Question Upgrade for my 1080ti, Ray Tracing not important

[jdandy1234]

I am looking to upgrade my Grapics card. I currently am running a 1080ti, and it can still run games pretty good on 4k high, medium settings. I am looking at a card to last me a good 4-5 years.

Please note, I currently play games on my sony TV, 4K 60, which I love. I want to be able to run games at 4k Ultra, BUT to tell you the truth, Ray Tracing is not really that important to me. I don't look around at reflections or shadows when I am gaming too often

So , in short, I am strictly looking for 4K Gaming, Ultra Settings, NO RAY TRACING

Here are my current thoughts on what card to go with. I currently have 600-700, but can save up more if need be, leaning towards the 4070, because of the price, and seems like a major upgrad from 1080ti

3080 - Mabey, but still a little expensive
3080TI - Mabey, but still a little expensive
4070, I am leaning towards because of the price
4080 - Have not heard good things about it since its price is close to the 4090
4090. expensive, and may be a bit overkill

Any thoughts, anyone ?

 

[Fix_that_Glitch]

I am looking to upgrade my Grapics card. I currently am running a 1080ti, and it can still run games pretty good on 4k high, medium settings. I am looking at a card to last me a good 4-5 years.

Please note, I currently play games on my sony TV, 4K 60, which I love. I want to be able to run games at 4k Ultra, BUT to tell you the truth, Ray Tracing is not really that important to me. I don't look around at reflections or shadows when I am gaming too often

So , in short, I am strictly looking for 4K Gaming, Ultra Settings, NO RAY TRACING

Here are my current thoughts on what card to go with. I currently have 600-700, but can save up more if need be, leaning towards the 4070, because of the price, and seems like a major upgrad from 1080ti

3080 - Mabey, but still a little expensive
3080TI - Mabey, but still a little expensive
4070, I am leaning towards because of the price
4080 - Have not heard good things about it since its price is close to the 4090
4090. expensive, and may be a bit overkill

Any thoughts, anyone ?

If you are talking 5 years, you might as well spend the cash for the 4090. God knows what they will build into games in 4-5 year window.

 

[Eximo]

4080 is over-priced, but still a good performer. Just that since it is so expensive, those that tend to afford it, just go straight to the 4090.

4070 is a little light, basically a 3080.

4070Ti is a little better, but also only has 12GB VRAM.

I hate to say, 5 year plan, 4090.

Only 'budget' alternative is the 7900XTX.

 

[dark_globe]

what processor+ram and what power supply do you have ?

as others have already said rtx 4070 is not worth the money
because especially in 4K it´s lacking in performance -
low memory bandwith is starting to come into play -
considering it´s a brand new card and it only has 12gb of VRAM and
it performs even slightly worse than the old rtx 3080
and it´s selling for 650 it´s not worth the money .

consider to buy radeon 7900xt instead
(same price as 4070Ti , 20gb of VRAM instead of 12
and 25-30% better in 4K than the regular 4070
and also faster than Ti model)

if 650 bucks is the budget than 6950xt would be good for the money -
16gb of VRAM and same performance as rtx 3090 in 4K
if 4-5 years is your goal than anything less than the 4090 won´t do .
(but it is always better to save 1000 bucks and
buy a second or third best card on the market and replace it after 2 years or so)

 

[jdandy1234]

what processor+ram and what power supply do you have ?

as others have already said rtx 4070 is not worth the money
because especially in 4K it´s lacking in performance -
low memory bandwith is starting to come into play -
considering it´s a brand new card and it only has 12gb of VRAM and
it performs even slightly worse than the old rtx 3080
and it´s selling for 650 it´s not worth the money .

consider to buy radeon 7900xt instead
(same price as 4070Ti , 20gb of VRAM instead of 12
and 25-30% better in 4K than the regular 4070
and also faster than Ti model)

if 650 bucks is the budget than 6950xt would be good for the money -
16gb of VRAM and same performance as rtx 3090 in 4K
if 4-5 years is your goal than anything less than the 4090 won´t do .
(but it is always better to save 1000 bucks and
buy a second or third best card on the market and replace it after 2 years or so)

thank you...amd is the way to go

 

[Avro Arrow]

Well, here's what I would recommend:

For performance similar to the RTX 3080, you're looking at the RX 6800 XT:
Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 XT Pulse 16GB: $520

For performance similar to the RTX 3090 Ti, you'd be looking at the RX 6950 XT:
ASRock Radeon RX 6950 XT Phantom Gaming D 16GB: $650

I would personally recommend the OC model. Now, I normally don't put much stock in which model of a card you choose, but for only $10 more (less than a 2% increase in price), you may as well get the:
ASRock Radeon RX 6950 XT Formula OC 16GB: $660

For performance similar to the RTX 4070 Ti, you'd be looking at the RX 7900 XT:
Powercolor Radeon RX 7900 XT Hellhound 20GB: $800

And finally, for performance similar to the RTX 4080, you'd be looking at the RX 7900 XTX:
XFX Radeon RX 7900 XTX Speedster MERC 24GB: $990

I posted all Radeons because if ray-tracing isn't important to you, then buying a GeForce card would be a mistake right now because they're just not worth what they cost. Also, to get the longevity that you want, you'll need at least 16GB of VRAM because 8GB is already showing a plethora of problems and even 10GB has a few problems (but only in very specific situations). I think that 12GB would be fine for the next 3-4 years but not the next 5-6 like you want.

Remember, the biggest reason that your GTX 1080 Ti (one of the best cards ever made BTW) has lived this long isn't the RX 5700 XT - level of GPU performance (although that IS part of it), but because it has 11GB of VRAM. I'm assuming that you don't want to upgrade to a card that has only 1GB more VRAM than the card that you already have so, yeah, 16GB was the minimum that I set.

I left out the RX 6800 because the RX 6800 XT, at $520 is too close in price for the RX 6800 to be worth it and it wouldn't last as long because it is a weaker card.

The RX 6800 XT will have the shortest life of these cards because the RX 6950 XT is 16% faster but it's also 25% more expensive. The RX 7900 XT and XTX will definitely live the longest with their colossal 20GB and 24GB frame buffers but they also cost a good deal more.

Depending on what you want to do, I would personally recommend either the RX 6800 XT for its really low price or the RX 6950 XT Formula OC for its increased performance. The RX 7000 cards will have far superior ray-tracing performance than the RX 6000 cards, but, like me, you don't care about that so it really would come down to the RX 6800 XT Pulse and RX 6950 XT Formula OC for me.

Just remember to use DDU before installing the Adrenalin Drivers and you'll have no issues whatsoever. Cheers!

 

[sonofjesse]

Just go back to a 1080P TV and problem solved hahaha.

If you want 4k, 4090 is your best bet.

 

[iTRiP]

The RTX 4070Ti, is sitting at a nice price from where I'm looking.

But for a new card I can't understand why they only have such low bus width on the vram!

 

[Why_Me]

The RTX 4070Ti, is sitting at a nice price from where I'm looking.

But for a new card I can't understand why they only have such low bus width on the vram!

The 4070 Ti is geared for gaming at 1440P, not 4K.

 

[Why_Me]

The 4090 is the obvious choice if it fits your budget.

 

[Avro Arrow]

I agree with Why_Me, if it fits your budget, the RTX 4090 is definitely the obvious choice.

But.... as the Spartans said to Philip of Macedon.... "IF".