Question Upgrading for better performance

[Sagi sason]

I'm new at all of this computer things so please help me.
I have Intel i3 8100 and Intel UHD 630, and I want to get a better performance in low price, what should I buy cpu or gpu?
And if I'm buying one of them do I need to buy other spacial things?
Thank you
BTW I have a prebuilt PC, I hope it doesn't matter

 

[Sagi sason]

@SkyNetRising I just wanted to thank you because you helped me to understand and learn all this stuff. I just bought a gtx 1050 ti and it works great. Thanks

 

[Sagi sason]

But I don't get it, I bought the gtx 1050 ti and the cpu still bottleneck it. And it's not supposed to.

 

[SkyNetRising]

But I don't get it, I bought the gtx 1050 ti and the cpu still bottleneck it.

Explain. How do you determine that?
Show screenshots.

 

[Sagi sason]

Explain. How do you determine that?
Show screenshots.

https://imgur.com/2v8oOrl

View: https://imgur.com/2v8oOrl

And sometimes it's even lower

 

[SkyNetRising]

So ...
170 FPS feels low for you?

If you don't like cpu to be at 100%, then
increase graphics quality settings, increase resolution, change vsync to adaptive.

 

[Sagi sason]

So ...
170 FPS feels low for you?

If you don't like cpu to be at 100%, then
increase graphics quality settings, increase resolution, change vsync to adaptive.

It's not on 170 it was just that moment, it supposed to be like that all the time but it's only at 100 with a lot of stutters

 

[Sagi sason]

So ...
170 FPS feels low for you?

If you don't like cpu to be at 100%, then
increase graphics quality settings, increase resolution, change vsync to adaptive.

And I can increase the quality to maximum and then it's will be 90-100, but then I have a little input lag and less fpa

 

[SkyNetRising]

Increase graphics quality settings, increase resolution, change vsync to adaptive.

How much ram does your system have? Consider upgrading to 16GB.

 

[Sagi sason]

Increase graphics quality settings, increase resolution, change vsync to adaptive.

How much ram does your system have? Consider upgrading to 16GB.

I have 8GB, why does it matter? When I play I reach maximum 6750MB

 

[SkyNetRising]

I have 8GB, why does it matter? When I play I reach maximum 6750MB

Ram usage can not get higher than physically available ram.
To determine, if current amount of ram is enough, you also have to monitor pagefile usage.

When physically available ram is not enough, system starts swapping ram contents to pegefile on disk. This causes major slowdowns and frame drops during gaming.

 

[Sagi sason]

Ram usage can not get higher than physically available ram.
To determine, if current amount of ram is enough, you also have to monitor pagefile usage.

When physically available ram is not enough, system starts swapping ram contents to pegefile on disk. This causes major slowdowns and frame drops during gaming.

So how do I know if I need to upgrade?

 

[SkyNetRising]

Monitor pagefile usage.
Use MSI Afterburner, Performance Monitor or some other monitoring software.

 

[Sagi sason]

Monitor pagefile usage.
Use MSI Afterburner, Performance Monitor or some other monitoring software.

You can see the ram in the picture I sent.

 

[SkyNetRising]

What picture? In post #54 ?
It doesn't show pagefile usage.

 

[Sagi sason]

What picture? In post #54 ?
It doesn't show pagefile usage.

Oh, I thought you were talking about the ram

 

[Sagi sason]

What picture? In post #54 ?
It doesn't show pagefile usage.

how do i show pagefile usage? i didnt found anything

 

[SkyNetRising]

With performance monitor:
https://www.m-files.com/user-guide/latest/eng/inspecting_page_file_usage_in_performance_monitor.html

With MSI afterburner. Here it is actually commit value from Task manager. If it goes over amount of physical ram, then more ram is recommended.

 

[Sagi sason]

And when I reinstall the drivers for the first time it works very good but after that it's the same problem, it's means that the problem is in the drivers?

 

[SkyNetRising]

Most likely means, you don't have enough ram.

 

[Sagi sason]

Most likely means, you don't have enough ram.

But I do have

 

[SkyNetRising]

Ok. Lets test it then.

Launch MSI afterburner, detach hardware monitoring window, set up visible graphs:
FPS, cpu temp/usage, gpu temp/usage, ram usage, memory usage, pagefile usage.
Run your game until you experience stutters/slowdowns and make a screenshot from afterburner hardware monitoring window and show here.

Hardware monitoring window looks like this:

Spoiler

 

[Sagi sason]

Ok. Lets test it then.

Launch MSI afterburner, detach hardware monitoring window, set up visible graphs:
cpu temp/usage, gpu temp/usage, ram usage, memory usage, pagefile usage.
Run your game until you experience stutters/slowdowns and make a screenshot from afterburner hardware monitoring window and show here.

Hardware monitoring window looks like this:

Spoiler

Ok. Lets test it then.

Launch MSI afterburner, detach hardware monitoring window, set up visible graphs:
cpu temp/usage, gpu temp/usage, ram usage, memory usage, pagefile usage.
Run your game until you experience stutters/slowdowns and make a screenshot from afterburner hardware monitoring window and show here.

Hardware monitoring window looks like this:

Spoiler

Ok. Lets test it then.

Launch MSI afterburner, detach hardware monitoring window, set up visible graphs:
cpu temp/usage, gpu temp/usage, ram usage, memory usage, pagefile usage.
Run your game until you experience stutters/slowdowns and make a screenshot from afterburner hardware monitoring window and show here.

Hardware monitoring window looks like this:

Spoiler

Ok I'll do it, but the thing that there are some stutters but not a lot.
But the fps himself is more than 50 fps less.

 

[Sagi sason]

Ok. Lets test it then.

Launch MSI afterburner, detach hardware monitoring window, set up visible graphs:
FPS, cpu temp/usage, gpu temp/usage, ram usage, memory usage, pagefile usage.
Run your game until you experience stutters/slowdowns and make a screenshot from afterburner hardware monitoring window and show here.

Hardware monitoring window looks like this:

Spoiler

The temp is always at 55 for both

 

[Sagi sason]

Ok. Lets test it then.

Launch MSI afterburner, detach hardware monitoring window, set up visible graphs:
FPS, cpu temp/usage, gpu temp/usage, ram usage, memory usage, pagefile usage.
Run your game until you experience stutters/slowdowns and make a screenshot from afterburner hardware monitoring window and show here.

Hardware monitoring window looks like this:

Spoiler

I see that when I have stutters the gpu usage is dropping down and the bus usage, don't what the bus usage is

 

[SkyNetRising]

Show screenshot from hardware monitoring window.