Question Upgrade from 3070. Why can't I decide? 5070 v 9070XT

[nygburks]

System specs:
Ryzen 5800x
nVidia 3070
750w PSU
Strix B550-F mobo

I can get either a 9070 XT or a 5070 for similar pricing currently (one online, one local). For the life of me I cannot make a decision between the two. I game on my TV which is 55", 4k, 120hz, VRR but also have a 165hz 1080p monitor (very rarely used). Honestly I prefer the TV as I don't play competitive FPS any more and sit about 8 feet away on my couch. The two games I play the most are Elder Scrolls Online (yeah yeah, not intensive) and Cyberpunk 2077. Already have 600+ hours on CP2077 on my PS5 but I still want to play it, just with way better visuals than I got on the PS5. I really, really enjoy playing games closer to 100FPS than 60FPS. Ray Tracing would be a BIG plus but I have very little experience (aside from YouTube videos) with that and zero with Path Tracing.

Basically I'm stuck where to spend my money. My system will be upgraded to a 9800x3d later on this year if that matters. Would I be disappointed with the frame gen on the 5070 to hit 100-120 FPS at 2k/4k with RT?

Guess I'm stuck between Frame Gen v Raster right? At this point I've racked my brain so much that I'm just confusing myself to the point of just being outright derpy.

 

[Aeacus]

Would I be disappointed with the frame gen on the 5070 to hit 100-120 FPS at 2k/4k with RT?

You tell me;

Cyberpunk 2077, 1440p with Ray Tracing;

Cyberpunk 2077, 4K with Ray Tracing;

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-review-founders-edition/5

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Even RTX 5090 will not do 100-120 FPS at 4K with RT in Cyberpunk 2077;

But it does manage ~100 FPS on 1440p with RT in Cyberpunk 2077;

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-review/5

So, either:
Vastly reduce your FPS target.
or
Vastly increase your budget to afford RTX 5090 + 1.6 kW PSU to go alongside with it.

 

[Gururu]

Maybe this will help XDA

 

[CelicaGT]

Never consider Frame Gen or even DLSS/Upscaling in any of your purchase decisions. It does not function correctly all the time and its implementation varies in quality in different games. In some games it works great, in others, it's so completely broken that it cannot be used. Base decisions on raster only and consider the other features as a nice bonus for WHEN they work.

 

[logainofhades]

You will not hit that FPS target, at 4k, even with RT off.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-xt-nitro/12.html

Even at 1080p, with RT it will not happen. DLSS might get you close at 1080p, but how well it looks could be up for debate.

 

[sonofjesse]

If the drivers are working the 9070XT is better. 9070XT and 5070TI is the better side by side in most games.

Its hard to find a MSRP card currently though. Most are over priced AIB cards. Most 5070TI's here are 1k+ (after taxes).