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Hey, i upgraded my dad's old comptuter, and something is very fishy :(((((

My Computer Specs:
Intel i7 920 @ 2.67ghz
GTX 560ti
6GB of RAM (Have 12GB but for some reason i can only use 6 or else it shuts down)
64-bit Windows 7
750W Power Supply

AND I LAG IN GAMES!!!!! It makes me so mad knowing that with my specs i should run way more smoothly and probably be able to record and still be able to run smoothly.. Can anybody help me?

 
What size monitor -- normal 1920X1200 or less or a monster high resolution ?

Video lag? Disk Lag? Processor Lag?

Is your Win7 a fresh load, or your Dad's old win7 load?

Windows has a good performance monitor. Goto task manager. Launch the performance tab, click the 'resource monitor' button near the bottom. Open up the sections so you can see the graphs of CPU, disk, network and Memory. Now start a game.

When the game lags, use windows key or alt-escape to get to 'resource monitor' see what is hot. If CPU is pegged then we find the bad processes. If disk is pegged then we see why, if you are paging like crazy then we can debug that.

GL.

If you didn't laod the copy of windows then i would do a fresh load of windows to start with, then get maintenance current from windows update.

p.s. the 12GB vs. 6 GB is weird. To debug that put all the Dimms in. Watch it shutdown. Then pull one, see if it still shuts down, if so pull another. Eventually you can isolate this to a bad dimm or a bad memory socket.

p.s.s. what disk are you using, how full is it, do you let win7 auto defrag the disk ?

what game? can you check what setting others are using for a 560ti in that game.

You should have a very fast system with i7-920 and GTX560ti.
 

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1. 1650 x 1050 Monitor 22"


2. Choppyness

3. Fresh load since i bought a faster hard drive.

4. K, do u want me to tell you what i find?

5. ^^

6. Yes i did fresh load

7. Yes it is wierd. i think i have a bad dimm. cuz i had 2 old ones then i bought like 4 more. and it was shutting down with the old ones, so im using 3x2 new ones for 6gb

8. 64-bit Windows 7

9. Team Fortress 2, Sometimes Portal 2, and i wanna get Prototype/Uncharted3/Resistance3 Soon

10. Yes i know i should, and i think im gonna overclock because im very frustrated atm ):
 

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What hard drive did you buy did you get some ECO Green one? some HDD may seem faster on spec but can be really bad my mate had a WD Green and he laggs on everygame coz of fact its eco green HDD
 
"K, do u want me to tell you what i find? " <<== YES. lol.

"7. Yes it is weird. i think i have a bad dimm. cuz i had 2 old ones then i bought like 4 more. and it was shutting down with the old ones, so im using 3x2 new ones for 6gb "

6GB and 8GB perform the same, so no big deal. Did you go to 6GB to keep 3 channel mode vs. using 4 dimms and getting 8GB? There was some testing that showed the performance delta with 3 channel vs. no 3 channel is roughly 1%, but workload dependent. If you ever get low on real memory (video edit maybe) then the penalty for not having the memory is much greater than 1%. Net: faced with the same decision for different reasons i stuck the extra dimm in my i7-920 and use 8gb. I didn't see a difference either way.

good to know disk didn't make a difference. The WD Black should kill the Seagate green. If it didn't make a difference then its probably not hard drive. (there are HD errors that cause stuttering, but having tried two different drives rules that out).

Aside: What antivirus are you running ? Assume you have a router/firewall protecting you from outside attack.

p.s. there is no way your system stutters on Team Fortress 2. So something else is making it stutter. Resource monitor should tell us what it is.
 

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I am just running firewall right now since i have a fresh windows 7, but i will get Malwarebits im guessing. I have only downloaded Steam/TF2 and Flash Player, and nothing else. I think im gonna add another 2gb of Newly bought RAM, not the old ones from the old setup because 1/2 of them is a bad dimm.. I also gotta learn how to overclock..
 
Oh, forgot. If the heatsink in your processor is clogged up or the fan is going bad then the i7-920 goes into thermal throttling. Do you have anything that monitors the temps of your video card and CPUs? I like realtemp (google to find details, download) because it shows min, max and logs to file.
 
If you don't have an anti-virus running, suggest you download 'microsoft security essentials' for free. google it. then do a full scan once it's downloaded. Maybe it'll catch something.

There are many great i7-920 overclocking guides out there. But i'd wait to get the current stutter cleared up before adding any new variables like overclocking.

Aside: I turned hyperthreading off on my i7-920 because most games don't use more than 4 cores and this way each core is a little stronger and i seem to get a bit more turbo boost. Again, i wouldn't play with that now but once your system is set up right you can research it.

Aside2: If you haven't driven windows update a few times with reboots in between then your system is loaded with bugs that microsoft has already fixed. do that before you do much else. Force windows update to look for updates after each re-boot. (rightclick my computer, properties, windows update). That'll get your windows up to the same level as your video driver (which i'm sure you have current).
 

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Kk ill get realtemp, and my resource moniter looks like this for TF2

hl2.exe threads32 CPU 5 (fluncuates) Average 8.0 (goes down when alt-tabbed a couple mins not playing)


want me to check any other overviews other then CPU?
 
Wait till you get a noticable stutter!

Look at the CPU graph following a stutter. The graph will show you the CPU at the time of the stutter. If its lol 5-8% then CPU is not causing the stutter.

look at the disk activity graph. Again you are looking for a spike near the time of the stutter. (Another way to check is to eyeball the disk activity light -- does it go nuts flickering or solid on at the time of the problem?). If the disk activity is very low then look at the response times reported. They should be in one or two digits, not three or more.

Look at the memory section. The memory hard faults / sec should also show good, low numbers like 0 not spikes into the hundreds at the time of the stutter.

Something is causing the system to be non-responsive. It should leave a footprint somewhere.
 

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There is no "Time of the problem" because its just choppy in general and overall ingames, and i dont follow what your saying about the stutter, and i added the realtime xs bench ^^ if u wanna see that too.
 
Well at least we know what the problem is. Hope you have another PC you can you to check internet and let us know what's goign on. Typical fix for this is to remove the heatsink and cpu, clean the CPU with a special cleaner (like artic silver cleaner) and then put a tiny bit of thermal paste (like artic silver) on the cpu according tot he instruction in the artic silver box. then reattach heatsink and cpu to MB.
 
Aside: my i7-920 gets xs bench score of 1102 at 13.279 secs at 2.793ghz (I run at stock 2.66, so this is turbo boost from stock 2.66 to 2.793). Your xs bench score was 233 at 62 seconds. Your PC was running really slowly with the thermal throttling. It'll be really fast once you get that fixed.

edit: "6GB of RAM (Have 12GB but for some reason i can only use 6 or else it shuts down) " Bet this was a thermal shutdown, and that once you get the system back to normal temps that you can use all the memory. The i7-920 has the memory controller integrated into the cpu. Bet it was failing due to temp.