Question Upgrade now or wait?

[ilicmaster]

Hey lads,
I'm planning on getting an upgrade for my PC. I built it in 2020, for sort of a mid-range budget.
Specifications are as follows: RX 570 ASUS ROG STRIX 8GB, Ryzen 5 1600AF, 16GB RAM, 250GB SSD, 1TB HDD, ASUS Prime A320-K.
My question is - should I upgrade now and get a RTX 3070 or 3060 Ti and a good Ryzen 5 or even a R7? I play games like RDR2, Cyberpunk 2077, MSFS, Watch Dogs Legion, FH5, FIFA etc. - all in 1440p.
All opinions are greatly appreciated!

 

[DRagor]

If you play at 2K then upgrading GPU alone should improve your rig considerably. As for CPU upgrade your board supports even certain 5th gen Ryzen so that is also nice option. Now, the next Ryzen generation will not be compatible with that board so if you wait it will be more full rebuild rather then upgrade.

 

[Lutfij]

You need to be a little more specific with your specs. I'm sensing that your ram kit might not be DDR4-3200MHz. If they are you can migrate them to the Ryzen 3000 or 500 series processor upgrade but you're going to have move out of your A320-K onto a B550 chipset. Also, you forgot to mention the make and model of your PSU as well as it's age.

 

[logainofhades]

While even a cheap B550 would be better, than A320, they do not have to change the board, just update the bios.

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A drop in R5 5600x, and a new GPU would breathe new life into that rig. Other option would be to upgrade to an Intel 12th gen. I wouldn't do a rebuild, on an AMD system, as AM4 is a dead end. Make and model of PSU is also something that we need to know, before any upgrades take place. A budget would also be helpful.

 

[Why_Me]

Hey lads,
I'm planning on getting an upgrade for my PC. I built it in 2020, for sort of a mid-range budget.
Specifications are as follows: RX 570 ASUS ROG STRIX 8GB, Ryzen 5 1600AF, 16GB RAM, 250GB SSD, 1TB HDD, ASUS Prime A320-K.
My question is - should I upgrade now and get a RTX 3070 or 3060 Ti and a good Ryzen 5 or even a R7? I play games like RDR2, Cyberpunk 2077, MSFS, Watch Dogs Legion, FH5, FIFA etc. - all in 1440p.
All opinions are greatly appreciated!

What country are you located, what is your budget and what RAM do you presently have atm?

 

[Nighthawk117]

Hey lads,
I'm planning on getting an upgrade for my PC. I built it in 2020, for sort of a mid-range budget.
Specifications are as follows: RX 570 ASUS ROG STRIX 8GB, Ryzen 5 1600AF, 16GB RAM, 250GB SSD, 1TB HDD, ASUS Prime A320-K.
My question is - should I upgrade now and get a RTX 3070 or 3060 Ti and a good Ryzen 5 or even a R7? I play games like RDR2, Cyberpunk 2077, MSFS, Watch Dogs Legion, FH5, FIFA etc. - all in 1440p.
All opinions are greatly appreciated!

You'd benefit to varying degrees in most of those games except FIFA. I guess it depends on how desperate you are for more performance and your willingness to pay the current sticker price of a 3070 or 3060 Ti.

If you were going to do it though, I would get the Ryzen 7 rather than a Ryzen 5. Your board does seem to support them but to be honest you would be better served by a B550 or X570.

 

[ilicmaster]

What country are you located, what is your budget and what RAM do you presently have atm?

Serbia, Europe. My budget is approximately ~1500EUR and I have 16GB.

 

[ilicmaster]

You need to be a little more specific with your specs. I'm sensing that your ram kit might not be DDR4-3200MHz. If they are you can migrate them to the Ryzen 3000 or 500 series processor upgrade but you're going to have move out of your A320-K onto a B550 chipset. Also, you forgot to mention the make and model of your PSU as well as it's age.

I'll be upgrading my PSU, it's a classic 600W one and I'll be getting a Cooler Master 750W, not sure of the name. The PC as a whole is built in 2020, so the PSU is bought then.

RAM is 16GB DIMM DDR4 clocked @ 2666 MHz from Kingston, been using it for my older PC as well, well over 5 years now.

 

[ilicmaster]

If you play at 2K then upgrading GPU alone should improve your rig considerably. As for CPU upgrade your board supports even certain 5th gen Ryzen so that is also nice option. Now, the next Ryzen generation will not be compatible with that board so if you wait it will be more full rebuild rather then upgrade.

Thanks for the help!

 

[ilicmaster]

While even a cheap B550 would be better, than A320, they do not have to change the board, just update the bios.

PRIME A320M-K｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

ASUS Prime series is expertly engineered to unleash the full potential of AMD and Intel processors. Boasting a robust power design, comprehensive cooling solutions and intelligent tuning options, Prime series motherboards provide daily users and DIY PC builders a range of performance tuning...

www.asus.com

A drop in R5 5600x, and a new GPU would breathe new life into that rig. Other option would be to upgrade to an Intel 12th gen. I wouldn't do a rebuild, on an AMD system, as AM4 is a dead end. Make and model of PSU is also something that we need to know, before any upgrades take place. A budget would also be helpful.

As I've mentioned, budget is approx ~ 1500EUR. I was planning on upgrading the MB too - a B550 or a B450 ROG STRIX. PSU is going to be bought as well, and the price of the PSU is not included in the budget - I'll buy that even if the build gets to the approximate budget.

 

[ilicmaster]

You'd benefit to varying degrees in most of those games except FIFA. I guess it depends on how desperate you are for more performance and your willingness to pay the current sticker price of a 3070 or 3060 Ti.

If you were going to do it though, I would get the Ryzen 7 rather than a Ryzen 5. Your board does seem to support them but to be honest you would be better served by a B550 or X570.

Thanks for the help! I'll be upgrading the MB as well. I'm really in need of some performance increase as it's been really hard to play the newest AAA games with even Medium settings.
One thing I also noticed is my GPU is too hot when playing. It comes to high 80s, with the highest being 90C with 100% use on RDR2. Not normal but I'm replacing it anyways.

If anyone could provide me with some more recommendations or tips that'd be great!

 

[Why_Me]

Serbia, Europe. My budget is approximately ~1500EUR and I have 16GB.

https://www.eponuda.com/maticne-ploce-cene/msi-mag-b550-tomahawk-maticna-ploca-cena-523375
MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK 16.087,20 din

https://www.eponuda.com/racunari-pr...-cores-3-7ghz-4-6ghz-box-procesor-cena-560661
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 37.898,40 din

https://www.eponuda.com/graficke-ka...-ventus-3x-8g-oc-graficka-kartica-cena-695520
MSI nVidia GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8GB 256bit VENTUS 3X 8G OC 110.480,00 din

 

[Nighthawk117]

Thanks for the help! I'll be upgrading the MB as well. I'm really in need of some performance increase as it's been really hard to play the newest AAA games with even Medium settings.
One thing I also noticed is my GPU is too hot when playing. It comes to high 80s, with the highest being 90C with 100% use on RDR2. Not normal but I'm replacing it anyways.

If anyone could provide me with some more recommendations or tips that'd be great!

Cyberpunk and RDR2 are a little tough on a RX 570. In terms of the temp of your GPU that is much hotter than I would expect for a RX570, I've found they can run a little warm though with the default fan profile. What case do you and do you have?

 

[Nighthawk117]

I've used the MSI Mag B550 Tomahawk @Why_Me is suggesting, they are very solid boards. You can quite happily put a high end CPU on them.

 

[ilicmaster]

https://www.eponuda.com/maticne-ploce-cene/msi-mag-b550-tomahawk-maticna-ploca-cena-523375
MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK 16.087,20 din

https://www.eponuda.com/racunari-pr...-cores-3-7ghz-4-6ghz-box-procesor-cena-560661
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 37.898,40 din

https://www.eponuda.com/graficke-ka...-ventus-3x-8g-oc-graficka-kartica-cena-695520
MSI nVidia GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8GB 256bit VENTUS 3X 8G OC 110.480,00 din

Thanks a lot! That is well within my budget. Would a motherboard like B550-F Gaming II ROG STRIX be better or it doesn't have much impact performance wise? One more question - is the 16GB DDR4 2666 MHz enough or that should be upgraded to? If so, to what?

 

[logainofhades]

Rebuilding a rig with current gen ryzen, really isn't a great idea. Go with 12th gen, for more upgrade options. Only way I would recommend sticking with AMD, is if you kept your current board, and dropped a 5600x into it. What case do you have, and what fan config? That will determine what cooling options you can choose from.

 

[ilicmaster]

Cyberpunk and RDR2 are a little tough on a RX 570. In terms of the temp of your GPU that is much hotter than I would expect for a RX570, I've found they can run a little warm though with the default fan profile. What case do you and do you have?

The fan profile is default, GPU bought as brand-new and been acting like that since the PC has been put to use. Not sure of the case name and brand but here's the picture. I'm lacking a few coolers which I'll buy when I get the upgrades done.

 

[Nighthawk117]

Thanks a lot! That is well within my budget. Would a motherboard like B550-F Gaming II ROG STRIX be better or it doesn't have much impact performance wise? One more question - is the 16GB DDR4 2666 MHz enough or that should be upgraded to? If so, to what?

It will have no impact performance wise, however the B550-F Strix you mention is also a very good quality board and arguably looks better than the MSI. So if you prefer that it's a solid choice.

 

[ilicmaster]

Rebuilding a rig with current gen ryzen, really isn't a great idea. Go with 12th gen, for more upgrade options. Only way I would recommend sticking with AMD, is if you kept your current board, and dropped a 5600x into it. What case do you have, and what fan config? That will determine what cooling options you can choose from.

Check the reply above. I'm open for even re-building the whole PC if it'll be helpful in the future. Keep in mind I can buy more coolers and it's not an issue. Although, a suggestion as to what to buy would be great. I was thinking of one of the NZXT Kraken series?

 

[ilicmaster]

It will have no impact performance wise, however the B550-F Strix you mention is also a very good quality board and arguably looks better than the MSI. So if you prefer that it's a solid choice.

Understood, much appreciated for the help!

 

[DRagor]

Fully agree with logainofhades - either drop 5600x into existing board or go Intel 12th gen. The additional plus of going Intel is they are not that sensitive to slow RAM so you could easily keep your current RAM - because 2666 for Ryzen is not the greatest.

 

[Why_Me]

Thanks a lot! That is well within my budget. Would a motherboard like B550-F Gaming II ROG STRIX be better or it doesn't have much impact performance wise? One more question - is the 16GB DDR4 2666 MHz enough or that should be upgraded to? If so, to what?

As @logainofhades pointed out, I'd be leaning towards an Intel 12 gen build. Maybe something like this paired with a set of 2x8GB 3200mhz CL16 RAM or 2x8GB of 3600mhz RAM.

https://www.eponuda.com/maticne-ploce-cene/msi-pro-b660m-a-ddr4-maticna-ploca-cena-5346034
MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 19.661,00 din

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4

https://www.eponuda.com/racunari-pr...cesor-6-core-2-50ghz-4-40ghz-box-cena-5231572
Intel Core i5-12400F 25.999,00 din

 

[logainofhades]

Full system build.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (€204.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€69.79 @ Aquatuning)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B660 GAMING X DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€160.89 @ Alternate)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€61.89 @ Alternate)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€96.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: KFA2 GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB (1-Click OC) Video Card (€699.00 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Deepcool MATREXX55-MESH-AR-4F ATX Mid Tower Case (€74.89 @ Alternate)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€96.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1465.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-28 22:31 CET+0100


Reusing your storage and ram, you could do a 12600k.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor (€289.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€69.79 @ Aquatuning)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€192.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: KFA2 GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB (1-Click OC) Video Card (€699.00 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Deepcool MATREXX55-MESH-AR-4F ATX Mid Tower Case (€74.89 @ Alternate)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€96.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1422.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-28 22:33 CET+0100

 

[Nighthawk117]

The fan profile is default, GPU bought as brand-new and been acting like that since the PC has been put to use. Not sure of the case name and brand but here's the picture. I'm lacking a few coolers which I'll buy when I get the upgrades done.

Not sure what case it is, however if you don't have enough airflow the GPU will run hotter. Having two or three front case fans with good airflow should help. The default fan profiles tend to prioritise low noise so it's common for GPU's to run hot unless you change them.

 

[Nighthawk117]

As noted above, the Intel 12th gen chips offer more performance than their AMD equivalents at a similar price point for the CPU. However motherboards tend to be more expensive. If you prefer AMD though then there is nothing wrong with the Zen 3 chips.