Upgrade gpu or cpu i5 7400,gtx 1060 6gb?

[gasolin]

i5 7400,gtx 1070 or i7 6700,gtx 1060 6gb ?

I have a i5 7400 and gtx 1060 6gb and play on a 3440x1440 100hz mnonitor games like projectcars,grid autosport,CS:GO,need for speed 2 shift unleashed, bf 1 also have bf 3/4, crysis 1-3 and games like borderlands 2, the per sepuel,wolfenstein the new order and the old blood that i currently don't play

 

[jimmyEatWord]

it's always better not to have a cpu bottleneck although it wouldn't improve your gpu

 

[sizzling]

Do you mean i7 6700?

Can you choose Ryzen 1600 & GTX 1070? I sort of agree with above, if your gpu isn't giving the fps you want you can turn down game settings. If your CPU isn't giving the fps you want you are stuck and need to upgrade or overclock if possible.

 

[jimmyEatWord]

yes having a ryzen is definitely better although new technologies are always on the intel platform

 

[sizzling]

although new technologies are always on the intel platform

Not sure what you mean? Ryzen is new technology?

 

[jimmyEatWord]

although new technologies are always on the intel platform

Not sure what you mean? Ryzen is new technology?

no what i mean is that ryzen is good it will last longer , but the new technologies of the future will come on the intel platform like they did in the past . so if you wanna have pci e 4 and ddr5 it's better to settle for some temporary solution for now .

 

[sizzling]

although new technologies are always on the intel platform

Not sure what you mean? Ryzen is new technology?

no what i mean is that ryzen is good it will last longer , but the new technologies of the future will come on the intel platform like they did in the past . so if you wanna have pci e 4 and ddr5 it's better to settle for some temporary solution for now .

Whatever you buy now wont support those, once released I expect both AMD and Intel will have new CPU sockets and motherboards. I cannot see how that changes what to buy today? There is always a new standard on the horizon.

 

[gasolin]

Do you mean i7 6700?

Can you choose Ryzen 1600 & GTX 1070? I sort of agree with above, if your gpu isn't giving the fps you want you can turn down game settings. If your CPU isn't giving the fps you want you are stuck and need to upgrade or overclock if possible.

If i could i wouldn't ask ( Ryzen 1600 & GTX 1070)

 

[jimmyEatWord]

although new technologies are always on the intel platform

Not sure what you mean? Ryzen is new technology?

no what i mean is that ryzen is good it will last longer , but the new technologies of the future will come on the intel platform like they did in the past . so if you wanna have pci e 4 and ddr5 it's better to settle for some temporary solution for now .

Whatever you buy now wont support those, once released I expect both AMD and Intel will have new CPU sockets and motherboards. I cannot see how that changes what to buy today? There is always a new standard on the horizon.

i doubt it , my guess would be that intel will have those technologies first and it would take quite a while for AMD to adapt . the IEEE is with intel .

 

[madmatt30]

Pciex-4 ?? You need at least dual 1080ti to even come close to saturating the current slot.

 

[gasolin]

although new technologies are always on the intel platform

Not sure what you mean? Ryzen is new technology?

no what i mean is that ryzen is good it will last longer , but the new technologies of the future will come on the intel platform like they did in the past . so if you wanna have pci e 4 and ddr5 it's better to settle for some temporary solution for now .

Whatever you buy now wont support those, once released I expect both AMD and Intel will have new CPU sockets and motherboards. I cannot see how that changes what to buy today? There is always a new standard on the horizon.

Coffee Lake is surpose to be socket 1151, if current mb's will support it i don't know Coffee lake (just one link out of many that say coffee lake will be socket 1151)

 

[jimmyEatWord]

Pciex-4 ?? You need at least dual 1080ti to even come close to saturating the current slot.

well it 's coming out soon whether you like it or not , and computers aren't quite like that , they come up with something to sell their stuff

 

[sizzling]

Do you mean i7 6700?

Can you choose Ryzen 1600 & GTX 1070? I sort of agree with above, if your gpu isn't giving the fps you want you can turn down game settings. If your CPU isn't giving the fps you want you are stuck and need to upgrade or overclock if possible.

If i could i wouldn't ask ( Ryzen 1600 & GTX 1070)

In which case either Ryzen 1600 or i7 6700/7700. High fps is very CPU demanding and with a 100Hz monitor you want a CPU that can keep games over 100fps. You can get the 1060 and turn settings down and then in the future upgrade gpu.

 

[Karadjgne]

So far as I understand, there's only going to be 2x coffee-lake cpus that fall into lga1151, the rest will be on the X299 platform.

Right now, there isn't a gpu on the market that'll actually come close to saturating the bandwidth of pcie 3 x16, you can even comfortably run a gtx1080ti on pcie 2 x8 and not saturate the bandwidth. Pcie 3 for the most part is nothing more than a sales gimmick, like putting 180mph on a speedometer when any local speed limit is 70mph at best.

 

[gasolin]

Another question, will i be able to run my cpu at 3.5 ghz on all core with a Z mb?

I know in the old days with sandy and ivy bridge you could still oc a non k cpu, with haswell cpu's i know you can set turbo speed on all core with a Z mb (not shure with sandy and ivy bride).

What about kaby lake non k, can they run turbo speed on all cores on a Z mb ?

 

[Karadjgne]

2nd generation Sandy-Bridge saw the first 'K' overclocking cpus, which split the cpus into locked multiplier or unlocked. OC was thereby shunted to BCLK, which was a disaster waiting to happen. Only certain cpus with unlocked multipliers like the pentium G3528 deviated from that.

Z mobo won't change that, a locked cpu is a locked cpu, it just has an unrestricted bios that aligns with a K cpu's unlocked multiplier to grant OC. Granted, there are exceptions, but as a general rule in order to exceed the stock default settings requires a K&Z.

Generally, resolution has little to do with the cpu, very little if any difference to the cpu between 3440x1440 and 1920x1080, an object is still an object. Frequency is different. The cpu needs to tell the gpu to put that object at a certain location 100x a second, vrs standard 60x a second, so yes, the 100Hz monitor can require a certain amount of cpu horsepower. Resolution is just about all on the gpu, and at 3440x1440 you are pushing the limits of what a 1060 can do, and still get decent fps at decent detail settings. You'll get ultra in very few games, especially at 100Hz or better.

Where you are at is right in the middle,damned if you do, damned if you don't. There's many games that handle an i5 no worries, but require gpu horsepower to get good fps, so for those games, the i5/1070 will be the best option. However, there's just as many games that not only benefit from the i7, but need the increased ability the i7 brings over the i5, cpu intensive games, that have a lesser reliance on the gpu. Then the i7/1060 would be better.

Honestly, for the price, I'd go with Ryzen R5 1600 and a 1070. This'll get the HP needed for both cpu and gpu without the limitations of either the i5 or the gtx1060.

 

[mdd1963]

The K- variants are sometimes only $10 more, and, clocked 200 MHz higher....no reason not to get them, even if not planning on OCing...

 

[mdd1963]

5 M pixels at high refresh rates would be pushing it for a GTX1060; I'd jump to whatever 6700K/7700K you can find, and the GTX1080....

Do the GPU first.....

 

[gasolin]

Honestly, for the price, I'd go with Ryzen R5 1600 and a 1070. This'll get the HP needed for both cpu and gpu without the limitations of either the i5 or the gtx1060.

If i had the money i wouldn't ask

Tell me why i should choose the Ryzen 5 1600 (remember i have a i5 7400 and a gtx 1060 6gb)

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[gasolin]

Again your suggest me to get someting way above what i have, gtx 1080 or ryzen 5 1600 + gtx 1070

If i could afford both i wouldn't be asking, im only getting one thing and it's not a gtx 1080 and not a ryzen 5 1600.

What i don't upgrade now i might get black friday either a gtx 1070 or a faster cpu, what i upgrade to if it's cpu i don't know, they say i5 8.... is gonna be 6 core and socket 1151, if my mb supports it i don't know (msi B250 pc mate) or if im gonna get a ryzen 5 1600 if theres a good deal, since i would need not only a new cpu and mb i would also need faster ram (above 2666mhz)

 

[aquielisunari]

Why go from one generation to a past generation? I pick the 7700K.

Vega is going to be released any day now and Volta will be released sometime late this year or very early 2018.

If you were a professional Vega's workstation cards are already available. Give the market some time to shake off the etherium craze that is quickly declining and for Nvidia and AMD to release both of their newest generations. AMD is FINALLY stepping up to the plate. It's worth waiting to see what they do and how Nvidia responds. AMD stung Intel with its Ryzen CPUs. They now need to provide an alternative to those looking to the 1070 or 1080 or the upcoming remix 2070 and 2080.

The Vega workstation card is about the ugliest card of all time.

 

[gasolin]

Not gonna buy a amd card since i have a g sync monitor and with mining theres no amd gpu like the 580 avaiable unless you like waiting 2-3 weeks

 

[Karadjgne]

Probably your best option. Wait for Black Friday, Cyber Monday. You have a decent setup for 1080p, but with that monitor, to get anything close to the same fps, you'll need the 1070 for sure.

You already have ddr4 ram, so what you need is a cpu at Thanksgiving. Currently the i7-6700k is $310, you can get an R5 1600 + decent mobo for the same price (sell your current mobo and get some money back). So your options are open as far as cpu goes, but a cpu with more than 4 threads is going to be a deciding factor in more than a few games, anywhere upto an additional 30-40fps, which could ostensibly keep you in the 100Hz range. But you will need the power of the 1070 to get you there, and thats what I'd start with now and see how performance is. It's possible you'll be ok with the i5, but that's a personal decision.