Upgrade my HD4600 GPU

[Claude3000]

Hi all,

I am a casul gamer and I only play CS GO on a 23 inch monitor. I want a better experience in gaming, better FPS (if posible >150FPS on high settings) on 1080p resolution. First of all, what GPU will do it for me within a ~120 $ budget?
I will only play CS GO. I dont intend to play anything else (maybe Heroes ).

I was considering Gygabite GTX650 OC 1Mb.

My specs:
Monitor: DELL U2312HM 23 inch 8ms GTG
MB: Gigabyte GA-B85M-HD3
CPU: Intel Core i3 4330 3.5GHz
GPU: Intel HD4600
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Dual Channel
HDD: Samsung 360 GB
SSD: Samsung 840V120GB (Windows 7)
PSU: Sirtec - High Power Element PLUS 400W.

Please advice.

Regards
Claudiu

 

[unclemao]

i woudl recommend a 7790 or a 650ti. Here is a price performance chart to help you decide: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html

 

[Novuake]

Your monitor has a 60Hz refresh rate, which means it won't display more than 60 frames a second. However aiming for 70FPS is a good place to start.

Since you have an HD monitor, I would strongly suggest a 2GB card.
Try for this :

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=ZT-650TI2S&c=CJ

 

[Claude3000]

i woudl recommend a 7790 or a 650ti. Here is a price performance chart to help you decide: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html

Thank for your response!
I understand that 650 GTX isn't really going to do the job (>150 FPS on high settings). With 7790 or 650 Ti, I also need to upgrade my PSU. My curent PSU only has 400W.

 

[verma1891]

What is your budget? GTX 650Ti is a good card for its budget. Also you should get a 500W PSU for that card. I think your monitor is a 60Hz monitor and you dont need 150+ fps. Practically speaking, everything above 30 fps is not a visible difference and about 60fps for that monitor is very good. Anything over it is practically just a data to show off.

 

[unclemao]

i woudl recommend a 7790 or a 650ti. Here is a price performance chart to help you decide: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html

Thank for your response!
I understand that 650 GTX isn't really going to do the job (>150 FPS on high settings). With 7790 or 650 Ti, I also need to upgrade my PSU. My curent PSU only has 400W.

lol Claude 30fps is considered the minimal fps for a smooth experience. And also having a look at your specs i highly doubt that you need a psu upgrade here's a psu calculator to help you decide http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp good luck on your upgrade

 

[Novuake]

Oh and by the way. That PSU of yours might be fine. I believe its similar to Rosewill HIVE units, which are very good and can run that GPU at 400w easily.

Can you post a photo of the sticker on the side?

 

[verma1891]

i woudl recommend a 7790 or a 650ti. Here is a price performance chart to help you decide: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html

Thank for your response!
I understand that 650 GTX isn't really going to do the job (>150 FPS on high settings). With 7790 or 650 Ti, I also need to upgrade my PSU. My curent PSU only has 400W.

lol Claude 30fps is considered the minimal fps for a smooth experience. And also having a look at your specs i highly doubt that you need a psu upgrade here's a psu calculator to help you decide http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp good luck on your upgrade

PSU's arent 100% efficient.

 

[unclemao]

i woudl recommend a 7790 or a 650ti. Here is a price performance chart to help you decide: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html

Thank for your response!
I understand that 650 GTX isn't really going to do the job (>150 FPS on high settings). With 7790 or 650 Ti, I also need to upgrade my PSU. My curent PSU only has 400W.

lol Claude 30fps is considered the minimal fps for a smooth experience. And also having a look at your specs i highly doubt that you need a psu upgrade here's a psu calculator to help you decide http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp good luck on your upgrade

PSU's arent 100% efficient.

And? the i3 is well known for having a low power consumption. with this system the voltage would be <300

 

[verma1891]

i woudl recommend a 7790 or a 650ti. Here is a price performance chart to help you decide: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html

Thank for your response!
I understand that 650 GTX isn't really going to do the job (>150 FPS on high settings). With 7790 or 650 Ti, I also need to upgrade my PSU. My curent PSU only has 400W.

lol Claude 30fps is considered the minimal fps for a smooth experience. And also having a look at your specs i highly doubt that you need a psu upgrade here's a psu calculator to help you decide http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp good luck on your upgrade

PSU's arent 100% efficient.

And? the i3 is well known for having a low power consumption. with this system the voltage would be <300

I also calculated about 370W. But with a system with graphics card, atleast 500W PSU is recommended to be future proof.

 

[Claude3000]

Thank you all for your swift and documented replays. Really helpful and your links are bookmarked for future use .
I will go with GTX 650 Ti.

All the best!

 

[unclemao]

i woudl recommend a 7790 or a 650ti. Here is a price performance chart to help you decide: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html

Thank for your response!
I understand that 650 GTX isn't really going to do the job (>150 FPS on high settings). With 7790 or 650 Ti, I also need to upgrade my PSU. My curent PSU only has 400W.

lol Claude 30fps is considered the minimal fps for a smooth experience. And also having a look at your specs i highly doubt that you need a psu upgrade here's a psu calculator to help you decide http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp good luck on your upgrade

PSU's arent 100% efficient.

And? the i3 is well known for having a low power consumption. with this system the voltage would be <300

I also calculated about 370W. But with a system with graphics card, atleast 500W PSU is recommended to be future proof.

Thank you all for your swift and documented replays. Really helpful and your links are bookmarked for future use .
I will go with GTX 650 Ti.

All the best!

All the best to your build feel free to ask me any other questions you have. Thanks

 

[Novuake]

PSU's arent 100% efficient.

I think you misunderstand how efficiency works.

Efficiency refers to how little power a PSU takes from the wall COMPARED to what it delivers.

So lets assume we have a true 1000w PSU with a 90% efficiency rating.

To actually deliver 1000w, the PSU would need to draw 1000w + 10% = 1100w from the wall socket.

Makes sense?
Now to get the actual USABLE wattage on a PSU, you would need to take the Amperage on the 12v rails and times it by the 12volt, that gives you the ACTUAL wattage that the PSU can deliver on the 12v rails.

 

[Novuake]

Thank you all for your swift and documented replays. Really helpful and your links are bookmarked for future use .
I will go with GTX 650 Ti.

All the best!

IMPORTANT : Just because your power supply says it deliver 400w, DO NOT believe it.

Post a photo of the spec sticker or use the above method to determine what wattage your power supply really delivers.

 

[Claude3000]

Thank you all for your swift and documented replays. Really helpful and your links are bookmarked for future use .
I will go with GTX 650 Ti.

All the best!

IMPORTANT : Just because your power supply says it deliver 400w, DO NOT believe it.

Post a photo of the spec sticker or use the above method to determine what wattage your power supply really delivers.

I can only post this link. There you can find an identical image of the stiker.
http://www.highpower-tech.com/eng/product_page.php?class=20100527154213&id=20100530203201

 

[Claude3000]

Thank you all for your swift and documented replays. Really helpful and your links are bookmarked for future use .
I will go with GTX 650 Ti.

All the best!

IMPORTANT : Just because your power supply says it deliver 400w, DO NOT believe it.

Post a photo of the spec sticker or use the above method to determine what wattage your power supply really delivers.

Corection! This link has the identical PSU as mine with 80 % efficiency
http://www.highpower-tech.com/eng/product_page.php?class=20100527154213&id=20110523151737

 

[Novuake]

As i suspected. Its a pretty good unit. the 2 12v rails produce up to 432w.

So its techincally more than a 400w unit.

So your good with anything up to an HD7870 or GTX660 with that PSU.

 

[verma1891]

PSU's arent 100% efficient.

I think you misunderstand how efficiency works.

Efficiency refers to how little power a PSU takes from the wall COMPARED to what it delivers.

So lets assume we have a true 1000w PSU with a 90% efficiency rating.

To actually deliver 1000w, the PSU would need to draw 1000w + 10% = 1100w from the wall socket.

Makes sense?
Now to get the actual USABLE wattage on a PSU, you would need to take the Amperage on the 12v rails and times it by the 12volt, that gives you the ACTUAL wattage that the PSU can deliver on the 12v rails.

I understand that, I am an engineer. The power that it takes from the wall socket is lost in the form of heat when the current is converted from alternating to direct, its efficiency means how efficient it is in conversion. What I really wanted to say by "They arent 100% efficient" was That if your system needs 400W, get something like 500W and this was to make the common folks understand