Upgrade from 980X to 6700K worth it?

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I want more power, but I hate Windows 10. So it's Skylake or nothing. I figure it'll cost me around 500 bucks to upgrade craigslist style.

I don't like upgrading unless I am doubling the performance. On Passmark, a 980x gets 1454 in single threaded performance and 8877 total. A 6700k gets 2349 in single threaded performance and 11109 total. According to Passmark, the 6700k is 160% faster in single and 125% faster in total. That doesn't quite meet my preferred threshold.

I figure that the upgrading will get me Sata 3, PCI-E 3.0, M.2 storage, USB 3.1 and 160%/125% faster CPU. Am I missing anything?

I keep going back and forth on whether it's worth it or not. I bought the 1080Ti to get 100+ frames (Ultra settings) on my 1440 ultrawide, but it's not quite there in all my games. Some games are fine, others are not. I achieve my goal in Doom and Battlefront, but not in COH2 or even Bad Company 2. I think some engines might not be very well optimized. For instance I get better framerates in Battlefront than BF3. In general, I think I am losing about 20-30 frames because of the 980X.

Also, just so you know, the 1080Ti is usually about twice as fast a Fury X, even on an older system like mine. In Witcher 3, I used to get ~45 frames, now I get ~90 frames. In BC2, I used to get 90, now I get 99. So some games doubled, some didn't.

I keep thinking about getting a 1TB PCI-E Hyperx Predator drive (1400 read speed) and a USB 3.1 PCI-E card. But then I couldn't recoup any costs by selling my 980X/mobo/ram. I don't know, maybe I shouldn't upgrade anything. Maybe I should just sit on the 500 bucks that's burning a hole in my pocket.

Am I really missing out by having a 7 year old system? Or am I just being fidgety?

Thanks for reading.
 
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It is important to notice that PASSMARK, as well as other synthetic benchmarks are completely USELESS if you don't know how to use them.

Real-World applications tell more of the story. If all you do is gaming it's hard to tell

It depends on the particular game and it depends on the resolution and frame-rate you want to play your games at.

At 144hz which is what you want to do I think the CPU matters a lot and definitely your 1080 ti is being held back by your CPU, even if it was a monster back in the day.

At 60hz I think that CPU is still a great choice because the main limiting factor is the GPU since the CPU doesn't have to draw so many FPS and frame-rate is going to come down to how the GPU deals with higher resolutions and...
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1080Ti paired with a 980X?! Jesus, get yourself an upgrade. Coffee Lake is launching in august, and will bring 6 Core/12 Threads to mainstream, making it a super good fit for the 1080Ti. That's where i would strike. If you don't want to wait, 7700K is your best bet if you want the best gaming performance.

Bottom Line: the upgrade will boost your performance by a whole lot, since your CPU and platform is way outdated for a 1080Ti.
 
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I agree on waiting for coffe lake as pointed out 6c/12t single core performance equal or better than the i7 7700k, now the i7 980X was not like buying a shitty Chevrolet you need to change every year because they are crap cars, that i7 was and still is a master piece, i wouldn't even sell it.
 
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It is important to notice that PASSMARK, as well as other synthetic benchmarks are completely USELESS if you don't know how to use them.

Real-World applications tell more of the story. If all you do is gaming it's hard to tell

It depends on the particular game and it depends on the resolution and frame-rate you want to play your games at.

At 144hz which is what you want to do I think the CPU matters a lot and definitely your 1080 ti is being held back by your CPU, even if it was a monster back in the day.

At 60hz I think that CPU is still a great choice because the main limiting factor is the GPU since the CPU doesn't have to draw so many FPS and frame-rate is going to come down to how the GPU deals with higher resolutions and shaders.

But as I mentioned before, it depends on the game, hence the importance of having a good CPU. Some games are very light on the CPU, even at 144hz+ some of them are not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy1M0jkRWWk

According to this, you are losing about 30 FPS on ROTR, but only 10 in crysis 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyHgXNYBZxo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhuC8Tf9i3I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sx1kLGVAF0

Having seen many videos there is an improvement when getting a newer CPU but once you stary overclocking you close the performance gap between all of them

So if you can afford it, then why not? the 6700K is still one of the best CPUs for gaming. I'm glad you didn't get crazy and grabbed an i9, because just like the 980X when it released, it would do nothing for gaming.

But I would consider buying an amd ryzen CPU, they are great when it comes to price to performance, and even if people said kaby lake and zen aren't compatible with windows 8.1 or older they have been demostrated to be compatible with W7-8 without any loses in performance.

Even the 8th gen from intel seems to be a much better deal than 6th or 7th gen CPUs. You just have to wait

I would even buy a 6700 over the 6700K, with a bios outdate they can OC almost the same as K models, but they are cheapper, especially if you find an OEM one somewhere, at least that's the case in my country
 
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No one can beat the performance of 980x but again its getting old... Upgrading is an immediate fix but i would wait for coffeelake or something more of ryzen to do that... A little bottleneck is ok and i guess its not affecting your gameplay...

EDIT: I meant coffelake... :)
 
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I'll go get a video card that's slower than the one I have. Great idea.
 
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