Upgrade to I5 8400 or I3 8100?

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Unless you're going to upgrade that GPU soon-ish, just go for the i5.

In doing any budget build with an eye for future upgrades, you're going to want to prioritize your budget so that by the time you come back to upgrade one of the component that you neglected when you started the build, there won't be even more components becoming outdated and further increasing the total upgrade cost.
 
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So if I get the I5, I can stop using the R7 240 until I can get a better one?
 
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Get this instead:
You'll have an integrated gpu that can actually run games.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.59 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($71.98 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($90.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $257.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-08 18:44 EDT-0400
 
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This is what I'm going with, I knew AMD made good APU's, but I had no idea you could game so well with one.

Also what's the cheapest ATX motherboard that will work with this build?
 
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If you decide to go with an AMD Ryzen APU, be sure to buy in person, because there's no knowing if you're going to get a more recently built B350 board with the newer BIOS to support for these newer APU or an old stock that just won't boot with these APU.

AMD do offer an assistance program for this potential issue, though. So if you want to do the online purchase, check the information regarding that assistance program before doing so.
 
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If you have the extra $80 still, spring for the 2400G APU. You'll get 4 cores, 8 threads, and even better graphics. It is only about $60 more than the 2200G and will be a more solid option for future upgrades.
 
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The upgraded graphics from the 2200G is just icing. What you are really paying $60 more for are those 4 more threads, which will help a lot more down the line. I could argue clock speeds as well, but that only matters if you aren't overclocking. The additional CPU power will be worth it. Besides, he is still under his 8400 budget by a fair margin even with the 2400G.
 
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Here's what you need to understand in budget build. That $60 is easily an 25% increase in total cost; which would serve him much better either in a future GPU upgrade or in outright getting 16GB of RAM right away rather than throwing it away on the "better" APU in hope of better utilizing the limited extra power of the same 4 cores and undersized cooler.
 
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Go with the ds3h board if you go ryzen apu.

It has guaranteed out of the box compatibility.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.59 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($86.98 @ Newegg)
Other: GIGABYTE AB350M-DS3H AM4 AMD X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $248.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-09 13:18 EDT-0400
 
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I agree that the RAM would make more sense but a RAM upgrade is also out of his price range, especially for a speed that benefits the Vega graphics. Additionally, value can also be derived from how long he is going to have that APU as his only solution. If a graphics upgrade isn't imminent within months, he would be better served by whatever advantage he can gain today. Add to that the superior performance of the R5 chips and the deal should be fairly solid. $60 when talking about a GPU isn't that much. It isn't even. 1030 which is what the Vega 11 graphics compete with. It is my opinion that he would be better served with Vega 11 graphics because having Vega 11 vs Vega 8 is the difference between playing 720p quite well and playing 1080p fairly well. If his computing experience is improved while he is waiting for a GPU upgrade then I consider the cost worth it, especially with the extra CPU grunt the R5 has over the R3.
 
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You get 2 USB3.1 Gen2 with the AB350-Gaming, more fan headers, more SATA ports (and the SATA ports are better placed), a second BIOS chip onboard, and somewhat improved VRM for the SOC.

But the AB350-DS3H is guaranteed to support the 2200/2400G from the get go, while the -Gaming will need to be on BIOS F10 (Dec-2017) to be able to boot with the 2200/2400G.
 
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To be fair at that price the ds3h is a very good buy.

As stated it's about compatibility really.
I'd be way of purchasing any b3t0 board from Amazon if its not advertised as ryzen 2000 ready.

The main killer the cheap gigabyte is the singular case fan header.
Everything else is fine for the average user.

The asrocks on newegg are advertised as 2000 ready if theyre of any interest.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157761&FM=1

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157762
 
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The first one of that list is just what I need, plus it's only 54.99 [After rebate😉}.
 
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