[SOLVED] Upgrading from i5-3570k Unsure What CPU To Buy?

Cool4strenz

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Hi there, the last PC I built was back in 2012/2013 and with the new Zen 2 CPUs coming out I'm thinking it's time for an upgrade. I got an RTX 2060 which I'm probably going to sell once AIB RX 5700s come out, but I'm a little troubled as to which CPU I should buy. I haven't kept up with PC tech in a while and it took some time for me to check out what's new. Before it was simple since all i5's were 4 core and i7's were 4 core 8 threads with HT. But now the i5 8600k is 6c/6t, the i7 8700k is 6c/12t, the i5 9600k is 6c/6t but the i7 9700k is 8c/8t without HT??? It took me a while to get used to the new 6-core meta.

I'm currently running an i5-3570k @ 4.3Ghz. The reason for my troubles is that I'm currently cooling this CPU with an old Antec Kuhler H20 620 (not the best cooler), but as far as I know this cooler doesn't support AM4. I'm looking to build this PC to run 1080p at 144hz on modern titles on any setting needed to reach the 144fps (don't really care for maxing out settings).

I'm looking at these options currently (prices in USD based on my location):
CPU: Ryzen 5 2600 - $138
Mobo: MSI B450 Tomahawk - $90 or Gaming Pro Carbon AC - $128
Ram: Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200Mhz Cas16 (8x2Gb) - $90
Total - $356 or $394

CPU - I5- 9600K - $238
Mobo: Gigabyte Z390 Gaming SLI - $160
Ram: Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200Mhz Cas16 (8x2Gb) - $90
Total: $488

CPU - Ryzen 5 3600 - $200-210 ish probably but the stores here don't have them yet
Mobo: ??? probably $120-ish
Ram: Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200Mhz Cas16 (8x2Gb) - $90
Total - $420 roughly

The reason I'm hesitant to go AMD is because I don't really know what to do with my CPU cooler if I switch platforms so I'd like to keep it if possible. If I add the price of a CPU Cooler to the Ryzen setups, they'll probably equal or cost more than the Intel setup in price. I have a handful of questions I want to ask before I make a decision, however.

Is my ram choice adequate and is it as simple as setting XMP profile in the Bios?

Motherboard for Ryzen 5 3600? Not looking to ever SLI so I'm thinking a B-series board.

For the 3600 can I just put in on PBO and forget about it?
 

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Thanks I'll probably choose the 3600, it was what I was leaning towards in the first place. As far as CPU coolers go, is it worth it to get an aftermarket solution or just use the stock cooler and PBO?
I tried ryzen with stock cooler , watercooling and simply after market aircoolers. People overclock ryzen even with stock cooler. Based on reviews the 3600 dont have a big gain from overclocking too so i would just stay at stock speed with the stock cooler.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AbNeht4tAE&t=590s
 

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I just posted a similar thread lol. I hve same cpu except I am stuck on choosing a 3700x or the 3600x. I just bought the ASUS TUF X570 Plus Wifi from bestbuy. From teh few reviews I have seen, it tends to come to be in the top 5 for best performance. The best is to put PBO on and raise the voltage just a little bit. This will give it more room to keep higher clocks during heavy load (as long as it remains cool).
 

stefanos50

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Well i remember back in end of 2017 chaning the i5 3570k with ryzen 1600 and the difference was big. I will suggest you to go for the ryzen 5 3600 with msi b450 tomahawk because you dont already have a ryzen cpu maybe find a store that will update the bios for you.
 

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Do 400 series boards need a BIOS update because according to this it should work out of the box https://community.amd.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/240594-1-122072/amd+slide.jpg

EDIT: Actually it says compatible not sure what that means for BIOS
It means that all B450 and X470 they will have bios updates and support 3rd gen but on the other hand for B350 and X370 its the motherboard manufacturers choice if they want to support them and release a new bios. After some time B450 and X470 will be shipped with the bios that support ryzen 3000 and have a sticker on the box that confirm this but right now i think you have to do it manually. There are some stores that sell hardware that can update bios for you if you buy a motherboard even for free.
 

Cool4strenz

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Thanks I'll probably choose the 3600, it was what I was leaning towards in the first place. As far as CPU coolers go, is it worth it to get an aftermarket solution or just use the stock cooler and PBO?
 

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Any mobo manufactured after the 3000 bios instructions release (a month ago?) will not need a bios update. That includes the 400 series mobo's. It's only the older stock that will need a bios update, to add recognition of the 3000 series cpus and a few instructions updates.
 

stefanos50

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Thanks I'll probably choose the 3600, it was what I was leaning towards in the first place. As far as CPU coolers go, is it worth it to get an aftermarket solution or just use the stock cooler and PBO?
I tried ryzen with stock cooler , watercooling and simply after market aircoolers. People overclock ryzen even with stock cooler. Based on reviews the 3600 dont have a big gain from overclocking too so i would just stay at stock speed with the stock cooler.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AbNeht4tAE&t=590s
 

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Get the 3700X since we are using our processor nearly a decade assuming you bought it when it got released. It would be a more helpful in the long run.

Ryzen 3600 seems to be a good way too but if you want to keep a processor longer i would definitely invest in a 8 core chip paired with an x570 motherboard.

If budget is a restriction then by all means get a 3600 paired with a B450 Tomahawk and a decent 3200Mhz kit. Don't go 9600K or 2600 they might help you in current scenario but not in the long run.
 

Cool4strenz

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While that's true, I think with the AMD platform, it'll be a lot easier to upgrade in increments because you can keep your motherboard and ram hopefully. Probably a large reason why many of us decided not to upgrade was because we needed to swap motherboards each time.
 

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