Update on this with interesting results.
I went to my friend's house that i mentioned who bought a 4850 so we tested out searching for: "how big of an upgrade is it" and "is your system a granny on a speedy lane?". He lent me a copy of Crysis, CoD4-MW and GRID so we could do a somewhat "apples to apples" comparison. We both had WinXP 32Bits.
His rig:
- Athlon64 X2 5000+ BE @3.2Ghz (TT TMG A1, multi OC, 1.55 Vcore) <- Fixed line!
- 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 1066 @800Mhz (4-4-13 OCZ Reaper HPC) <- Fixed line!
- Gigabyte MA790FX-DS5
- Sapphire 4850 (512Mb GDDR3 256bits bus, stock values)
- Coolermaster Extreme Power 600W <- Fixed line!
- 19" LCD (1440x900@75Hz)
My rig (again, but OCed):
- Athlon64 X2 4400+ @2.4Ghz (2.420Mhz, Toledo core, stock HSF)
- DFI Lanparty UT NF4 SLI-D (s939, DDR400, Vantec iCEBERQ HSF)
- 2Gb (512Mbx4) Corsair XMS 2.5-3-3-7 @440Mhz (220Mhzx2)
- ATi (yeah, BBA) X1800XL (RV520@540Mhz, GDDR3@495Mhz, 256bit bus)
- TT ToughPower 850w
- 17" CRT (1024x768@85hz), 22" LCD (1600x1050@75Hz, tested along too)
Before going to the long blah-blah, let me say that our systems might be "close" in terms of Processors, but keep in mind that there's 800Mhz difference in clock speeds, RAM speed and PCIe link along the board. This will add up in the conclusion.
We first went to GRID and we set our rigs to have the SAME fps (wich never became to be, lol) with our own cards and with our exchanged cards. Our game experiences showed this:
- The X1800XL performed really well, showing that the X1800 series (and perhaps even the X800's) still are in game with some-what optimized games and lesser vissual appeals (no AA, no Aniso and a lot of Mid's and Off's in the settings, but still looked "nice and choppy"). On his rig, with everything max'ed out, he never got a single glitch nor a FPS drop from ~40. On the 22" i had a very pretty "ppt" on my screen showing cars... I guess that's a clear issue on the 22".
- When we turned around the table and i had the 4850, the table was indeed turned around! My loading times were faster than his (i'm guessing due to the 512Mb GDDR3@990Mhz of the 4850) and i didn't get any drop from ~35FPS on the 22" LCD. I know it's hard to believe, but i can't believe it either! Had all max'ed out too on GRID. The 17" CRT was a joke to that card. He, however, noted some glitches on his rig with my X1800XL (happened once, but restarted and never again). Also, it is important to point out that he didn't OCed the X1800XL, it was running stock (500Mhz/495Mhz). Not that it might be a hyper difference, but it's still important to point out.
Then we tried Crysis, the must-be-tested game for now, and we experienced this:
- On my rig, with all important settings in Medium, the X1800XL gave 24ish FPS on the 17", getting choppy on water and dense jungle scenes. The rest, close to 35FPS. The 22" was another nice lookin' "ppt" on my X1800XL. His gameplay was smooth on his 19" with all on High (DX9c, remember). We saw more than 34FPS on dense jungle and water scenes with heavy fighting. Everything else was silk smooth above 50FPS.
- When we turned the table, again, i didn't notice the same boost we saw on GRID (all High, 'cept physics), but still looked fine and smooth. I would blame physics for that, lol. Even on low it is very CPU dependant me thinks. Or, perhaps, my old 4400+ did slowed it down a bit, but i'm not sure. And we saw little difference going from the 17" to the 22"... Maybe 10FPS in avg, but it was hard to tell (wich led me think my CPU was bottlenecking it). He wasn't even able to play on his rig with my X1800XL with the same settings. Going from 1024x768 to 1440x900 was really hard on the card and it showed it's tears.
After Crysis, we went CoD4 Modern Waffles (and i must say, it is a great game, i was surprised):
- Very similar case to GRID. It didn't show any difference (visible at least) in performance to our eyes, maybe keener eyes would point out a lot more than we, but meh... I'm happy with what i saw, just like in GRID. All max'ed out, 40+FPS all the time (even on heavy eye-candy fights) on my rig and his. The X1800XL, like in GRID, had troubles on his 19"LCD, but well, we weren't looking for more either.
So, summary is:
- The 4850 is a great card for 1600x1050 res, even on an ageing (age-ing, agiing, aging?) system like mine. It wasn't visible bottlenecked by it (maybe Crysis?) and everything ran smoothly. So people with a close rig to mine, don't be afraid; you can be in game for some more with a nice Video upgrade.
- There's always the OC card under the sleeve (and i don't have a hardcore OC either) to squeeze more juice from your rig and keep it in game for even a little more.
- Having a faster RAM, wider BUS or even a FASTER processor means little when we add up a big card. Our differences DID come across, but were hard to notice (~10FPS maybe frome one rig to the other with the 4850).
- Since we tried the 4850 but no close person to us had a 4870, we weren't able to try it... Sucks, yeah, but it sure gives high hopes, since even though the 4850 performed gorgeously on everything, for me at least, with no 60+ FPS there's still room for improvement here, so i'll get the 4870X2 and give you all another (hopefully) nice review with screenshots and maybe videos (yep, we didin't take them cause it didn't occur to us, lol).
On a side note: we looked at another friend's rig (Q6600@3Ghz, SLi'ed 8800GTs, 1Gb DDR2 800) with the same games (the 22" was his) and it is VERY true that when we look to a screen with more than 60FPS it's so hard to notice a difference in the game from a 60ish FPS screen.
Conclusion: I'll get the 4870X2 and have a blast with it, lol.
Look forward for an update in like... 2 months xP
Esop!
EDIT: Spell and grammar.
EDIT2: Updated my friend's rig.