Question Upgrade or new build

[ninjastar310]

Hi everyone haven't been in the game in a while and have a couple questions. Just want to say thanks for your guys help.

So here's my current setup
Videocard:gtx780
Mob: Asus maximus IV extreme
Cpu: i5 4670k oc at 4.5 @1.28v
Ram: Ddr3x32gb
Hd: samsun 850 pro 512
Os:64bit windows7

Monitor:
3x 23in monitors (forgot the model but they are at least 60hz and 1080p)

60in 4k tv.

So my computer is running strong still it's just that when I view my home security it takes about 30-40% of my CPU. So I do know I need a new CPU since it is a old.

Another thing to note is that I use to be able to play on 3 screens and now I cant do it since my drivers cant support it.

So here are my question

1- Is it worth upgrading the video card and if so what card would you recommend with out bottlenecking it.

2- New build?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CWMKw6

 

[SgtScream]

If this is for gaming at 1080p 60hz, and you're still getting 60-80fps in your games, then you don't really have to upgrade. What will you use this system for, what games do you like to play and at what graphical detail?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

After reading your post, then clicking the link for the new build, I admittedly laughed out loud I mean that in a good way. Firstly the new build is fricken awesome It's literally THE top end 'gaming' machine one could build (Apart from maybe putting in a RTX2080ti instead of the 2080) I'm salivating thinking about it!

To answer your questions:

1. Yes, that's not a bad option at all. Anything like a RX590/GTX1070/RTX2060 would be pretty good with your current CPU. However, as you've noted and is the case, your CPU is also part of the issue. It's a 4c/4t CPU and it will just max out if gaming is important to you.

2. For what you seem to do, this system is completely overkill for your needs. As SgtScream said what is your main usage? What games do you play? If it's AAA gaming for 1080p x 3, there are much cheaper options which will give you exactly the things you need.

Do you have a budget in mind?

 

[SkyNetRising]

I admittedly laughed out loud I mean that in a good way.

Yeah. Me too.
600$ motherboard and 13 fans is the best part.

 

[ninjastar310]

Haven't gamed in a while but want to get back in and I play almost a little bit of everything. Just that when I tired to play crossout it said my driver for my gtx 780 might not support it and the fact that I cant play on 3 screens like I use to.That's why I was thinking of upgrading to a rtx 2080 so I can future proof it for when I do upgrade to a new build.

The computer runs strong other than the fact that when I run my home security it loads my CPU by 30-40%. So I was thinking of getting a rtx 2060 or 2080 or gtx 1660(don't know which one is worth it and how future proof is it) and a ultra curve screen with multi split features. And then plug my DVR with a multi hdmi splitter and run a cable to the spare monitors.

 

[ninjastar310]

After reading your post, then clicking the link for the new build, I admittedly laughed out loud I mean that in a good way. Firstly the new build is fricken awesome It's literally THE top end 'gaming' machine one could build (Apart from maybe putting in a RTX2080ti instead of the 2080) I'm salivating thinking about it!

To answer your questions:

1. Yes, that's not a bad option at all. Anything like a RX590/GTX1070/RTX2060 would be pretty good with your current CPU. However, as you've noted and is the case, your CPU is also part of the issue. It's a 4c/4t CPU and it will just max out if gaming is important to you.

2. For what you seem to do, this system is completely overkill for your needs. As SgtScream said what is your main usage? What games do you play? If it's AAA gaming for 1080p x 3, there are much cheaper options which will give you exactly the things you need.

Do you have a budget in mind?

In your honest opinion if I were to upgrade the video card which route would be best to future proof it for new build later on.

As for computer use it's a little bit of everything but multitasking since I have 4 screens so movies, home security, solidworks/autocad, and gaming all at the same time.

 

[ninjastar310]

Yeah. Me too.
600$ motherboard and 13 fans is the best part.

Well the case comes with no fans and that's all the fans it takes. As for the mob, I'm use to using the same brand and model if they have it cause it never failed me before xp

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

So, your general usage is pretty much multitasking. Across varying apps used. Your current build isn't well suited, and is just kinda meeting it's limits now. You could get something much less costly, that will do all you want,

The cheapo option would be to stick in nothing more than an RTX2060, otherwise your current system will just bottleneck it in CPU/GPU demanding games like BV1/V, COD WW2/BO4, Destiny 2 etc. For normal games, that aren't too demanding your current set up with an RTX2060 max, will do you just fine. You've a nice OC on the 4670k, which will help negate any potential bottleneck, game dependent.

On the other hand if on the basis you wanted something like your new build, but with cheaper options that get you the same or close performance and 'future proofing' (I personally hate that term, it means nothing in terms of how fast new IP and hardware comes out and supersedes the previous gen.) it's impossible to future proof with how fast the next level is released.

But, with that said, this is wht I'd propose for you.

AMD based system:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($292.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard ($189.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB ARMOR OCV1 Video Card ($464.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - Obsidian Series 1000D ATX Full Tower Case ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($139.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series White 2 pack 52.19 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series White 2 pack 52.19 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2087.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-26 14:43 EDT-0400

Or an Intel system:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($369.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($238.89 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB ARMOR OCV1 Video Card ($464.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - Obsidian Series 1000D ATX Full Tower Case ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($139.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series White 2 pack 52.19 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series White 2 pack 52.19 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2303.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-26 14:49 EDT-0400

Both systems will give you more than you need or want, and will last you at least 2-3 years from a GPU point of view, and longer from a CPU point of view.

 

[ninjastar310]

So, your general usage is pretty much multitasking. Across varying apps used. Your current build isn't well suited, and is just kinda meeting it's limits now. You could get something much less costly, that will do all you want,

The cheapo option would be to stick in nothing more than an RTX2060, otherwise your current system will just bottleneck it in CPU/GPU demanding games like BV1/V, COD WW2/BO4, Destiny 2 etc. For normal games, that aren't too demanding your current set up with an RTX2060 max, will do you just fine. You've a nice OC on the 4670k, which will help negate any potential bottleneck, game dependent.

On the other hand if on the basis you wanted something like your new build, but with cheaper options that get you the same or close performance and 'future proofing' (I personally hate that term, it means nothing in terms of how fast new IP and hardware comes out and supersedes the previous gen.) it's impossible to future proof with how fast the next level is released.

But, with that said, this is wht I'd propose for you.

AMD based system:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($292.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard ($189.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB ARMOR OCV1 Video Card ($464.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - Obsidian Series 1000D ATX Full Tower Case ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($139.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series White 2 pack 52.19 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series White 2 pack 52.19 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2087.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-26 14:43 EDT-0400

Or an Intel system:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($369.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($238.89 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB ARMOR OCV1 Video Card ($464.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - Obsidian Series 1000D ATX Full Tower Case ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($139.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series White 2 pack 52.19 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series White 2 pack 52.19 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2303.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-26 14:49 EDT-0400

Both systems will give you more than you need or want, and will last you at least 2-3 years from a GPU point of view, and longer from a CPU point of view.

I was low key thinking of the 2060 but then if the 2080 GPU can last another 5yrs then it would be worth it just like how the 1080ti.

Would it be worth it to run 2060 with my current setup and wait for the zen 2 to come out??

But overall I was thinking a videocard and monitor and separating my home security to save the cpu. And just waiting for newer CPU. I'm just lost on what would benefit me the most.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Yeah, it's not a bad idea. The 2060 will work well with your current system, just it will bottleneck occasionally. But you won't notice it too much.

Waiting for the next gen to come out isn't a bad idea. Zen 2 will have better efficiency and higher clocks no doubt. So waiting to see what it has to offer over Ryzen 2xxx series.

 

[JJoner]

With a budget like you have in the new build I would drop to a Maximus XI and a cheaper case and get a 2080 ti with money to spare. If you really want the best you can SLI them but that's WAY overkill for pretty much anything.

 

[ninjastar310]

I was thinking about the rtx 2080 ti but couldn't pull the trigger for $500 more for 30%.

But I did pull the trigger on a evga rtx 2080 cc ultra for 700 since it was open box and a
AOC Agon AG241QX...

With everything on full blast everything is running smoothly. Went from 5k to 17k on a bench test. Oc my CPU to a stable 4.6 and little bottle neck in games as far as I can see.

 

[SgtScream]

With that card you should get a 1440p monitor.

 

[ninjastar310]

With that card you should get a 1440p monitor.

The 3 new monitors that I got specs is 2580x1440
144hz
Freesynch but gsyc compatiable.

 

[ninjastar310]

Their are open box rtx2080 at micro center and if someone could give me a legitament reason to upgrade. I might do it lol