Upgrading from pentium G4560

[lithium94]

I currently own a pentium g4560 paired with a gtx 1060 6gb and 8gb of ram. I mostly use it for just gaming ( PUBG, Total war, Witcher 3, GTA V, and other AAA games ) and I was wondering if an i5 7500 or 7600 are still a worthy upgrade from the pentium or if I should just go for an i7 7700 instead

 

[rifterdask]

UserBenchmark grades the i5 7500 at a roughly 35% performance increase over your g4560. The measurements from that site aren't the most scientific, but they're generally an okayish baseline to work from. If you want to take a look for yourself, just google i5 7500 vs Pentium G4560 - it's the first result.

edit: I should also add that your GTX 1060 is probably being bottlenecked by the pentium. If we take the 35% performance bump from the i5 7500 to be an accurate measurement, your particular case could see an even greater improvement. Upgrade ASAP to get the full value out of that card.

 

[photonboy]

How LONG do you intend to keep the PC?

I'd tend to suggest the i7-7700 (or i7-7700K if compatible motherboard that can overclock) if you can manage it even if the primary benefit is to allow you to keep the PC longer.

When I got my i7-3770K people said you "only need an i5-3570" but I've since been happy to do that as some games now run much better than they would, and in addition I feel no rush to upgrade thus saving me the cost of new motherboard, DDR4 system memory, CPU and reinstalling everything.

The "35%" or whatever above is very hard to apply to an actual game. The minimal FPS can be disproportionately affected when the CPU is a severe choke point so even if you get a 20% say FPS improvement on AVERAGE the experience may better than this might suggest.

*CLOCK SPEED is still king on average. The i7-7700 goes up to 4.2GHz, whereas the i5-7500 "only" goes up to 3.8GHz. So you're already 10% faster which can help even if you don't benefit from the hyperthreading.

SO...

At minimum I'd go for the i5-7500 (then try to adjust the BIOS so all cores run at the max turbo of 3.8GHz thus "x38" on the multipliers for 1,2,3,4-core turbo setup or however that works).

Long-term the i7 might be worth the investment. Some games are getting VERY, VERY DEMANDING of the CPU and that may increase in the future.

 

[photonboy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6LUufXCPDM

Yes, it's done at 720p to exaggerate differences but it's still interesting. It's not just FPS average but frame TIMES that matter (stutter/smoothness etc).

The average FPS is in the upper-right, but the frame TIME differences are in the lower-right.

*The more the line DIPS the worse the experience (varying frame times)... for example if a game was locked to 60FPS then the best you can expect would be 1/60th second (16.7ms) per frame. for VSYNC OFF (which this is) you still prefer minimal variation in frame times.

(more cores/threads can also handle any jumps in non-gaming tasks that occur in the background with minimal to no impact on gameplay)

 

[lithium94]

How LONG do you intend to keep the PC?

I'd tend to suggest the i7-7700 (or i7-7700K if compatible motherboard that can overclock) if you can manage it even if the primary benefit is to allow you to keep the PC longer.

When I got my i7-3770K people said you "only need an i5-3570" but I've since been happy to do that as some games now run much better than they would, and in addition I feel no rush to upgrade thus saving me the cost of new motherboard, DDR4 system memory, CPU and reinstalling everything.

The "35%" or whatever above is very hard to apply to an actual game. The minimal FPS can be disproportionately affected when the CPU is a severe choke point so even if you get a 20% say FPS improvement on AVERAGE the experience may better than this might suggest.

*CLOCK SPEED is still king on average. The i7-7700 goes up to 4.2GHz, whereas the i5-7500 "only" goes up to 3.8GHz. So you're already 10% faster which can help even if you don't benefit from the hyperthreading.

SO...

At minimum I'd go for the i5-7500 (then try to adjust the BIOS so all cores run at the max turbo of 3.8GHz thus "x38" on the multipliers for 1,2,3,4-core turbo setup or however that works).

Long-term the i7 might be worth the investment. Some games are getting VERY, VERY DEMANDING of the CPU and that may increase in the future.

I'd like to keep my PC for as long as possible. An i5 7500 or 7600 sounds like a really nice upgrade and all and they're also around 30% to 40% cheaper than a 7700 where I live but I'm afraid I may regret not going for the i7 in a year or two from now.

One more thing that's keeping me from upgrading is that I've been watching videos comparing the G4560 to the i5's and i7's and I've noticed that the FPS pretty much stay the same in most games unless it's a really CPU demanding like Total war. If I do upgrade to an i7 where will I notice the improvement? Will my FPS go any higher? Or will the game run smoother with less stuttering?

Edit: I didnt read your second post as I was writing this but I think you answered most of my questions there, thanks. I will take a look now!

 

[TerryLaze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6LUufXCPDM

Yes, it's done at 720p to exaggerate differences but it's still interesting. It's not just FPS average but frame TIMES that matter (stutter/smoothness etc).

The average FPS is in the upper-right, but the frame TIME differences are in the lower-right.

The g4560 has 4 threads though and not just 2 as the g3258 had,the g4560 is a true quad core,just not one at 3.5Ghz since the CPU will share resources between all 4 cores it won't be able to run all threads at full speed,but it is pretty close.