Upgrading my dell inspiron 620 for gaming

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I want to upgrade my dell inspiron 620 for series such as TES, FAR CRY and more. I would like to be able to run these game with decent graphics (Medium-High-Ultra) with decent playable frame rates (40+ or hopefully 60+) I have a intel core i3-2120 @ 3.30 GHz (which will not be upgraded atm) with intel hd 2000 graphics (which will be replaced by a gpu) i have 4 gb's of ram which i will want to upgrade to 8 and i would like to upgrade my 300 watt psu for one to fit the gpu/8 gb ram you all recommend. Also my monitor is 1600x900 but will probablly eventually be upgraded to a 23" 1920x1080 one da. Also will any of the componets i put in overheat in the dell inspiron 620's case? Thanks!
 
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I'm sorry. I was conversing with other posters at the time and got your Dell confused with the other poster's HP. I've got to be more careful.

Yes, that is a decent combination of components for gaming at 1600x900 rez. I have that PNY GTX 750 Ti in another machine. It's amazing considering it needs no aux pwr. connection. The i3-2120 is still a good gaming CPU with its Hyper Threading: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html

I can't think of any reason why the PSU will be an issue with the OEM Dell. Did you have a particular concern in mind, or just a general query?
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By the time you invest in a new gfx card, a new PSU, more memory, and later a new CPU... you will have spent enough to warrant just building a new PC and selling the Dell to offset the cost. But since you asked...
The i3 2120 can keep up with most mid range cards pretty well. The GTX 760 or R9-280 would be the max card I'd recommend, but ONLY if you upgrade to a high quality 600W or better PSU first.
If you keep the stock PSU, this would be a good choice. It is the fastest card that does not require a 6 pin aux power feed.
http://www.amazon.com/PNY-GeForce-Overclocked-Graphics-VCGGTX750T2XPB-OC/dp/B00IGHD7S6
 
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1. Would the gtx 760 fit in the dell inspiron 620 mini-tower? 2. Would the temps be fine in the case? 3. Would you recommend to get the 750 ti or buy the gtx 760 and new psu? 4. If you think buying the new gpu would be best, what psu should i buy and also what 8 gb ram (4x2) should i buy? 5. Are you sure that my default 300 watt dell psu would work with that pny 750 ti if i got that? And not mess up? Thank you :) i need some help
 
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1) I'm not personally familiar with the insides of the 620. But if this is what yours looks like inside: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4JEgMuSxfkU/maxresdefault.jpg
...you will need to measure the distance from the rear expansion slot cover to the drive cage to see how much room you have. Then compare that to the stated length of the GTX 760 you choose.
2) The temps will be fine with most cards. It will get warm, but with the top mount PSU and the small rear fan removing heat, it should be OK. An open, vented top would be preferred. If possible, install a front fan to force some air into the case. As big as one that will fit the mountings. Usually a 120mm.
3) If this is the same nameplate specs as on your PSU: http://data.stuartconnections.com/object/image?p=10103&i=2
...you can squeak by with the GTX 750 Ti. I have used one on a similarly rated PSU with no issues. Your i3 is a pretty low wattage CPU. Of course, it would be best to buy a new PSU and move to the GTX 760. But if you go with the 750 Ti and the old PSU, it will be OK.
4) If you decide to upgrade to the GTX 760, Nvidia recommends a 500W minimum PSU w/2 x 6 pin connectors: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-760/specifications
This would be a decent low cost 500W PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438012
A bit better would be: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207030
But keep in mind, these are all designed for bottom mount. So the cables will be a bit long when the PSU is mounted on top. You'll have to be ingenious in figuring out a way to tie them out of the way to prevent blocked air flow.
What are the specs of your memory now?
5) Pretty sure.
 
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how soon would you plan on getting a new cpu? if it is within then next 5-6 months, i would go ahead and get the better gpu and psu now. if your not going to upgrade for a year or so, then get the 750 ti now and look into a whole new build when you decide to late next year.

the 750 ti will run fine on 300 watts. it only uses the power the motherboard already has and will run fine. this is pretty much what the card was designed for which is low power upgrades with good performance.

i say this as the psu and gpu now will be hurt long term with your current cpu where the 750 ti will be just about right. so short term, a better gpu is worth it but long term not so much. a year from now you'll be thinking about a new gpu anyway as you upgrade the rest. does this make sense?

decide what your looking at, come up with a budget and we'll be sure to give you lots of options. oh and measure that space so can be sure the card will fit in it. again it's from the back of the case where the ouputs will poke through to the first thing it would run into when trying to install it (usually hdd cage)
 
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Yeah, that's fine for the GTX 750 Ti. Probably do for the GTX 760 too. It's a bit cheaper here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438016

Which GTX 750 Ti are you considering?
 
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The PNY I mentioned above and that Evga are the 2 fastest GTX 750 Ti cards that require no 6 pin connection. And in that order. This Gigabyte is faster but requires a 6 pin (not an issue for the new PSU). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125511
And with the added 6 pin connection, will have more headroom for OC'ing if that is something you feel like doing.

But with that new PSU, you can move up the ladder a bit if you feel like it. R7-265, R9-270 or the GTX 760.
 
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Are you sure the 760 will not have a bottleneck with a sandy bridge i3 2120 @ 3.3 ghz? I want to be able to get the full potential out of a card for the budget i have. Is there really a big gap in the 760 and 750 ti with my cpu? Because if not i may just got with the pny 750 ti (due to my case fitting a 10 inch card at most) and also me wanting to get max potential of my gpu. Would the 750 ti paired with my i3 2120 run games like bf 3-4, Arma 2-3, TES series and more at high settings with 60+ fps? With my 1600x900 resoultion. If so i prob will just drop the resolution to 720p in some game for a fps boost! 😀
 
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Any time you try to upgrade an OEM PC like the Dell, you always take a small chance of incompatibility due to the proprietary BIOS. But the chances are quite small with a late model like your PC. While I can't guarantee no incompatibility issues, the chances are quite small with a GTX 760. Better than with the newer Maxwell-equipped GTX 750 Ti.

GTX 750 Ti vs GTX 760: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1130?vs=1038

Your best bet for deciding on a card that fits the space you have and gives the best performance out of the box, is to look at these cards listed in order of best rating by Newegg buyers, weigh the core clock speeds, price, and then check their length in the specs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600453362&IsNodeId=1&name=GeForce%20GTX%20760
This PNY: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133498
And this Zotac: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500307
...would seem to fit the bill for card length and fastest core clock out of the box.
But even the least expensive card will be a major improvement over what you are experiencing now.

System memory (RAM) will depend on the motherboard you have. I'm not sure what the specs are for the OEM board Dell used. But I would imagine any DDR3 1600 MHz memory would be fine. My suggestion would be to forget about the memory you have now and buy a matched set of 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600 MHz memory. Dual channel memory stability is very "iffy" if the 2 sticks per channel are not identically MATCHED. That's why dual channel memory is always sold in matched pairs. And with only one stick of memory per channel, you loose about 10% performance over dual channel.
 
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Is there a difference in 1333 mhz ram and 1600 mhz ram? How do i check what my motherboard can use? I looked at my memory and it seems i am using 4 gigs at 2x2 1333mhz but at the same time im not completly sure Thanks! And i think i may go with the pny gtx 750 ti, the performace will be great for me since i only play at 1600x900p or less which will have much more fps then 1080p. Most of those benchmarks were great for me and i dont even play at 1920x1080!😀

Edit : I found out that i needs 1333 mhz ram http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19585656
Would this ram be sufficent? http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-PC3-10666-240-Pin-Memory-CMX8GX3M2A1333C9/dp/B003N8GVUY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419275612&sr=8-1&keywords=1333+mhz+2x4+desktop+ram#customerReviews
 
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That memory will work, but you will be spending more than you need. XMS class memory is designed to be OC'ed. Here are some better prices: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007611%20600006050%20600006069%20600532698&IsNodeId=1
And you can use any speed RAM you want even if it is faster than your board can use. It will just default back to 1333 MHz.

The only possible issue with the GTX 750 Ti and an HP computer, is that your motherboard BIOS may not recognize the newer Maxwell-equipped GPU with its UEFI BIOS. It has been an issue talked about quite a bit on this forum. This MSI card, however, is reported to work on HPs because it has a switch to convert it to legacy BIOS if needed. http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-Corp-N750TI-2GD5/dp/B00I6DLIB8
You can read one of the comments in the reviews section.
 
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Lol this is not a hp computer, it is a dell inspiron 620 and i have already confirmed that it will work :) http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3515/t/19578069

So i think this is what im deciding on to upgrade my dell inspiron 620 for gaming! 😀

Gpu: http://www.amazon.com/PNY-GeForce-Overclocked-Graphics-VCGGTX750T2XPB-OC/dp/B00IGHD7S6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419132587&sr=8-1&keywords=pny+Gtx+750+ti#customerReviews

Psu: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-80PLUS-Certified-ATX12V-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419133143&sr=8-1&keywords=500+watt+psu

Ram: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-PC3-10666-240-Pin-Memory-CMX8GX3M2A1333C9/dp/B003N8GVUY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419275773&sr=8-1&keywords=1333+mhz+2x4+desktop+memory

Does this look good to you? Im pretty sure this is all compatible. What are your thoughts? I will be ordering these parts in a week or less if they look good and compatible. What do you think my performance will be with most games @1600x900p? (with a intel core i3 2120 @3.3 Mhz) Thanks!

EDIT: Also will the EVGA 500 watt psu be compatible with the motherboard in a dell inspiron 620? Thanks
 
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I'm sorry. I was conversing with other posters at the time and got your Dell confused with the other poster's HP. I've got to be more careful.

Yes, that is a decent combination of components for gaming at 1600x900 rez. I have that PNY GTX 750 Ti in another machine. It's amazing considering it needs no aux pwr. connection. The i3-2120 is still a good gaming CPU with its Hyper Threading: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html

I can't think of any reason why the PSU will be an issue with the OEM Dell. Did you have a particular concern in mind, or just a general query?
 
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I was just wondering in general, thank you very much for all your help! I might come to ask more later so keep your eye out for my posts. Thank you very much clutchc! 😀

EDIT: 1 more thing i need to ask you... in the spot i will put the gpu (not the gpu slot but UNDER) right under it in the smaller slot there is a slot that is about 1/4 the size of the gpu slot which has is a thin green component inserted into it. I am not sure what this is and if i am suppose to remove it when i install my gpu. Thanks!
 
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If it is in a slot that is in the way of the GTX 750 Ti (which is a 2 slot-wide card), you will have to move/remove it. Is there any cables connected to that card on the outside of the case? Maybe you better post a pic of it here. It may be a sound card, wi-fi, etc.
 
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I figured out that it is the wifi card http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/For-Dell-Inspiron-620S-DW1502-56CGK-AR9285-PCI-Express-Mini-WLAN-WiFi-Card-2-Antennas-free/202988_1277136679.html. If i just moved it a slot down and set everything back up i would be fine correct?
 
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Yes, that card should work in any X1, X4, or x16 slot. At worse, you may have to reinstall the driver and any software you may have installed for it. But I doubt you'll have to do anything other than move it.
And if worse comes to absolute worse, just pick yourself up a handy USB wifi adapter like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704045&cm_re=usb_wifi_adapter-_-33-704-045-_-Product
I've put them in several builds. It even comes with a 8' extension cable to position the antenna for strongest reception.
 
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Well for now thank you very much! I will talk to you later if i have any further questions or concerns about my build, i am very excited because this is the first gaming pc build i will own! 😀
 
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In this case, the slower clock speed is offset by the fact that the R7-265's GPU is a bit stronger than the GTX 750 Ti's GPU. You can only compare clock speeds when comparing the same make/model. But refresh my memory... were you staying with the Dell PSU or upgrading? Because the R7-265 may be too much for the 300W Dell. And it requires a 6 pin PCIe power connection.
 
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im upgrading to a 500 watt psu and i have decided to just got with the 750 ti, since i have a 1600x900 monitor and i also really dont use aa and such much. The only thing i am wondering is if the inspiron 620 will be completely compatible with the 750 ti. I still am not completely sure, what do you think?

EDIT: i was looking around more and found this http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3513/t/19611140 i am pretty sure it will work now, since it has all the correct slots and is not very old (got it about 2 1/2 years ago or a little more)
 
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