Question Upgrade from 2700x

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My curent pc is: Ryzen 7 2700x Gigabyte x470 gaming pro 2x8 gb corsair @3000 Gainward gtx 1070 gs Corsair rm750x 750w

I play mostly single player, or non competitive online games, @1440p.

I want an upgrade but I can't decide between 2 options, basically am4 vs am5. I also want to get a new gpu, rtx 4070 maybe.

If I go am4, I would get the 5800x3d and 2 more ram sticks for about 400 euros, keeping the motherboard and the 2x8gb of ram.

If I go am5, I would get a 7700x, 2x16 gb of ram @6000 and the gigabyte b650 gaming x ax motherboard for around 700 euros.

300 euros difference! Do I really get improved performance from the cpu for 300 more euros?

YT benchmarks are not very clear: some give 10-15% more performance, other give near egallity.

What route should I go? I ussually keep my rigs 4-5 years.
 

Lutfij

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You could just drop in the Ryzen 5800X3D and call it a day, without changing anything else in your build(apart from making sure your motherboard BIOS is flashed to the latest version) but you will loose out on some performance from the platform overall due to the ram. You could alleviate that with tight latency, higher frequency dual channel ram kit like DDR4-3200MHz or DDR4-3600MHz.

I'd avoid the AM5 platform now due to what's happening all over, not just the BIOS issue. What sort of titles do you tax the system with?
 

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i'd also just drop the 5800XD into what you have and be done with it. not worth the slight performance increase with AM5 at this time and prices.

i would add that running 4 sticks or ram, especially if they are not matched sets, can be troublesome. i am assuming you would like to add another 16gb for 32gb total. the extra $20 or so to just get a 2 x16 gb kit would be worth it. you'd save yourself some potential issues and you could sell what you have and get that $20 back and have spent the same overall. might even get more but i'd be happy with $20 for a used 2 x 8gb set :)
 

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@Lutfij I play anno 1800, cities skylines, TW series (WH3 and 3K), Skyrim heavy modded, RDR2, waiting for Starfield and Diablo 4.

@Math Geek Yes, I also thought it would be better to to put 2x16 new rams. Quite 20 euros extra indeed.

Should I go for some specific rams? Like I understand for the new AM5 one of the best are gskills Z5 neo. Is there a better than other rams for AM4?
 

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Good, I will go with the same corsair low profile, 2x16gb @3200 cl16.

Thank you all!

Some advice on gpu? I was set fo rtx 4070 (aprox. 730 euros - palit gamingpro). But now I could have a rx 7900xt for about 910 euros (sapphire pulse) or rx 7900 xtx for about 1160 euros (powercolor hellhound). cost per frame 4070 looks better, but ram quantity...
 

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Good, I will go with the same corsair low profile, 2x16gb @3200 cl16.

Thank you all!

Some advice on gpu? I was set fo rtx 4070 (aprox. 730 euros - palit gamingpro). But now I could have a rx 7900xt for about 910 euros (sapphire pulse) or rx 7900 xtx for about 1160 euros (powercolor hellhound). cost per frame 4070 looks better, but ram quantity...

I'm not sure about the VRAM issue, I think only certain games are affected, and it entirely depends on what your monitor's resolution is. If you're going for 4K then you might squeeze a few extra frames out of the 7900XT, but the 4070TI is the overall superior card. On 1440P and 1080P, you would most likely be wasting the extra money spent because it wouldn't make that significant of a difference.
 
Ditto on the 5800xd3

As far as the 4070 I just installed 1 in my son's rig.
So far It's a great card for $100 more then I paid for a Gigabyte Rtx 2070 super windforce 3x oc.

It's NOT power hungery and runs Cool and Quite!!!!!! And smaller.

He has got Everthing on max settings and has No issues @1440p.

I had him do a 3dmark Timespy run set on 1440p
And I did the same thing.
Here are the links.


Yes I know 2 completely different systems, but look at the graphic scores and temps where my system is a custom loop.

You would see a Huge increase over the 1070.

Good Luck and Have a Great Weekend!!!!!
 

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Nice. Thank you all. Decision made:

CPU = 5800x3d
RAM = 2x16gb 3200 cl16 corsair lpx
GPU = RTX 4070 (the best deal I would get)

But one more question:
My motherboard (I post it wrong, it is x470 aorus ultra gaming) has one pcie 3 and one pcie 2 m.2 ssd connections. How bad will an ssd run from the pcie 2 slot?
 
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From what I saw on Gigabyte's site your
2nd m.2 slot shares bandwidth with a pciex4 slot, so as long as you don't have anything in it the m.2 should run fine.

Here is the 4070 in my son's.


Have A Great Weekend!!!!!!!!
 
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