Question Upgrades from GTX 1070?

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I bought a GTX 1070 AORUS Rev 1.0. From a Parts Hunt on Kijiji as a replacement for my RX 580. Currently I play Battlefront 2 and it struggles at Medium Settings gaming, since I’m used to 75 hz and 240 hz (Dang friend made me use it at his house and now my eyes are like auto adjusting to it), the 50 FPS feels like 30 FPS. I currently use a 1080p 75 Hz Monitor, clocked to 81 Hz. I’d like a upgrade from my 1070 (I’m selling it to pay in some of the money). I’ve been looking at some GPU’s, some overkill 1080p GPU’s. I have the RX 5700 XT, RTX 2060 S, RTX 2070. ($450-$630). A little less overkill cards, RX 5700, 1660 ti, 980 ti, 1070ti, RTX 2060. (I’d wish for it to not be the 1660ti and 1070 ti also 980 ti as it isn’ t a good upgrade for the money) I have a budget of $630 CAD.

Cards I won’t want (RX 5700 XT TUF Gaming, Evoke Series, THICC II)

Which one is the best one for me? Remember 1080 p 81 Hz.

(Ik the 2070 is more than $630 but I found a Used AORUS 2070 for $600)

(REST OF MY SPECS ARE IM MY SIGNATURE)
 

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So you're saying you only get 50fps on medium at 1080p with your current combo?

Before upgrading, I'd look for issues. A 1070/2600 combo should be well over 60fps at ultra in that game. That being said I'd say go 5700xt. Overkill yes, but a great price to performance card!! Also none of the cards listed in your less than overkill would net any worthwhile upgrades except the 2060. The 980ti shouldn't even be a consideration, as the 1070 will be on par/slightly better. The 1070ti doesn't make sense as an upgrade, since you already have most of its performance, especially if you oc your card. The 1660ti is only mildly better, and imo, not worth the cost of upgrade. The 5700 is good, but if budget allows the xt is the better choice.
 

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I bought a GTX 1070 AORUS Rev 1.0. From a Parts Hunt on Kijiji as a replacement for my RX 580. Currently I play Battlefront 2 and it struggles at Medium Settings gaming, since I’m used to 75 hz and 240 hz (Dang friend made me use it at his house and now my eyes are like auto adjusting to it), the 50 FPS feels like 30 FPS. I currently use a 1080p 75 Hz Monitor, clocked to 81 Hz. I’d like a upgrade from my 1070 (I’m selling it to pay in some of the money). I’ve been looking at some GPU’s, some overkill 1080p GPU’s. I have the RX 5700 XT, RTX 2060 S, RTX 2070. ($450-$630). A little less overkill cards, RX 5700, 1660 ti, 980 ti, 1070ti, RTX 2060. (I’d wish for it to not be the 1660ti and 1070 ti also 980 ti as it isn’ t a good upgrade for the money) I have a budget of $630 CAD.

Cards I won’t want (RX 5700 XT TUF Gaming, Evoke Series, THICC II)

Which one is the best one for me? Remember 1080 p 81 Hz.

(Ik the 2070 is more than $630 but I found a Used AORUS 2070 for $600)

(REST OF MY SPECS ARE IM MY SIGNATURE)
As was already said, a GTX 1070 should be able to get over 60fps on Ultra in Battlefront 2, but actually it should be able to do over 100fps. One issue I see is you have a DDR4 3000Mhz kit running at 2666Mhz with really terrible timings at 20-19-19-43. I don't know what exact memory kit you have, but I'm willing to bet it could run with at least 16-18-18-38 or 17-19-19-38 timings at 2933 or 3000Mhz. Setting it to 2933/3000 with CL16 timings could increase fps by 10+ in Battlefront 2.

Battlefront 2 uses the Frostbite engine, which is very much affected by memory speed and even more so by single channel memory mode. An i7-2600 with a GTX 1070 should be capable of up to 80fps using DD3 1600-1833Mhz. When I played the Battlefield 5 Beta on my i7-2600k with my GTX 1070, I was getting 80fps. Battlefield 5 also uses Frostbite engine.

Also of note are the GPUs you listed as upgrades, but are mostly side grades. The GTX 980TI, 1660ti and RTX 2060 (not super) are all within the same 10ish% performance range of a GTX 1070. You would need to buy at least a GTX 1080, RTX 2060 Super or RX 5700 to see close to a 20% increase in performance in most games.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeQMVhMkTm0

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP8udDXeJPc
 

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As was already said, a GTX 1070 should be able to get over 60fps on Ultra in Battlefront 2, but actually it should be able to do over 100fps. One issue I see is you have a DDR4 3000Mhz kit running at 2666Mhz with really terrible timings at 20-19-19-43. I don't know what exact memory kit you have, but I'm willing to bet it could run with at least 16-18-18-38 or 17-19-19-38 timings at 2933 or 3000Mhz. Setting it to 2933/3000 with CL16 timings could increase fps by 10+ in Battlefront 2.

Battlefront 2 uses the Frostbite engine, which is very much affected by memory speed and even more so by single channel memory mode. An i7-2600 with a GTX 1070 should be capable of up to 80fps using DD3 1600-1833Mhz. When I played the Battlefield 5 Beta on my i7-2600k with my GTX 1070, I was getting 80fps. Battlefield 5 also uses Frostbite engine.

Also of note are the GPUs you listed as upgrades, but are mostly side grades. The GTX 980TI, 1660ti and RTX 2060 (not super) are all within the same 10ish% performance range of a GTX 1070. You would need to buy at least a GTX 1080, RTX 2060 Super or RX 5700 to see close to a 20% increase in performance in most games.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeQMVhMkTm0

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP8udDXeJPc
Well, I recently messed with the RAM a bit in the BIOS, and I forgot to switch back the speeds to 3000mhz. It was running at 2666mhz, but I switched back to 3000 last week. It still didn't really make a difference. It's only Battlefront 2 that has this happening, other games is performing just as well as it's supposed to be. I've actually never benchmarked the game on my system, I just use Orgin FPS Overlay. Unless it's not showing proper frames then I don't know what else is the problem. I actually never checked the Timings in the BIOS, and i'm not on my Desktop so I can't check.

I just looked at the pricing at my nearest computer store, and their RX 5700 XT's are all blower fan style. My computer is already loud enough with all my fans installed. The cheapest air-fan GPU is the Gigabyte Gaming OC and Evoke. Adding tax, it would be more than my budget. (I forgot to consider the tax). So right now the cheapest option is actually a RTX 2070 Aorus and a EVGA XC Ultra 2070 (Both $600). They are both used and still have a 3 Year Warranty. (There is no tax on these used parts by the way) (The guy with the XC Ultra mentions that they are negotiable for the price)

(Certain maps that have very low framerates for me)

-Kamino
-Naboo in Day
-Kashyyyk
-Felucia is iffy

(Other maps are fine)

I have all drivers fully updated
 

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Well, I recently messed with the RAM a bit in the BIOS, and I forgot to switch back the speeds to 3000mhz. It was running at 2666mhz, but I switched back to 3000 last week. It still didn't really make a difference. It's only Battlefront 2 that has this happening, other games is performing just as well as it's supposed to be. I've actually never benchmarked the game on my system, I just use Orgin FPS Overlay. Unless it's not showing proper frames then I don't know what else is the problem. I actually never checked the Timings in the BIOS, and i'm not on my Desktop so I can't check.

I just looked at the pricing at my nearest computer store, and their RX 5700 XT's are all blower fan style. My computer is already loud enough with all my fans installed. The cheapest air-fan GPU is the Gigabyte Gaming OC and Evoke. Adding tax, it would be more than my budget. (I forgot to consider the tax). So right now the cheapest option is actually a RTX 2070 Aorus and a EVGA XC Ultra 2070 (Both $600). They are both used and still have a 3 Year Warranty. (There is no tax on these used parts by the way) (The guy with the XC Ultra mentions that they are negotiable for the price)

(Certain maps that have very low framerates for me)

-Kamino
-Naboo in Day
-Kashyyyk
-Felucia is iffy

(Other maps are fine)

I have all drivers fully updated
Before you buy anything, check your driver version and your graphics settings. Make sure you are not running some very high anti-aliasing setting or display scaling at 1.5-2x your resolution. You might have Nvidia Dynamic Super Resolution enabled in the Nvidia Control panel and have game resolution set to 1440p or 2160p. If the low fps problem is only with Battlefront 2, it doesn't make sense to buy a new video card before you figure out what the actual problem is, because it could keep happening on the newer faster card.
 

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The Driver is up to date 441.20 Game Ready. The Anti-Aliasing is not set to high. Nor is Display Scaling. And the Dynamic Super Resolution is definitely not on. Before I actually switched to my 1070, my RX 580 also had the same problem. I might just have to test it first with real-time FPS instead of some laggy Origin FPS Counter. Like if I didn't have my FPS Counter the first thing I would say is, "This feels a bit choppy".

Also the CPU-Z Ram thing, was before I switched back to 3000 MHZ. So it shows 2666MHZ.
 

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The Driver is up to date 441.20 Game Ready. The Anti-Aliasing is not set to high. Nor is Display Scaling. And the Dynamic Super Resolution is definitely not on. Before I actually switched to my 1070, my RX 580 also had the same problem. I might just have to test it first with real-time FPS instead of some laggy Origin FPS Counter. Like if I didn't have my FPS Counter the first thing I would say is, "This feels a bit choppy".

Also the CPU-Z Ram thing, was before I switched back to 3000 MHZ. So it shows 2666MHZ.
You should consider installing MSI Afterburner and setting up the in game overlay so you can get CPU/GPU usage and frequencies during game-play.
 

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