UPGRADE HP PAVILLION a1000

[ElShaarawy]

Yeah, it looks insane, but I want with 350€ upgrade my old war machine. This BUILD is thinking in a Christmas upgrade (r9 290; AMD Zen(???); New case). I'm an AMD fanboy so don't try to teach me Intel xD. Look this idea:

AMD A10-7870k
Raijintek Aidos 48.6 Black (I read somewhere that outperforms Hyper 212)
ASUS X88M-A FM2+
Kingston HyperX Fury 2x4GB DDR3 (I can't decide which Mhz i choose, help me)
Crucial 240GB
XFX 600W BRONZE (This psu is thinking in the Christmas upgrade)

I'll keep the HDD, fan, drives and i'll buy the case in a used things store, or just keep this one, I can't decide.

 

[Hlsgsz]

Yeah, it looks insane, but I want with 350€ upgrade my old war machine. This BUILD is thinking in a Christmas upgrade (r9 290; AMD Zen(???); New case). I'm an AMD fanboy so don't try to teach me Intel xD. Look this idea:

AMD A10-7870k
Raijintek Aidos 48.6 Black (I read somewhere that outperforms Hyper 212)
ASUS X88M-A FM2+
Kingston HyperX Fury 2x4GB DDR3 (I can't decide which Mhz i choose, help me)
Crucial 240GB
XFX 600W BRONZE (This psu is thinking in the Christmas upgrade)

I'll keep the HDD, fan, drives and i'll buy the case in a used things store, or just keep this one, I can't decide.

If you must have AMD, you'd be stupid to not wait for Zen. The current platforms are dead and burried, so i wouldn't spend a penny on them.

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

XFX XT 600W BRONZE is not a good power supply .....IT'S MADE BY Shenzhen Rui Sheng Yuan Technology.

 

[weberdarren97]

I agree, AMD FX is basically dead, and I just don't see the point in their APUs since they can only use their dual graphics with lower GPUs, so if you want high graphics performance and get a higher GPU you won't be taking full advantage of your APUs built in "Graphics Accelerators" because they can only work in dual graphics with a specific set of GPUs which are not in the R9 series.

If you ask me, APUs are one of those ideas that looked good on paper, but failed in real life.

 

[ElShaarawy]

Everything u said is right, but where is the money?

With 350€ I can only invest on an APU till six months later, when I'll have the money, buy a GPU and AMD Zen ( I hope yes). It's my opinion, What do u think?
Other thing: I don't have a current computer, I need to invest this 350€ right now :/

So if the psu is bad What do you recommend?

 

[Hlsgsz]

Everything u said is right, but where is the money?

With 350€ I can only invest on an APU till six months later, when I'll have the money, buy a GPU and AMD Zen ( I hope yes). It's my opinion, What do u think?
Other thing: I don't have a current computer, I need to invest this 350€ right now :/

So if the psu is bad What do you recommend?

Well, if you go with AMD you are basically getting worse performance AND throwing this money away(Zen will not work with it), while if you go with Intel, you just need to get the GPU for christmas and you're set. Then if you feel the need you can also upgrade the CPU, as this platform has anothe generation coming to it. Also, you are risking less: If, say, Zen is THAT good, you can still getit it and lose the same amout of money as if you got AMD now. But if Zen dissapoints? What then, if you're on AMD? But Intel?

I'm sorry, but for the life of me i can;t recommend you an AMD build for your 350, so here you go:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($34.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: MyDigitalSSD BP5e Slim 7 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($61.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $337.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-14 19:47 EDT-0400

 

[ElShaarawy]

Update:

AMD A10-7850k
G.Skill Ripjaws X-Series 2x4GB 2133Mhz
Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H
Crucial BX200 240GB
Raijintek Aidos Black
Raijintek Aeneas Black Window (Will not count in the budget, I will buy it for 40€)

~350€

Then I'll save money for a GPU (r9 290 or 390) and wait for AMD Zen.

Hlsgsz I can't go with Intel without a good GPU. I search a lot and for example in CS:GO with low graphics I can't even get 60fps. That's a big issue.
Intel is significantly better with a GPU, but for this 7 months an APU would be better, or am I wrong?

 

[Hlsgsz]

Update:

AMD A10-7850k
G.Skill Ripjaws X-Series 2x4GB 2133Mhz
Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H
Crucial BX200 240GB
Raijintek Aidos Black
Raijintek Aeneas Black Window (Will not count in the budget, I will buy it for 40€)

~350€

Then I'll save money for a GPU (r9 290 or 390) and wait for AMD Zen.

Hlsgsz I can't go with Intel without a good GPU. I search a lot and for example in CS:GO with low graphics I can't even get 60fps. That's a big issue.
Intel is significantly better with a GPU, but for this 7 months an APU would be better, or am I wrong?

Actually, the difference in integrated graphics is not that great as of skylake and it doensn't warrant gettind that dead platform anymore. As for CS:GO, you can get 60FPS even on medium/high on teh i3 6100. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXxqd6sPXpw

However, if you are dead set on AMD, get the a10-7870k and the highest frequency ram suported by that motherboard:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7870K 3.9GHz Quad-Core Processor ($132.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($85.49 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: MyDigitalSSD BP5e Slim 7 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($60.00)
Total: $316.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-23 06:28 EDT-0400

 

[ElShaarawy]

But the 35€ difference between 7850k and 7870k is worth?

Can you explain the difference between 2133Mhz and 2400Mhz?

 

[Hlsgsz]

But the 35€ difference between 7850k and 7870k is worth?

Can you explain the difference between 2133Mhz and 2400Mhz?

The price differecen is disproportional, but if you want the best in your budget..
While ram speed is not relevant when using a discrete GPU, when on integrated graphics it matters alot, because the integrated iGPU uses teh ram as it's VRAM.

Regardless of all this, i'm telling you one last time: you are making a mistake by not going with Intel. The i3 6100 can play CS:GO no problem. I'm sorry for beeing opinionated, but i want to help you get the best for your money.

So this reamins your best choice:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($29.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: MyDigitalSSD BP5e Slim 7 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($60.00)
Total: $258.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-23 07:54 EDT-0400

 

[weberdarren97]

The 7870k runs at 3.9GHz and turbos to 4.1GHz, while the 7850k runs at 3.7GHz and turbos to 4.0GHz. Also, the graphics cores on the 7870k run at 866MHz while the ones on the 7850k run at 720MHz. Both models have the same amount of cores, it's simply speed that's different. I recommend the 7870k.

Now your question about memory, 2400MHz memory will respond faster than 2133MHz and will read/write faster as well. I always recommend faster memory, as long as your hardware supports it.

Also, when Hlsgsz said that that build had the fastest memory for that motherboard, it's not compatible memory according to the motherboard product page. The memory is faster than the memory controller on the motherboard. Therefore, I recommend 2133MHz for this build.

 

[Hlsgsz]

The 7870k runs at 3.9GHz and turbos to 4.1GHz, while the 7850k runs at 3.7GHz and turbos to 4.0GHz. Also, the graphics cores on the 7870k run at 866MHz while the ones on the 7850k run at 720MHz. Both models have the same amount of cores, it's simply speed that's different. I recommend the 7870k.

Now your question about memory, 2400MHz memory will respond faster than 2133MHz and will read/write faster as well. I always recommend faster memory, as long as your hardware supports it.

Also, when Hlsgsz said that that build had the fastest memory for that motherboard, it's not compatible memory according to the motherboard product page. The memory is faster than the memory controller on the motherboard. Therefore, I recommend 2133MHz for this build.

That motherboard suppoorts 2400Mhz ram http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4716#sp

 

[ElShaarawy]

The mobo supports 2400Mhz but OC, it's easy to overclock RAM?

If isn't can u tell me a similar mobo pls. I decide I'll go with AMD (for What I do with a computer is better).