Upgraded cpu unknown problem

zolton33

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Ok so what i had before was this build:

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Zolton33/saved/rGDzK8

CPU

AMD Athlon II X2 270 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor
Motherboard

MSI 760GM-P23 (FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard

2 G.Skill Value Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory

Western Digital WD Blue 500GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive

Asus Radeon R7 240 2GB Video Card

Antec 450W ATX Power Supply

LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer

Windows 10 64

Now i upgraded my cpu to an FX 8300

I have no plans to over clock and bought the cpu on sale as an upgrade so went with the stock fan that came with it. I installed it and had it on just web surfing for a long while to see how it does. I launch a game Ark Survival Evolved to be exact and i was waiting for my mods to install so i could play when my monitor goes black but the pc is still running and would not power off via its power button so i unplugged it checked my video card and all was well.

I also double checked my cpu fan was secured so i powered it up again all seems fine so i started monitoring the temperatures using cpuid hw monitoring. I noticed my temps are all over the place.

TMPIN0 min 24 max 38

TMPIN1 min 37max 47

TMPIN2 min 29 max 31

AMD FX 8300 Min 14 Max 46

AMD Radeon R& 240 min 32 max 36

Now all seems ok that is at idle while posting this. When i stressed it with Cpuid TMPIN1 hit up to 80 and my cpu was hitting closer to 60+

I was not sure on its accuracy so i tried out AIDA64 extreme. And not long into it less then 3 minutes screen went black and i had to unplug the pc again to shut it down as again the power button did nothing.

So this time i took my pc apart. Completely cleaned off the stock paste and put on some arctic silver to the cpu and put it back together. Not sure what is going on i tried AIDA64 Extreme again and when i saw it jumping to high this time stopped it. The weird thing? The temps kinda lingered there a while. Even when i went into task manager and killed the program. Eventually they did drop back down to normal and i reset the temps to monitor them as i post this to see the changes.

I hope it is not the stock cooler. But i guess it could be the cheap MOBO. I kind of suspected it may be the dual core optimizer that was installed playing havoc on the temps so i uninstalled it and will run another test after i post this after a pc restart to be sure it is gone from the equation. Any ideas on a specific cause? I'd hate to opt for a better cpu cooler when i've no plans to oc the cpu. But i will if that is the problem. Or i guess i could try the older heat sink i had on my other cpu if need be. So any ideas?

Edit to add just tried cpu z stress test while monitoring with cpuid hw monitor and temps were as follows:

TMPIN0 min 24 max 56

TMPIN min 37 max 70

TMPIN2 min 28 max 31

FX 8300 min 14 max 57

AMD Radeon R7 240 min 32 max 36

My case has 5 fans all set to exhaust 2 on rear one on side one on top and one in the front. I stopped the stress when it hit 70 myself on TMPIN1. Not sure what temp that is monitoring but i do not like it at all.
 
Solution
Athlon II X2 270 is a 65W processor.
FX 8300 is a 95W processor.

Your cooling solution needs to dump up to 50% more heat than before so temps will be higher. Maybe use amd overdrive to see temps while gaming and see if you are throttling. Thermal throttling should not cause PC to fail, instead it should slow down.

Did you get your MB up to the most recent BIOS level ? IF not do that next.
Did you install most recent MB chipset drivers ? Ditto.

Windows will have picked some drivers when it saw the FX 8300, but they may not be the best ones for your MB.
Do all of them push the air out? Yes they do. And i have never had a problem with this case in this configuration to be honest this makes the third build to come from it. The thing is massive and easy to swap parts in and out and why i have not swapped it out for a newer case yet. I set them that way as my place captures dust like no ones business so would prefer that they keep pushing out the heat and dust.
 
Ok i tried the cpu fan that i had in it before and stress tested it with CPU z and let TMPIN1 hit 80 my cpu hit 65 under that stress so i then just stopped it out right. I know some are you are probably thinking that it is the cpu fan. Which is why i tried the other one i wanted to see if it was that cpu fan that was bad. But apparently doesn't seem to be the case. I just can not figure out what TMPIN1 is. It seems to be the mobo or a component of it. Could it be the onboard graphics on this mobo doing this running that hot? Or is it just a bad mobo? Or is it the cpu heat sink just not being up to the task?

Also on CPUID HW monitor there is a system fan 2 but for some reason it is only running at 50%? I'd gladly buy a new heatsink if that is the problem. But i'm not sure if its the mobo not up to snuff and overheating or if its the cpu fan not doing its job. Thoughts?

I tried running it with the case open. And tried the stress test again. And it is still running high. TMPIN1 hit 81 before i was able to stop it but at least it did not shut down this time. Cpu still did not hit above 65 when TMPIN1 increased. But that is not to say it would not have done so. I'm at a loss on what is causing this and the best fix. I mean if i buy a new heatsink and that is not the cause then i'm wasting money. I just want to figure out the exact problem so i can fix it. One would think the heatsink that comes with the cpu would be adequate enough to handle the temps with it not being overclocked. And it may be that it is and the cpu socket on the mobo is running hot so mobo needing replaced. Just thinking aloud.
 
Athlon II X2 270 is a 65W processor.
FX 8300 is a 95W processor.

Your cooling solution needs to dump up to 50% more heat than before so temps will be higher. Maybe use amd overdrive to see temps while gaming and see if you are throttling. Thermal throttling should not cause PC to fail, instead it should slow down.

Did you get your MB up to the most recent BIOS level ? IF not do that next.
Did you install most recent MB chipset drivers ? Ditto.

Windows will have picked some drivers when it saw the FX 8300, but they may not be the best ones for your MB.
 
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