. And Zen 3 launched in 2020. You may have purchased a 5600X recently, but it has been around a while.

 

[palladinoandrea]

AMD and Intel have competing technologies in the form of FSR and XeSS.

and which of the two is better?

AM4 is much older than a year. And Zen 3 launched in 2020. You may have purchased a 5600X recently, but it has been around a while.

yes, I'm talking about the fact that both the mobo and the cpu are not even a year old with me

 

[Eximo]

DLSS is considered the best. FSR is constantly improving though. XeSS is less well known. The top Intel card A770 isn't be the best graphics card and its adoption is low. I do have an Intel card, but it is the lighter A380 which can't do a lot when it comes to gaming. XeSS should help it, but I've never needed it. Mostly just tested some early DX12 titles and they worked pretty well.

Upscaling may become more valuable as games get harder to run, about all I can say about that.

 

[palladinoandrea]

oh well yes, the best card is not the best one overall but with the technologies that accompany it