Upgrading my rig [SOLVED]

[Ryuzenji]

My mom bought me a low-end computer that I'm using for gaming (mostly League of Legends and other JRPGs) but the PSU is generic and I have a GT 210 as my GPU. It sucks though I can play games at a very-low setting. I want to upgrade my rig so bad. I'm thinking of upgrading my GPU and PSU. Maybe a 750 Ti or a 1050. If I were to upgrade it to either of those two, would I be required to change my processor as well? What would you recommend?

Specs:
Processor: AMD A4-6300 3.70 GHz
MOBO: Gigabyte F2A68HM-S1
GPU: NVIDIA GT 210
RAM: 4gb (I'm thinking of buying another 4gb in the future)

 

[Keannu]

I'd suggest you switch to a newer socket. Try the Kaby Lake G4560 and 4GB of DDR4 Memory. Stick to the integrated graphics for a little while. Then later on, buy the other 4GB ram along with a 1050 or a 750 ti. The a4-6300 will bottleneck a 750 ti or 1050.

Note: You'll have to buy a new motherboard and memory so keep that in mind .~.

 

[pete_101]

The easiest (and cheapest) option would be to get the PSU and the 750ti and enjoy a huge performance increase over what you've got. Otherwise you're up for a whole new system.

Edit, You really should get the extra 4GB too. Depending on what you currently have for a PSU, it might be alright for a 750Ti as it's only ~35w more than the gt210.

 

[Chugalug_]

The APU you have on there is very poor performance, however the graphics on board actually beat the GT210 quite significantly, I believe that it has the HD 8370D graphics chip on it.
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-G210-vs-AMD-Radeon-HD-8370D/m11784vsm10640
Unplug the graphics card, and plug the monitor into your motherboard instead, should give much better performance.
It won't do that much, but if you want a minimal upgrade an RX 460 is the way to go atm.
Your CPU unfortunately bottlenecks every decent GPU significantly, so this is what you should save for before you consider a GPU.
The integrated graphics on that CPU i've listed is about 70% faster than the APU you have, which in turn is also faster than the GT210.
As a temporary help as mentioned above, throw the graphics card away and use the motherboard connector, much better performance.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.48 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($54.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $177.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-09 02:09 EDT-0400

 

[dontlistentome]

This computer is a dual core, with no hyperthreading. This means certain games will not run well even if you have a powerful videocard, because those games need a quad core. Two examples of games you shouldn't expect good performance on are GTA V and Battlefield 1. This motherboard you have will not upgrade to a quad core CPU worth buying for these kinds of games, so you won't be changing the processor.

So as long as you understand that, you can upgrade this computer and get much, much better game performance when you play games that run okay or even run very well on dual core CPUs. The GT 210 is not a gaming card, not at all, that's why you can barely play anything on it. A generic power supply is okay as long as it's a 300W or better. You can see if this is true by looking at the label, which you need to open the computer case to see.

Assuming you have a 300W power supply, you have a few options. A 750 Ti or 1050 would be nice, or an RX 460 2gb. The RX 550 is also an option but it won't save you much compared to an RX 460, and the 460 is a lot faster, so I wouldn't recommend the 550 at this time. All these cards can be found in versions that don't need a 6 pin power connector, so make sure you get one of those kind.

The memory upgrade is dependent on the games. Most dual core friendly games don't need more than 4gb, but 8gb can help sometimes. It'd be nice but not vital.

 

[Chugalug_]

Yep, the GT 1030 is set to be between the RX 460 and 1050 level for sub $80.

 

[rcald2000]

Ryuzenji What is your upgrade budget? Do you live in the United States or other?

 

[Chugalug_]

PSU is perfectly fine for now, no need to upgrade since you probably won't go above a 1050.

 

[Ryuzenji]

I'd suggest you switch to a newer socket. Try the Kaby Lake G4560 and 4GB of DDR4 Memory. Stick to the integrated graphics for a little while. Then later on, buy the other 4GB ram along with a 1050 or a 750 ti. The a4-6300 will bottleneck a 750 ti or 1050.

Note: You'll have to buy a new motherboard and memory so keep that in mind .~.

A newer socket, you mean I need to replace my motherboard? And is the G4560 great in recording gameplay like... around 30-60 frames? And will it last for a long time? I'm sorry for these stupid questions. I am kinda new in the PC building world.

 

[Chugalug_]

Yeah, you will have to swap your CPU.
The G4560 will last a fairly decent time, about 2-3 years, then i'd upgrade to a Coffee Lake i7 non-k when it releases since it'll probably be backwards compatible.

 

[Ryuzenji]

Ryuzenji What is your upgrade budget? Do you live in the United States or other?

I live in the Philippines. I have 15k as my budget so that's $300 if I'm not mistaken

 

[Ryuzenji]

This computer is a dual core, with no hyperthreading. This means certain games will not run well even if you have a powerful videocard, because those games need a quad core. Two examples of games you shouldn't expect good performance on are GTA V and Battlefield 1. This motherboard you have will not upgrade to a quad core CPU worth buying for these kinds of games, so you won't be changing the processor.

So as long as you understand that, you can upgrade this computer and get much, much better game performance when you play games that run okay or even run very well on dual core CPUs. The GT 210 is not a gaming card, not at all, that's why you can barely play anything on it. A generic power supply is okay as long as it's a 300W or better. You can see if this is true by looking at the label, which you need to open the computer case to see.

Assuming you have a 300W power supply, you have a few options. A 750 Ti or 1050 would be nice, or an RX 460 2gb. The RX 550 is also an option but it won't save you much compared to an RX 460, and the 460 is a lot faster, so I wouldn't recommend the 550 at this time. All these cards can be found in versions that don't need a 6 pin power connector, so make sure you get one of those kind.

The memory upgrade is dependent on the games. Most dual core friendly games don't need more than 4gb, but 8gb can help sometimes. It'd be nice but not vital.

The clerk at the shop I went to said that it's best to upgrade my 700w PSU to at least a bronze tier one to be able to withstand a 750 ti or 1050 because he's talking about some risks in using a generic psu for those gpus. My friend also recommended me to go for the RX 460. Thanks for the advice, sir.

 

[Ryuzenji]

The APU you have on there is very poor performance, however the graphics on board actually beat the GT210 quite significantly, I believe that it has the HD 8370D graphics chip on it.
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-G210-vs-AMD-Radeon-HD-8370D/m11784vsm10640
Unplug the graphics card, and plug the monitor into your motherboard instead, should give much better performance.
It won't do that much, but if you want a minimal upgrade an RX 460 is the way to go atm.
Your CPU unfortunately bottlenecks every decent GPU significantly, so this is what you should save for before you consider a GPU.
The integrated graphics on that CPU i've listed is about 70% faster than the APU you have, which in turn is also faster than the GT210.
As a temporary help as mentioned above, throw the graphics card away and use the motherboard connector, much better performance.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.48 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($54.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $177.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-09 02:09 EDT-0400

I do hope the shops near me have these... Thanks man. It's still within my budget thanks! Edit: what would be the best graphics card for this set-up?

 

[Ryuzenji]

The easiest (and cheapest) option would be to get the PSU and the 750ti and enjoy a huge performance increase over what you've got. Otherwise you're up for a whole new system.

Edit, You really should get the extra 4GB too. Depending on what you currently have for a PSU, it might be alright for a 750Ti as it's only ~35w more than the gt210.

It's a generic 700w PSU but then they said that it's better to upgrade my power supply as well.

 

[Chugalug_]

This computer is a dual core, with no hyperthreading. This means certain games will not run well even if you have a powerful videocard, because those games need a quad core. Two examples of games you shouldn't expect good performance on are GTA V and Battlefield 1. This motherboard you have will not upgrade to a quad core CPU worth buying for these kinds of games, so you won't be changing the processor.

So as long as you understand that, you can upgrade this computer and get much, much better game performance when you play games that run okay or even run very well on dual core CPUs. The GT 210 is not a gaming card, not at all, that's why you can barely play anything on it. A generic power supply is okay as long as it's a 300W or better. You can see if this is true by looking at the label, which you need to open the computer case to see.

Assuming you have a 300W power supply, you have a few options. A 750 Ti or 1050 would be nice, or an RX 460 2gb. The RX 550 is also an option but it won't save you much compared to an RX 460, and the 460 is a lot faster, so I wouldn't recommend the 550 at this time. All these cards can be found in versions that don't need a 6 pin power connector, so make sure you get one of those kind.

The memory upgrade is dependent on the games. Most dual core friendly games don't need more than 4gb, but 8gb can help sometimes. It'd be nice but not vital.

The clerk at the shop I went to said that it's best to upgrade my 700w PSU to at least a bronze tier one to be able to withstand a 750 ti or 1050 because he's talking about some risks in using a generic psu for those gpus. My friend also recommended me to go for the RX 460. Thanks for the advice, sir.

He's trying to con you into buying more stuff from them, even a generic 500w would be plenty for a 1050/1060 system, they only draw about 200-250 and 300w each respectively.
Btw 80+ isn't an indicator of quality necessarily, there are some really terrible 80+ units like the Corsair CX, CSM and VS/VP.
Should have told us if you were in the Philippines initially.
I'll update it.

 

[Chugalug_]

Get these, comes out around 16k.
https://dynaquestpc.com/product/intel-pentium-g4560-3-5-ghz-2-core-processor/
https://dynaquestpc.com/product/asrock-b250m-pro4/
https://dynaquestpc.com/product/kingston-hyperx-fury-8gb-single-ddr4-2133-hx421c14fb28/
https://dynaquestpc.com/product/palit-gtx-1050-stormx-2gb/

 

[Ryuzenji]

Get these, comes out around 16k.
https://dynaquestpc.com/product/intel-pentium-g4560-3-5-ghz-2-core-processor/
https://dynaquestpc.com/product/asrock-b250m-pro4/
https://dynaquestpc.com/product/kingston-hyperx-fury-8gb-single-ddr4-2133-hx421c14fb28/
https://dynaquestpc.com/product/palit-gtx-1050-stormx-2gb/

I'll look into it, thanks!

 

[Chugalug_]

No problem.