Upgrade to Kabylake or not

[dreamerx213]

My Build (current):

I7-4790k @ 4.0
32gb DDR3-1600Mhz
Msi z97 Gaming 7 Mobo
Msi GTX 970
Still Using hdd for boot and storge.

I,m thing of upgrading cpu mobo and ram for the new features Like DDr4
and Pci express

Build I am considering

I7- 7700k
32gb DDR4- 3200MHz
MSI z270 gaming m7 mobo
MSI GTX 970

or just replace the 970 in my current build with a 1080.

I'm a gamer and do light video

 

[MPF-Dean]

Hey Deamerx213,

Your current PC is actually pretty decent. If you can, wait another 6months even 8 - 10 months. With the extra income saved, get this kind of build.

- i7 7700k 4.2 GHz
- 32 DDR4 3200MHz
- MSI z270 Gaming m7 Mobo (I checked it out myself and it looks beast, nice work man)
- Gefore GTX 1070
- NZXT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Liquid CPU Cooler (You could get a better cooler but Kaby Lake is meant to be able to handle temps better than Skylake and Haswell. Try a modest cooler and if it needs upgrading you can always do it later, could maybe even get a EKPredator if you want).

Hope this helps

- LE

 

[geofelt]

As a gamer, a I5-7600K or I7-7700K will likely OC to 5.0 .
add to that a better IPC and you have a nice bump in gaming cpu power.

Most games will not use more than 2-3 threads so a I5-7600K can save you on the budget.

If you doubt this for YOUR games,
Experiment with removing a couple of threads. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of processors to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.

Or, in the bios, disable hyperthreading ans see if it makes a difference.

If you play mostly fast action games, then the GTX1080 is likely to be the better upgrade.

 

[MPF-Dean]

Easiest way to tell if your system can handle a game is check its requirements against your system specs. Geofelt, this guy might just want the best and nothing wrong with that. GTX1070 should handle most games no problem, 1080 would be for the professional gamer. OCing is good and all but if thy guy has the money he could get i7 and OC it even further? push its limits? But all in all computers are bloody legendary and everyone should get $10000 to buy a new one.



- LE

 

[Martell1977]

I'd suggest just getting the 1080. Kaby isn't really faster than Skylake and that was only ~5% faster than Haswell, so the performance difference is negligible.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-kaby-lake-core-i7-7700k-i7-7700-i5-7600k-i5-7600,4870-7.html
That is a lot of money to spend for 4 extra FPS. Just upgrade the GPU and wait to see what Ryzen and Cannonlake have to offer (Note: Cannonlake will be out much later than Ryzen)

 

[geofelt]

If the $100 difference is not a big issue, I would go with a i7-7700K.
There is no downside.

If the price delta for a GTX1080 is not an issue go with that too.
If you do not and buy the cheaper option, , you will forever second guess yourself.

I find I have fewer regrets paying more for something good.

 

[MPF-Dean]

and geofelt has concluded with the best answer.

Very nice

- LE

 

[Martell1977]

If the $100 difference is not a big issue, I would go with a i7-7700K.
There is no downside.

If the price delta for a GTX1080 is not an issue go with that too.
If you do not and buy the cheaper option, , you will forever second guess yourself.

I find I have fewer regrets paying more for something good.

I think we are reading this differently. I am under the impression that the 4790k build is what the OP currently owns and is thinking of upgrading to the 7700k or just upgrading the GTX 970 to the 1080. For the 7700k, that's not a $100 difference, it's a $500+ difference.

I think the OP needs to clarify.

 

[geofelt]

If the $100 difference is not a big issue, I would go with a i7-7700K.
There is no downside.

If the price delta for a GTX1080 is not an issue go with that too.
If you do not and buy the cheaper option, , you will forever second guess yourself.

I find I have fewer regrets paying more for something good.

I think we are reading this differently. I am under the impression that the 4790k build is what the OP currently owns and is thinking of upgrading to the 7700k or just upgrading the GTX 970 to the 1080. For the 7700k, that's not a $100 difference, it's a $500+ difference.

I think the OP needs to clarify.

I was referring to the $100 price difference between a I5-7600K and a I7-7700K.
For the gamer with an overclock, the performance difference will be minor.

 

[dreamerx213]

yes Martell1977 you are correct , I currently own the 4790k build just thinking of upgrading to the i7-7700k build or just the gpu to the
gtx 1080

 

[dreamerx213]

its going to cost around the same to either go with the 1080 or keep the 970 and upgrade the cpu and mobo I have the ddr4 ram. http://

 

[Martell1977]

its going to cost around the same to either go with the 1080 or keep the 970 and upgrade the cpu and mobo I have the ddr4 ram.

You will get a better upgrade from the 1080. There just isn't enough difference in performance from your CPU to the 7700k. Intel has been doing incremental performance increases and your current CPU is still a strong performer and wont bottleneck even a 1080.

 

[dreamerx213]

thanks guys for all the help, think i'll grab the 1080 for now and wait for Intel to release something with more then 4 cores