- Feb 20, 2016
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Hello all,
First of all allow me to thank you for all your quality advices given throughout the years, your information was so great and accurate that for the last 8 years or so I didn't need to create an account, all the answers were just found here.
But after yesterday's events, even the most valued advice here didn't seem to do the trick in my case.
So here it goes:
{For those unpatient with long babble, please skipt to the bolded areas}
I have a 9 year old PC in which I invested so much at the given time (about 4 incomes) that I want to keep it for another 5 years or so. Anyways, I don't want to sell it or upgrade the motherboard, I just want to beef up this old platform in order to take it to the max, then seal it as is.
My actual config:
MOBO: ASUS M2N 32 SLi Deluxe Wireless Edition
BIOS: v5002 (latest official bios, 2010)
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 5600+ 2.8GHz, Windsor core
COOLER: Scythe Katana 3
RAM: 4x 1GB A-DATA Vitesta Extreme DDR2 800+, EPP
PSU: Corsair TX650W
CASE: LianLi PC-K58, very well cooled
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64
UPGRADING to: Phenom II X4 965 BE Rev. C3
All worked best until a couple of days ago when I managed to find a breaking deal on this latter item.
Yesterday I've opened my case, cleaned it thoroughly, removed the old CPU, cleaned the heatsink, mounted the Phenom, stuck the Katana in place and gave it a go.
I found the CPU correctly named in BIOS, but at 800MHz. No problem here, I managed to apply the modifications which I've read on this forum regarding my mobo vs. cpu case.
So I've:
- Disabled C1E;
- Disabled Cool & Quiet;
- Set the multiplier to 17x;
- Set the core voltage to 1.35V.
After the restart I was brought to tears (of joy) by the first show of the CPU Information tab, in which my Phenom was seen at 3.4GHz. I really really enjoyed seeing that frequency on this old rig.
Started Windows normally, waited for the CPU drivers to install, gave it a restart, then reentered Windows normally.
Refreshed the WEI and I nearly made a heart attack seeing that the CPU Mark from 5.7 or so (from the old Athlon) dropped to a CPU WEI of 3.7. I nearly fainted.
I checked the Device Manager status and the CPU was being seen at the correct value: 3.4GHz.
My opinion changed when I downloaded CPU-Z and saw the details in the picture below.
Core Freq: 800MHz
Multiplier: 4x (17-17) {what does this 17-17 mean??}
TDP: 65W {the CPU is probably 125W from what I've read}
How come a Motherboard with official support for Phenom 955 and capable of a TDP of 125W (stated for other CPU's in the support list) cannot withstand a same generation 45nm CPU??
If it sees it ok as description in the BIOS, why can't it manage it ?
What workarounds I've tried:
- Decreasing and increasing CPU Core Voltage, from 1.2 to 1.5V. No Success.
- Disabled SLI-Ready Memory.
- Giving voltages to CPU -> NB, NB -> SB with values seen here on the forum. No success.
- Installing nVidia System Tools. It sees the CPU at 3.4GHz but most of the fields are gray there, even if I accepted the License Agreement. I mean there's no info to go on for modifying something in there.
My requests:
What am I doing wrong?
Is there any official rellevant information about strictly this CPU not being supported by that mobo?
Can someone explain why this is happenning? I might not be a computer scientist, but as an electronical engineer I'll give my best to understand why the bloody hell any other Phenom II will work and this not.
Giving the fact the CPU is very stable in this form (ran Mersenne Prime 95 for about 1h with a max temp of 55'C on the stressed CPU), can I at least use a smaller multiplier to at least make it work at 3.0GHz ? (I didn't try it yet, it crossed my mind later).
Thank you for your patience.
And no, I really really don't want to upgrade the mobo because I'm very fond of this flagship for which I've payed a whole lot of money back then. I really want to use it until it bricks.
And the second reason is that I've already bought two nVidia 8800 Ultra and waiting to get the SLi taste. I've read It's the single board with DDR2 that can do a full 16x 16x SLi support.
Cheers.
First of all allow me to thank you for all your quality advices given throughout the years, your information was so great and accurate that for the last 8 years or so I didn't need to create an account, all the answers were just found here.
But after yesterday's events, even the most valued advice here didn't seem to do the trick in my case.
So here it goes:
{For those unpatient with long babble, please skipt to the bolded areas}
I have a 9 year old PC in which I invested so much at the given time (about 4 incomes) that I want to keep it for another 5 years or so. Anyways, I don't want to sell it or upgrade the motherboard, I just want to beef up this old platform in order to take it to the max, then seal it as is.
My actual config:
MOBO: ASUS M2N 32 SLi Deluxe Wireless Edition
BIOS: v5002 (latest official bios, 2010)
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 5600+ 2.8GHz, Windsor core
COOLER: Scythe Katana 3
RAM: 4x 1GB A-DATA Vitesta Extreme DDR2 800+, EPP
PSU: Corsair TX650W
CASE: LianLi PC-K58, very well cooled
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64
UPGRADING to: Phenom II X4 965 BE Rev. C3
All worked best until a couple of days ago when I managed to find a breaking deal on this latter item.
Yesterday I've opened my case, cleaned it thoroughly, removed the old CPU, cleaned the heatsink, mounted the Phenom, stuck the Katana in place and gave it a go.
I found the CPU correctly named in BIOS, but at 800MHz. No problem here, I managed to apply the modifications which I've read on this forum regarding my mobo vs. cpu case.
So I've:
- Disabled C1E;
- Disabled Cool & Quiet;
- Set the multiplier to 17x;
- Set the core voltage to 1.35V.
After the restart I was brought to tears (of joy) by the first show of the CPU Information tab, in which my Phenom was seen at 3.4GHz. I really really enjoyed seeing that frequency on this old rig.
Started Windows normally, waited for the CPU drivers to install, gave it a restart, then reentered Windows normally.
Refreshed the WEI and I nearly made a heart attack seeing that the CPU Mark from 5.7 or so (from the old Athlon) dropped to a CPU WEI of 3.7. I nearly fainted.
I checked the Device Manager status and the CPU was being seen at the correct value: 3.4GHz.
My opinion changed when I downloaded CPU-Z and saw the details in the picture below.
Core Freq: 800MHz
Multiplier: 4x (17-17) {what does this 17-17 mean??}
TDP: 65W {the CPU is probably 125W from what I've read}
How come a Motherboard with official support for Phenom 955 and capable of a TDP of 125W (stated for other CPU's in the support list) cannot withstand a same generation 45nm CPU??
If it sees it ok as description in the BIOS, why can't it manage it ?
What workarounds I've tried:
- Decreasing and increasing CPU Core Voltage, from 1.2 to 1.5V. No Success.
- Disabled SLI-Ready Memory.
- Giving voltages to CPU -> NB, NB -> SB with values seen here on the forum. No success.
- Installing nVidia System Tools. It sees the CPU at 3.4GHz but most of the fields are gray there, even if I accepted the License Agreement. I mean there's no info to go on for modifying something in there.
My requests:
What am I doing wrong?
Is there any official rellevant information about strictly this CPU not being supported by that mobo?
Can someone explain why this is happenning? I might not be a computer scientist, but as an electronical engineer I'll give my best to understand why the bloody hell any other Phenom II will work and this not.
Giving the fact the CPU is very stable in this form (ran Mersenne Prime 95 for about 1h with a max temp of 55'C on the stressed CPU), can I at least use a smaller multiplier to at least make it work at 3.0GHz ? (I didn't try it yet, it crossed my mind later).
Thank you for your patience.
And no, I really really don't want to upgrade the mobo because I'm very fond of this flagship for which I've payed a whole lot of money back then. I really want to use it until it bricks.
And the second reason is that I've already bought two nVidia 8800 Ultra and waiting to get the SLi taste. I've read It's the single board with DDR2 that can do a full 16x 16x SLi support.
Cheers.
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