Upgrade to 4K HDR- without replacing AVR : How to get 5.1 directional surround sound to work in Gaming on multiple systems???

[Ransome]

So today I am using:
PIONEER VSX-823-K AV RECEIVER.
It serves as a hub for my 2 consoles (PS3, PS4 PRO), cable box and my Gaming PC.
All connected via HDMI and a single HDMI OUT cable connects to the TV HDMI 2 ARC.
My TV is Samsung 1080p 55" UA55D6400.
My GPUs are 2 GTX 980 SLI.

I have researched upgrading my TV to 4K 65" and I decided to go with either LG B6 (Y) or Samsung KS8000.

LG B6 seems to be the best most state of the art cutting edge TV for Gaming as of this date 2017.
Especially with the amazing OLED perfect blacks and vivid colors, and zero motion blur and ghosting.

Now here's the biggest issue.
My current AVR HDMI setup won't work with 4K HDR if I am not mistaken.

Buying a new AVR that supports HDCP 2.2 and HDMI 2.0B will cost a fortune. About 4500 ILS when LG B6 costs around 20,000 ILS. (Israel currency).

I wanted to ask - will that be a viable option to use Optical Audio Fiber/Cable - instead of HDMI- and then use my current AVR as Audio Only by sending the Audio back from my TV to my AVR through the Optical Audio cable?
Will I get the same lossless highly quality audio?
Will I still have 5.1 surround on my PC, PS4 PRO and PS3?
Can i watch 60fps 4K HDR like this?
Is there any way to do so with HDMI instead?

Is there any other way I can guarantee having full support for: 4K (3840 X 2160) HDR + 60HZ (60FPS gaming) + 5.1 full surround sound?

The biggest thing holding me back from upgrading to 4K TV now is the dilemma and lack of certainty I have about needing to buy a brand new super expensive AV Receiver!

I don't have have a clue what AVR to buy to get full support and most of the special sellers here in Israel doesn't know either.

If I can somehow skip replacing my AVR and suffer no loss of audio quality or visual/audio/performance difference - and still enjoy 4K HDR 60HZ at it's fullest- I would be very happy.

Please help with as much detail and clarity as possible. I am not an expert and this is very confusing. Thanks!

 

[thinkspeak]

I'm deciding between the two but yeah an audio cable will be just fine. Just check to see which ports are specific to pc. I think with those they have specific ports for pc. I'm not certain but I think hdr might be enabled on all ports but they may not. Check it trusted reviews, look up their name, and they have a ton of info and tests

 

[thinkspeak]

Sorry I meant rtings

 

[Ransome]

I'm deciding between the two but yeah an audio cable will be just fine. Just check to see which ports are specific to pc. I think with those they have specific ports for pc. I'm not certain but I think hdr might be enabled on all ports but they may not. Check it trusted reviews, look up their name, and they have a ton of info and tests

Oops, accidentally down-voted your message.
Thanks for the answer, I still have one issue I can't figure out, which is - will 5.1 surround actually work.

If I connect all my systems: PS4, PS3, PC, misc - directly to my TV HDMI Ports - and then connect the TV via its Optical Audio, like you can see here (taken from this article):

Will I still get 5.1 Surround in gaming with all 3 gaming systems?
Meaning actual 5.1 directional surround audio:
So for example, if the sound comes from behind your character - it will actually come from the rear speakers, etc.

Because, unlike some other cases, I'm not going to connect my PS4 or my PC directly to the AVR with Optical.
Instead I'll connect all gaming platforms - to the TV with HDMI cables - then connect the TV itself with a single Optical Audio cable directly to the AVR.
So the TV does all the image processing work, no filtering involved, and transfers the audio back to my AVR which produces sound to my 5.1 system.
But will the TV "know" how to deliver 5.1 true directional surround audio- whether I play on my PC at one moment- or the PS4 at another?

And how exactly do I set it up on the PS4 and the PC sound settings?
The PS4 Sound Settings offers either HDMI or Optical Option, but I think you need to connect the optical directly.

*sigh*... complicated..

[UPDATE: I'm currently leaning toward buying the KS8000 either 60 or 65, but it seems 65 isn't imported to my country at all.
LG B6 OLED is quite expensive: I can either get the 55" B6 Y for the price of KS8000 60", or B6 Y 65" for about double the price.
Would appreciate recommendations too.]

 

[Dragos Manea]

Your conectivity is correct, dont worry about 5.1, the number of channel you transmit to the tv is forwarded to the av receiver throught the optical fiber cable. Also any good av receiver should have 5.1 emulation and various technologies like DTS, dolby digital suround etc.

 

[thinkspeak]

With optical you will be fine with 5.1
As for the two, the k series has motion blur and is edge lit. The oleds however don't take 4.4.4 4k at 60hz as far as I know

 

[Ransome]

With optical you will be fine with 5.1
As for the two, the k series has motion blur and is edge lit. The oleds however don't take 4.4.4 4k at 60hz as far as I know

Thank you both.
Sounds great. Already brought a good Optical cable for my future setup.

What's Edge Lit exactly abd how's that a problem/advantage?
What's 4:4:4 email exactly and when is it utilized if at all? Does it affect PS or PC gaming at all?
Currently trying ti make up ny mind between KS8000 or LG B6
But there are some things troubling me:

LG:
Pros:
Best Gaming 4K HDR TV money can buy.
OLED: supposedly blows all the competition out.
No Motion Blur - at all. Zero Motion is something unparalleled in screen tech.
Perfect blacks.
State of the art technology that's possibly the future of screens.

Cons:
Image Retention- this frighten me the most. The notion of burn in even temporary and having to worry about it all the time. Games have hud and you pause them many times: every time you go to take a break, bathroom, eat dinner, or even make a phone call or chat- will you get ghost like IR all over? (Because you pause). Dealing with clearing IR and worrying about it sounds time consuming and distracting.
OLED life expectancy might be not long lasting due to IR issues?
Lower Brightness and HDR
Price
Design is not as slick- not flat in an even way
Some input lag in HDR gaming, not too bad after updates.

KS8000:
Best Gaming 4 HDR TV outside OLED.
King of LED TVs
Possibly best motion blur for TVs of theae caliber
Best Input Lag on HDR Gaming.
Best Brightness and HDR.
Very vivid.
Slick flat design with a surface flat all the way down. Very thin.
HDMI ports seperated and located on a box: con or pro.
Can't beat the quality at this price.
It's freaking Samsung.

Cons:
Not OLED.
Motion Blur
Edge Lit
Not the best viewing angles
Only 60 or 65 curve. Want to enlarge frm my current 55".
We only got the KS8000 60" here. Thr 8500 65".
Also got the LG B6 (Y) 55" and 65".

Need help deciding.

 

[thinkspeak]

Edge lot is exactly what it sounds like, the screen is lit from an edge which means if there is a dark area along the lit edge and a bright spot on the other side you will get a light streak.

4.4.4 is the full color space of a pc input and it will affect your pc gaming, but with the lg I think it's only hdr 444 it has issue with for some reason. This may be an issue I'm not sure.

I'm personally stuck between the c6 and the k8500 and even j8500 since it has 3d hdr but no quantum dots. I've heard both screens are good, maybe find a place with a good return exchange policy and try both?

 

[Ransome]

Edge lot is exactly what it sounds like, the screen is lit from an edge which means if there is a dark area along the lit edge and a bright spot on the other side you will get a light streak.

4.4.4 is the full color space of a pc input and it will affect your pc gaming, but with the lg I think it's only hdr 444 it has issue with for some reason. This may be an issue I'm not sure.

I'm personally stuck between the c6 and the k8500 and even j8500 since it has 3d hdr but no quantum dots. I've heard both screens are good, maybe find a place with a good return exchange policy and try both?

No such think here in Israel.
Reading and watching Rtingsreview and reading numerous threads about the LG B6 - It seems like the best TV money can buy.
Almost everything (aside from the price) is perfect - except 1 seemingly major issues: IMAGE RETENTION.
IR is worrying me like crazy. If not for IR I would have little second thoughts here.
Sounds terrible for Gaming (whether it's monitor use, pc games and ps4 games). I am worried that IR will ruin the experience and makes me deal with it every hour, every moment. Even a few minutes of static image causes a thick IR issue. But I am not sure how server it is.
What happens if I play FF abd press Options to pause the game and return minutes or hours later?
What happens if the desktop is display statically for a few minutes as I go to the BR or make a phone call... how fast does the IR disappear and how noticleable is it on normal use and image/video?
The Rtingd review show hoe you can see a ghost silhouette of a window in Windows that was left for 5 minutes - when they switch to full screen gray. Supposedly it disappear after a while?
But how does it look on a normal image/video like when you resume desktop use or game?
Games have tons of static elements and i also pause a lot when chatting or searching the Web on the phone etc.

However, if you read Samsung KS8000 vs LG B6 topics (Google it) everyone say how the difference is night and day in favor of LG. How it blows all the competition out of the water. How nothing gets remotely near it and there's no comparison, etc etc.

Other things that trouble me- not as much- are the so called no 4:4:4 HDR 4K GAME MODE option. What does that mean? No HDR in PC gaming at all? (OBDUCTION has HDR), or higher input lag?
No motion blur sounds might fantastic. Probably a deal breaker for me, because that is what has been bugging me for years with my current Samsung TV.
Some say it can look like a judder though.
Finally weaker brightness and that auto dim of the screen sounds weird a bit.

Samsung has motion blur. But supposedly very good.
In Israel they only sell the 60" KS8000 not the 65". I can get the 65 only as KS8500 which is an option alright. Not sure how good ir bad the curve is for gaming and how it looks from the digonal sides. Or how bad it looks on the wall when mounted.
Amazing brightness and overall no weakness aside from worse image at angle and local dimming beaing weaker. But it's not OLED.

Yet not having to worry about IR all the time. Having better brightness and knowing I have the best LED on the planet, and stuff - makes me think Sam KS might be better for Gamers.
Can't make my mind

If I go OLED- will I regret?
And if I go KS - will the curve be bad? Because I want to leap from 55 to 65.

 

[Ransome]

Edge lot is exactly what it sounds like, the screen is lit from an edge which means if there is a dark area along the lit edge and a bright spot on the other side you will get a light streak.

4.4.4 is the full color space of a pc input and it will affect your pc gaming, but with the lg I think it's only hdr 444 it has issue with for some reason. This may be an issue I'm not sure.

I'm personally stuck between the c6 and the k8500 and even j8500 since it has 3d hdr but no quantum dots. I've heard both screens are good, maybe find a place with a good return exchange policy and try both?

What did you end up getting? What size and model are you looking for? Or are you still pondering this like me.
I'm correctly stuck between KS 8500 65" (wanted KS 8000 65 but they only sell 60 here) and LG B6 65" which costs about 50% more and waiting for newer models of either QLED or OLED. Don't feel like waiting.

 

[thinkspeak]

Edge lot is exactly what it sounds like, the screen is lit from an edge which means if there is a dark area along the lit edge and a bright spot on the other side you will get a light streak.

4.4.4 is the full color space of a pc input and it will affect your pc gaming, but with the lg I think it's only hdr 444 it has issue with for some reason. This may be an issue I'm not sure.

I'm personally stuck between the c6 and the k8500 and even j8500 since it has 3d hdr but no quantum dots. I've heard both screens are good, maybe find a place with a good return exchange policy and try both?

What did you end up getting? What size and model are you looking for? Or are you still pondering this like me.
I'm correctly stuck between KS 8500 65" (wanted KS 8000 65 but they only sell 60 here) and LG B6 65" which costs about 50% more and waiting for newer models of either QLED or OLED. Don't feel like waiting.

I decided to go with the 8500. It has all the features I want and its at a very manageable price right now, about 800 at a local shop. The C6 looks great but I figured Ill probably get another Tv in like 5 years or less and by then OLEDs should not only be cheaper but more feature rich. Plus the C6 may looks amazing in a dark room and all but I wouldnt say twice the price good. Not to mention the samsung is pretty close the C6 color wise and has higher peak brightness which is great for hdr stuff. I know the OLEDs have perfect contrasts but yeah image retention is not something I want to deal with since Ill be using my PC on this as well. Id want the 3d feature of the c6 but hardly anything supports it anymore.
Plus I have an S7 so being able to cast from my phone like its an extra remote is nice.

 

[thinkspeak]

Also Im gonna run my audio over Fiber Optic. Im gonna have all my 1080 non HDR stuff go to the receiver then into the TV. ANything 4k or hdr capable is going directly into the TV =.

 

[Ransome]

Edge lot is exactly what it sounds like, the screen is lit from an edge which means if there is a dark area along the lit edge and a bright spot on the other side you will get a light streak.

4.4.4 is the full color space of a pc input and it will affect your pc gaming, but with the lg I think it's only hdr 444 it has issue with for some reason. This may be an issue I'm not sure.

I'm personally stuck between the c6 and the k8500 and even j8500 since it has 3d hdr but no quantum dots. I've heard both screens are good, maybe find a place with a good return exchange policy and try both?

What did you end up getting? What size and model are you looking for? Or are you still pondering this like me.
I'm correctly stuck between KS 8500 65" (wanted KS 8000 65 but they only sell 60 here) and LG B6 65" which costs about 50% more and waiting for newer models of either QLED or OLED. Don't feel like waiting.

I decided to go with the 8500. It has all the features I want and its at a very manageable price right now, about 800 at a local shop. The C6 looks great but I figured Ill probably get another Tv in like 5 years or less and by then OLEDs should not only be cheaper but more feature rich. Plus the C6 may looks amazing in a dark room and all but I wouldnt say twice the price good. Not to mention the samsung is pretty close the C6 color wise and has higher peak brightness which is great for hdr stuff. I know the OLEDs have perfect contrasts but yeah image retention is not something I want to deal with since Ill be using my PC on this as well. Id want the 3d feature of the c6 but hardly anything supports it anymore.
Plus I have an S7 so being able to cast from my phone like its an extra remote is nice.

Sounds like a smart well thought decision.
What size are you getting at 800$?

I managed to squeeze the seller here down even further to the very minimum for the LG B6 65".
However your message got me thinking. Starting to feel the same way here.

Samsung Q7 Rtings.com review seems to point out quite blatantly that Samsung KS8000/8500 is significantly superior in picture quality and performance for a much cheaper price!
Which makes me feel like getting the 2016 Samsung models now is the very best way of approach and you get a better TV for a lower cost.

The LG B6 has the best picture quality overall, but OLED has still quite a few issues and a room to improve, while on the other hand- Samsung seemingly mastered LED display technology with the KS 8000/8500.
So buying the KS8 series is more reassuring and safer in a way.

I just wonder if I can get the 8500 65 inch for a much lower price than the LG B6.. The price difference here is only- less than 50% more for the B6.

Edit:
Ok, that didn't go as well as hoped.
Seller refused to lower the price offered to me further:
For the Samsung KS 8500 65" he offers 11,500 ILS + 200 ils to enlarge warranty from 1 yr to 4.
For LG the price was lowered to 17,000. 3 yr warranty. Which is only 45% more.

Was hoping to lower the price of the 8500 to 11K, damn.
Now I just don't know what to choose.
Perhaps it's worth paying that extra coin for the LG.
The main things holding me back from LG are: image Retention issues, lower brightness, and knowing B7 is releasing soon that will be a little better in specs (25% better brightness, more hdr modes) but will cost a lot more though. Although it could be worse for gaming.
I'm very curious about OLED though -and want to see it in gaming action.
However it's possible be that Samsung KS 8500 performers and looks better with gaming.

What do you suggest?

 

[thinkspeak]

I managed to talk to my local tv guy and they came down to a price that was only 25% more than the ks8500 for a b6. I decided to take the b6 once he did, and only after sitting the two screens side by side watching the same content. It's hard to really compare the two in low light environment in the sense anytime there was something black the Samsung was dark grey while the b6 was a pure black.
Where I have my tv it's generally dim so brightness isn't a big issue and I have dark curtains for light control.
Gaming wise, in the b6 playing BF1 I still get excellent scores and my games look better even without hdr enabled. Same with my movies, the color on the oled with its deep blacks seem to make all off my content have more depth and presence. Even my 1080p blue rays have more vibrancy. And that's with all of the enhancement features off. Plus the amount of control over the image is nice but plan on spending and time calibrating your display.

 

[Ransome]

I managed to talk to my local tv guy and they came down to a price that was only 25% more than the ks8500 for a b6. I decided to take the b6 once he did, and only after sitting the two screens side by side watching the same content. It's hard to really compare the two in low light environment in the sense anytime there was something black the Samsung was dark grey while the b6 was a pure black.
Where I have my tv it's generally dim so brightness isn't a big issue and I have dark curtains for light control.
Gaming wise, in the b6 playing BF1 I still get excellent scores and my games look better even without hdr enabled. Same with my movies, the color on the oled with its deep blacks seem to make all off my content have more depth and presence. Even my 1080p blue rays have more vibrancy. And that's with all of the enhancement features off. Plus the amount of control over the image is nice but plan on spending and time calibrating your display.

Wow, you already have your TV installed and playing games with? Congrats!
Which size did you get, and for what price?
Surprised you actually took the B6 in the end, nice.
How about the zero motion blur and perfect 0.1ms response times? Having no motion blur at all is one of the main reasons I decided to go with OLED. Motion blur was the main issue I had with my TV and it's actually a common LCD/LED panel issue.

After almost going with with Samsung KS 8500 - my heart went with LG B6.
Honestly I couldn't compare them side by side because 1- they were like 10 meters apart in a random store I checked up. And 2- they were displaying different promotional footage.

My room isn't too dark either. And honestly I doubt the new TV is less bright than my current old (albeit really really awesome )1080p Samsung LED 3D TV. I also have blank curtains. There's no real window casting lights on the TV from the front, only very partially from the side (which can be easily closed) and side-behind coming from the rear exit of the room which can be covered by two doors and curtains. Plus, I often play with the lights turned off, and room all dark or after sunset/night.
Was brightness (OLED light) any issue for you?

It's decided, tomorrow I am buying the LG B6!
Doubt I can talk down the prices any further. Can't beat your price either or the US prices. This TV cost 2-3 times more here in Israel than the US.
Hopefully the delivery will arrive early before the holiday. Will update soon.

Tell me more about the TV please.
Have you noticed or been bothered with any Image Retention Issues? What about HDR and Game mode performance? What are you using the TV with? What's your basic PC specs?

I'm mainly going to use it with my PS4PRO, but also with my PC.
With only x2 SLI GTX 980- and limited SLI support- guessing I will play some games at 1440p or even 1080p - and only a few at actual 4K. Good thing is that 1080p should look terrific on that high quality 4K so I bet 2560×1440/2K should look even better.
However in the future when I buy a new single GPU or build a new rig 4K will be more plausible.
For now I plan to enjoy it with the awesome 2017 PS4 titles and more.

 

[Ransome]

Also Im gonna run my audio over Fiber Optic. Im gonna have all my 1080 non HDR stuff go to the receiver then into the TV. ANything 4k or hdr capable is going directly into the TV =.

Now that you mention it, how exactly is this done, can you explain the process and connectivity?
The B6 has 4 HDMI ports: 2 on the rear, 2 on the side.
Dunno about you, but I have 4 HDMI devices: PC, PS4 PRO, PS3 Slim, and a cable-box (TV channels). At first I thought I need to connect all 4 devices to my 4 HDMI slots, like I posted above in the picture, and then connect the TV itself with Optical Audio cable to the AVR.
However, I much rather connect only the PC and PS4 PRO directly with my TV, and the 2 other devices to my Receiver - to save both cable clutter - since my TV will be wall-mounted - and ports on the TV.

So how is this going to work exactly, without creating some circular conflict?
I assume I need to have 2 HDMI cables coming from 2 HDMI-IN slots on the AVR, connecting to the PS3 and cable-box. Then 1 HDMI cable coming out of the HDMI-OUT of the AVR - connecting to 1 of the TV's HDMI. Transmitting both audio and video.
Does it have to be HDMI (ARC)?
Then, the PS4 and PC will be connected directly to 2 other HDMI slots. Leaving 1 slot free.
So, 3 HDMI slots of the TV should be occupied with HDMI cables.
In total: 3 HDMI cables, 1 Optical Audio cable and 1 power cable- will all come out of the TV (in terms of cable management)?
Thank you, and sorry for the many questions

UPDATE: Bought the OLED B6 65 today!

 

[thinkspeak]

Now that you mention it, how exactly is this done, can you explain the process and connectivity?
I'll have the pc and my one s in the side ports and my ps4 and switch go into the receiver then into the tv with a 90 degree HDMI adapter. I have the optical from the tv to the receiver and I'll set the receiver to a specific input for that and when I use the my devices that are on the receiver it'll strip the audio before it gets to the tv.


So how is this going to work exactly, without creating some circular conflict?
I assume I need to have 2 HDMI cables coming from 2 HDMI-IN slots on the AVR, connecting to the PS3 and cable-box. Then 1 HDMI cable coming out of the HDMI-OUT of the AVR - connecting to 1 of the TV's HDMI. Transmitting both audio and video. So yeah pretty.much what you described lol.

I paid 1050 USD for the Oled

UPDATE: Bought the OLED B6 65 today!

Congrats, I'm sure you'll love it.

As fur the burn in, no issue with games I've played so far and I have seen zero burn in. Motion blur is wonderful but what really shines is the depth of color in my games.

As for lag time, I played BF1 on all kinds of settings and didn't feel it at all. At least not according to my scores lol.

 

[Ransome]

I'll have the pc and my one s in the side ports and my ps4 and switch go into the receiver then into the tv with a 90 degree HDMI adapter. I have the optical from the tv to the receiver and I'll set the receiver to a specific input for that and when I use the my devices that are on the receiver it'll strip the audio before it gets to the tv.
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Great, got it right, thanks.
What do you mean by specific input? Do you mean you will switch to HDMI 3/4 source (on TV)?
(Btw wouldn't it be better to connect the PS4 to the AVR directly though? Even standard PS4 supports HDR).
I guess the receiver/TV knows when to stop using the Optical and use the HDMI passthrough instead from the AVR. But wouldn't you need to go to the TV sound settings everytime to switch from optical to HDMI and vice versa?

Also, What do you need the 90 degree hdmi adapter for? You think HDMIs will get bent and damaged when connected to the back ports?

I also thought about connecting my PS4 PRO and PC to the side ports directly and then the Receiver to HDMI 3 on the rear. So, you think I should get one as well?


I paid 1050 USD for the Oled
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That's a killer price. Was that a new model? Nice.


As fur the burn in, no issue with games I've played so far and I have seen zero burn in. Motion blur is wonderful but what really shines is the depth of color in my games.

As for lag time, I played BF1 on all kinds of settings and didn't feel it at all. At least not according to my scores lol.
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Absolutely awesome! Really good news. So good to hear that about IR/Burn-In not being noticeable and all the good things about the image quality and motion!!
Do you play your BF1 on PC or XB1S?
What Graphics Card do you use with the 4K screen?
With my 980 SLI - I don't expect to play many games at all with 4K because of how very heavy and unstable it is on performance FPS, and since SLI is often not supported.

However I can probably play all games at at least 1440p (2560x1440) which should hopefully look great, at least until I will buy a need GPU/PC Build. Think I want to skip the 1080Ti and wait for Zolta 2080 or 2080Ti even.
It's just that there aren't many demanding PC games coming out anytime soon,

 

[Ransome]

Hey there.
Still waiting for that 4K TV getting going to be about 8 days since I ordered it when it arrives this Wednesday. Can't wait!

Have you figured out what's the deal with latency and Chroma 4:4:4 +HDR+Game Mode?

Also what kind of Resolutions and Refresh Rate do you get with your PC and the B6?
4K 60MHz or 120MHz?

Have you tried playing PC games at less than 4K like 1080/1440p? Wonder if it still looks good with the LG B6's upscaling.
Appreciate the insight.

 

[thinkspeak]

Hey there.
Still waiting for that 4K TV getting going to be about 8 days since I ordered it when it arrives this Wednesday. Can't wait!

Have you figured out what's the deal with latency and Chroma 4:4:4 +HDR+Game Mode?

as far as I know its a software situation, but it may not be, could be the chip they are using. You should be fine on single player games but with online shooters Im not super sure but you might want to play those on a console. Which might be better anyways due to typically larger player bases.

Also what kind of Resolutions and Refresh Rate do you get with your PC and the B6?
4K 60MHz or 120MHz?

4k60hz, 120hz would need hdmi 2.1 which I think may be on the 2017 model or maybe the 2018

Have you tried playing PC games at less than 4K like 1080/1440p? Wonder if it still looks good with the LG B6's upscaling.
Appreciate the insight.

Ive played 1080p movies and games and the images just pop so much compared to LCD, the upscaling is fine but just keep an eye on your effects settings. Some make movies look way better and others worse. Id recommend using dejudder and clear motion at settings of one when watching movies. The rapid response time makes judder really obvious in panning shots. Again though literally everything Ive watched just looks simply better, even when I play my switch on it, Zeldas colors has so much pop and depth especially with dynamic contrast on.

 

[Ransome]

Hey there.
Still waiting for that 4K TV getting going to be about 8 days since I ordered it when it arrives this Wednesday. Can't wait!

Have you figured out what's the deal with latency and Chroma 4:4:4 +HDR+Game Mode?

as far as I know its a software situation, but it may not be, could be the chip they are using. You should be fine on single player games but with online shooters Im not super sure but you might want to play those on a console. Which might be better anyways due to typically larger player bases.

Also what kind of Resolutions and Refresh Rate do you get with your PC and the B6?
4K 60MHz or 120MHz?

4k60hz, 120hz would need hdmi 2.1 which I think may be on the 2017 model or maybe the 2018

Have you tried playing PC games at less than 4K like 1080/1440p? Wonder if it still looks good with the LG B6's upscaling.
Appreciate the insight.

Ive played 1080p movies and games and the images just pop so much compared to LCD, the upscaling is fine but just keep an eye on your effects settings. Some make movies look way better and others worse. Id recommend using dejudder and clear motion at settings of one when watching movies. The rapid response time makes judder really obvious in panning shots. Again though literally everything Ive watched just looks simply better, even when I play my switch on it, Zeldas colors has so much pop and depth especially with dynamic contrast on.

Hey Thinkspeak, I need your help, I have 2 major problems with the B6. So bad that I consider returning it and asking for a refund.
1st - is that I can't get it to play sound with Optical Audio cable. Which was the concern I posted about.
I connected my PS4Pro to HDMI 1, my PC to HDMI 2 (ARC) (although it is not connected yet), and my AVR (which has a PS3 and cable-box connected to) to HDMI 3.
I connected a single Optical Audio cable, of high quality I believe, from my TV Optical Audio Out to my AVR's Optical slot.
Set my TV to "Audio Out HDMI ARC/ Optical" or whatever it is called.
My TV turns the Rec on and off, and linked with sound control - but it just won't make a single sound.
Total silence!
I think the issue is that the Receiver is "playing" what it has on the "TV" channel.

My Receiver is Pioneer VSX 823-K - damn piece of junk in terms of software and accessibility. Regret buying it, but when it works it works well. Googled this for hours yesterday and not a single word on how to FORCE my AVR to use Optical instead of HDMI.
Please help me with this - I have no idea what to do or how to use Optical at all!


2nd issue- well, my PS4 Pro simply displays blank black image.
It has something to do with 2160p RGB + HDR + HDCP 2.2. The moment RGB and 2.2 HDCP works - it's a black screen. I have spent over 12 hours yesterday on this, going constantly into safe mode to get picture. Totally clueless, worked with some cables and some times, then it didn't. My cables are all brand new and fine. Turns out many users having this issue.

 

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I need help.
The Optical Setup we talked about isn't working with my 4K OLED B6 TV!!

Got my screen to work for now, and found that the only way to have my optical audio working is via source CD - and ONLY that. And set it with Signal Select to Op1. Then I get sound but only Stereo!!!

Can't get 5.1 surround to work. This was supposed to work, I did everything according to the guidlines...

 

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Hey there! Good news ! I managed ro get this to work with either Optical or HDMI Arc (while on a separate channel) and get 5.1 Surround Sound with Bitstream DTS or DD.
Not sure which one I will pick yet.
Also solved the image issues. Will elaborate on both things laer perhaps.

I got a question:
What must I do exactly to get 5.1 surround sound with my PC now? Which is connected directly to HDMI 3 (changed it to 3 so that my AvR is connected ti HDMI2 ARC). How do I set my Windows > Sound Settings > Speakers Configuration exactly?
Will I be able to set it there to 5.1 - even though the TV itself is basically stero? Will it recognize my 5.1.speaker system and offer that option even though my TV will be connected with Optical (or ARC) and my AVR will NOT be an HD HUD this time?

 

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Ok - managed to get the 5.1 Audio using Bitstream DD or DTS with either Optical or HDMI ARC but only on the consoles - PC which is connected directly to my TV only detects 2.0 Stereo sound! Can't use my PC with surround 5.1 sound system. Sounds like I must buy a new HDCP 2.2 4K Av Receiver.... I suspected this would be an issue...

Also if I set my port to Ultra HD Deep Color screen will flicker crazily especially with RGB and Limited/Full. Can't fix both issues.