Ok, here's the deal, my girlfriend's dad's computer bit the dust last night and he ordered a new computer and will be picking it up today from Microcenter, I helped him pick out the machine.
In the meantime I discovered that it seems that the psu on the old computer is what died, so he was planning on replacing the psu in the old one and use it for a backup, the biggest thing is how much of an upgrade is he looking at between the 2 machines.
Old one:
Operating System Licenses Included Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Case & Motherboard
Case Orientation Vertical
North Bridge Chipset Intel X58 Express
Processor
CPU Brand Intel
CPU Core Quad-Core
CPU Type Core i7
CPU Speed 920 (2.66GHz)
Turbo Boost Speed Up to 2.93GHz
Level 2 Cache 4 x 256KB
Level 3 Cache 8MB
FSB QPI 4800MT/s
CPU Socket LGA 1366
CPUs Installed 1
CPUs Supported 1
CPU Main Features Virtualization Technology
Turbo Boost Technology
Hyper-Threading Technology
Memory
Total Memory 6GB
Form Factor 240-pin DIMM
Memory Configuration 3 x 2GB
Memory Slots (Total) 4
Memory Slots (Available) 1
Maximum Memory Supported 16GB
Hard Drive
HD Capacity 1.2TB
HD Interface SATA
HD RPM 7,200 RPM
HD Configuration 2 x 640GB
RAID RAID 0
Multimedia Drives
Optical Drives Included 1
Optical Drive SuperMulti DVDRW
Optical Drive Specs SuperMulti Double Layer DVDRW Drive
Video
GPU Type Dual ATi Radeon HD 4670
Video Memory 2048MB
GPU Interface PCIe x16
Display Interface 2 x DVI
2 x HDMI
2 x VGA
Audio
Audio System High Definition Audio
Audio Channels 7.1
Communications
LAN Gigabit LAN
LAN Data Rate Speed 10/100/1000Mbps
WLAN Wireless LAN
Wireless Technology 802.11b
802.11g
WLAN Data Transfer Rate Up to 54Mbps
Card Reader
Card Reader 8-in-1 Media Card Reader
Media Supported CompactFlash I
CompactFlash II
MicroDrive
MMC
Secure Digital
SmartMedia
Memory Stick
Memory Stick PRO
Front Panel Ports
USB 2.0 2
FireWire 400 1
Back Panel Ports
VGA 15-pin 2
DVI 2
HDMI 2
USB 2.0 8
FireWire 400 1
eSATA 3Gb/s 2
LAN RJ-45 1
Expansion Bays
External 5.25" Bays (Total) 5
External 5.25" Bays (Available) 4
External 3.5" Bays (Total) 1
External 3.5" Bays (Available) 0
Internal 3.5" Bays (Total) 4
Internal 3.5" Bays (Available) 2
Expansion Slots
PCIe x16 Slots (Total) 2
PCIe x16 Slots (Available) 0
PCIe x4 Slots (Total) 1
PCIe x4 Slots (Available) 1
PCIe x1 Slots (Total) 2
PCIe x1 Slots (Available) 0
PCI Slots (Total) 1
PCI Slots (Available) 0
Keyboard
Keyboard Standard
Connection Type USB
Power Source USB
Mouse
Mouse Optical
Buttons 2
What's in the Box
Preloaded Software Adobe Acrobat Reader
ESET NOD32 Antivirus 60-Day Trial
Microsoft Office Ready 60-Day Trial
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts 1 Year
Labor 1 Year
Link: http://www.microcenter.com/product/324108/G207
New Machine:
Startup Operating System Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Operating System Licenses Included Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Windows 8 Professional 64-bit
Case & Motherboard
Computer Case PowerSpec ATX 7670
Case Orientation Vertical
North Bridge Chipset Intel Z87 Express
Processor
CPU Brand Intel
CPU Core Quad-Core
CPU Type Core i7
CPU Speed 4770K (3.5GHz)
Turbo Boost Speed Up to 3.9GHz
Level 2 Cache 4 x 256KB
Level 3 Cache 8MB
CPU Socket Socket 1150
CPUs Installed 1
CPUs Supported 1
CPU Main Features Virtualization Technology
Hyper-Threading Technology
Execute Disable Bit
MMX
SSE
SSE2
SSE3
Advanced Vector Extensions
Turbo Boost v2.0
Supplemental SSE3
SSE4
AES Instructions
Extended Memory 64 Technology
FMA3 Instructions
Advanced Vector Extensions 2.0
Memory
Total Memory 16GB
Memory Speed DDR3-1600
Form Factor 240-pin DIMM
Memory Configuration 2 x 8GB
Memory Slots (Total) 4
Memory Slots (Available) 2
Maximum Memory Supported 32GB
Hard Drive
HD Capacity 2TB
HD Interface SATA
HD RPM 7,200 RPM
HD Configuration 1 x 2TB
Solid State Drive
SSD Capacity 120GB
SSD Interface SATA 6Gb/s
Multimedia Drives
Optical Drives Included 1
Optical Drive Blu-ray Burner
Optical Drive Specs 14x Blu-ray DVD Burner Drive - 14x BD-R; 2x BD-RE; 8x BD-ROM; 8x DVDR DL; 16x8x6 DVDRW; 48x24x48 CD-RW
Display
Display Type Display Not Included
Video
GPU Type NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660Ti AMP
Video Memory 2GB
GPU Interface PCIe x16
Display Interface 1 x HDMI
1 x DisplayPort
1 x DVI-I
1 x DVI-D
Audio
Audio System Realtek ALC892
Audio Channels 7.1
Communications
LAN Gigabit LAN
LAN Data Rate Speed 10/100/1000Mbps
LAN Interface Integrated
WLAN Wireless LAN 802.11b/g/n
Wireless Technology 802.11b
802.11g
802.11n
WLAN Data Transfer Rate up to 150Mbps
WLAN Interface PCIe
Front Panel Ports
USB 2.0 3
USB 3.0 2
Audio 1 x headphone
1 x microphone
Back Panel Ports
PS/2 1
USB 2.0 2
USB 3.0 4
LAN RJ-45 1
Audio 5
Digital Audio 1
Expansion Bays
External 5.25" Bays (Total) 4
External 5.25" Bays (Available) 3
External 3.5" Bays (Total) 1
External 3.5" Bays (Available) 1
Internal 3.5" Bays (Total) 5
Internal 3.5" Bays (Available) 4
Expansion Slots
PCIe x16 Slots (Total) 2
PCIe x16 Slots (Available) 1
PCIe x1 Slots (Total) 1
PCIe x1 Slots (Available) 0
PCI Slots (Total) 3
PCI Slots (Available) 3
Keyboard
Keyboard Standard
Number of Keys 104
Connection Type USB
Power Source USB
Mouse
Mouse Optical
Buttons 3
Connection Type USB
Power Source USB
Power
Power Supply 500 Watt
Combined +12V Rating 432 Watts (36A)
Physical Specifications
Width 7.25"
Depth 17.5"
Height 16"
Weight 17.2 lbs.
Box Size 13.4" x 24.4" x 24.4"
Shipping Weight 20.3 lbs.
What's in the Box
What's in the Box G411 Desktop Computer, Power Cord, Mouse, Keyboard, Quick Start Guide, Warranty Sheet, Recovery Media for Windows 7 Pro (64-bit) and Windows 8 Pro (64-bit)
Preloaded Software NOD32 Trial
Internet Explorer 10
Microsoft Office 2013 Trial
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts 1 Year Limited
Labor 1 Year Limited
Link: http://www.microcenter.com/product/415256/G411_Desktop_Computer
I'm just wanting to make absolute certain I was right when I said the new machine would blow the old one away.
He doesn't really play a lot of games (his grandson like to play minecraft and Marvel Heroes with me, but that is about all the gaming that gets done) but does use Google CAD software and such, and the old machine has been doing great for him, from what I could find out about the new machine should do far better. I told him if he wanted a true cad machine, the Quadro's or the Firepro's where the true cards for CAD work, but those cards are rather expensive. So this is what we settled with. What throws me for a loop is the i7-920 would've been still good enough for me these days on gaming (though old) I would have been upgrading the gpu's and ram first on the old machine and go from there. But he wanted to go with the newest and best that Microcenter had in their brand that didn't break the bank. (I guess powerspec is an in house brand) and that's all he has bought since the pentium 4 era. Just wanted opinions on the new system and to see if anyone knew the differences between the 2.
Thanks for all your help!
In the meantime I discovered that it seems that the psu on the old computer is what died, so he was planning on replacing the psu in the old one and use it for a backup, the biggest thing is how much of an upgrade is he looking at between the 2 machines.
Old one:
Operating System Licenses Included Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Case & Motherboard
Case Orientation Vertical
North Bridge Chipset Intel X58 Express
Processor
CPU Brand Intel
CPU Core Quad-Core
CPU Type Core i7
CPU Speed 920 (2.66GHz)
Turbo Boost Speed Up to 2.93GHz
Level 2 Cache 4 x 256KB
Level 3 Cache 8MB
FSB QPI 4800MT/s
CPU Socket LGA 1366
CPUs Installed 1
CPUs Supported 1
CPU Main Features Virtualization Technology
Turbo Boost Technology
Hyper-Threading Technology
Memory
Total Memory 6GB
Form Factor 240-pin DIMM
Memory Configuration 3 x 2GB
Memory Slots (Total) 4
Memory Slots (Available) 1
Maximum Memory Supported 16GB
Hard Drive
HD Capacity 1.2TB
HD Interface SATA
HD RPM 7,200 RPM
HD Configuration 2 x 640GB
RAID RAID 0
Multimedia Drives
Optical Drives Included 1
Optical Drive SuperMulti DVDRW
Optical Drive Specs SuperMulti Double Layer DVDRW Drive
Video
GPU Type Dual ATi Radeon HD 4670
Video Memory 2048MB
GPU Interface PCIe x16
Display Interface 2 x DVI
2 x HDMI
2 x VGA
Audio
Audio System High Definition Audio
Audio Channels 7.1
Communications
LAN Gigabit LAN
LAN Data Rate Speed 10/100/1000Mbps
WLAN Wireless LAN
Wireless Technology 802.11b
802.11g
WLAN Data Transfer Rate Up to 54Mbps
Card Reader
Card Reader 8-in-1 Media Card Reader
Media Supported CompactFlash I
CompactFlash II
MicroDrive
MMC
Secure Digital
SmartMedia
Memory Stick
Memory Stick PRO
Front Panel Ports
USB 2.0 2
FireWire 400 1
Back Panel Ports
VGA 15-pin 2
DVI 2
HDMI 2
USB 2.0 8
FireWire 400 1
eSATA 3Gb/s 2
LAN RJ-45 1
Expansion Bays
External 5.25" Bays (Total) 5
External 5.25" Bays (Available) 4
External 3.5" Bays (Total) 1
External 3.5" Bays (Available) 0
Internal 3.5" Bays (Total) 4
Internal 3.5" Bays (Available) 2
Expansion Slots
PCIe x16 Slots (Total) 2
PCIe x16 Slots (Available) 0
PCIe x4 Slots (Total) 1
PCIe x4 Slots (Available) 1
PCIe x1 Slots (Total) 2
PCIe x1 Slots (Available) 0
PCI Slots (Total) 1
PCI Slots (Available) 0
Keyboard
Keyboard Standard
Connection Type USB
Power Source USB
Mouse
Mouse Optical
Buttons 2
What's in the Box
Preloaded Software Adobe Acrobat Reader
ESET NOD32 Antivirus 60-Day Trial
Microsoft Office Ready 60-Day Trial
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts 1 Year
Labor 1 Year
Link: http://www.microcenter.com/product/324108/G207
New Machine:
Startup Operating System Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Operating System Licenses Included Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Windows 8 Professional 64-bit
Case & Motherboard
Computer Case PowerSpec ATX 7670
Case Orientation Vertical
North Bridge Chipset Intel Z87 Express
Processor
CPU Brand Intel
CPU Core Quad-Core
CPU Type Core i7
CPU Speed 4770K (3.5GHz)
Turbo Boost Speed Up to 3.9GHz
Level 2 Cache 4 x 256KB
Level 3 Cache 8MB
CPU Socket Socket 1150
CPUs Installed 1
CPUs Supported 1
CPU Main Features Virtualization Technology
Hyper-Threading Technology
Execute Disable Bit
MMX
SSE
SSE2
SSE3
Advanced Vector Extensions
Turbo Boost v2.0
Supplemental SSE3
SSE4
AES Instructions
Extended Memory 64 Technology
FMA3 Instructions
Advanced Vector Extensions 2.0
Memory
Total Memory 16GB
Memory Speed DDR3-1600
Form Factor 240-pin DIMM
Memory Configuration 2 x 8GB
Memory Slots (Total) 4
Memory Slots (Available) 2
Maximum Memory Supported 32GB
Hard Drive
HD Capacity 2TB
HD Interface SATA
HD RPM 7,200 RPM
HD Configuration 1 x 2TB
Solid State Drive
SSD Capacity 120GB
SSD Interface SATA 6Gb/s
Multimedia Drives
Optical Drives Included 1
Optical Drive Blu-ray Burner
Optical Drive Specs 14x Blu-ray DVD Burner Drive - 14x BD-R; 2x BD-RE; 8x BD-ROM; 8x DVDR DL; 16x8x6 DVDRW; 48x24x48 CD-RW
Display
Display Type Display Not Included
Video
GPU Type NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660Ti AMP
Video Memory 2GB
GPU Interface PCIe x16
Display Interface 1 x HDMI
1 x DisplayPort
1 x DVI-I
1 x DVI-D
Audio
Audio System Realtek ALC892
Audio Channels 7.1
Communications
LAN Gigabit LAN
LAN Data Rate Speed 10/100/1000Mbps
LAN Interface Integrated
WLAN Wireless LAN 802.11b/g/n
Wireless Technology 802.11b
802.11g
802.11n
WLAN Data Transfer Rate up to 150Mbps
WLAN Interface PCIe
Front Panel Ports
USB 2.0 3
USB 3.0 2
Audio 1 x headphone
1 x microphone
Back Panel Ports
PS/2 1
USB 2.0 2
USB 3.0 4
LAN RJ-45 1
Audio 5
Digital Audio 1
Expansion Bays
External 5.25" Bays (Total) 4
External 5.25" Bays (Available) 3
External 3.5" Bays (Total) 1
External 3.5" Bays (Available) 1
Internal 3.5" Bays (Total) 5
Internal 3.5" Bays (Available) 4
Expansion Slots
PCIe x16 Slots (Total) 2
PCIe x16 Slots (Available) 1
PCIe x1 Slots (Total) 1
PCIe x1 Slots (Available) 0
PCI Slots (Total) 3
PCI Slots (Available) 3
Keyboard
Keyboard Standard
Number of Keys 104
Connection Type USB
Power Source USB
Mouse
Mouse Optical
Buttons 3
Connection Type USB
Power Source USB
Power
Power Supply 500 Watt
Combined +12V Rating 432 Watts (36A)
Physical Specifications
Width 7.25"
Depth 17.5"
Height 16"
Weight 17.2 lbs.
Box Size 13.4" x 24.4" x 24.4"
Shipping Weight 20.3 lbs.
What's in the Box
What's in the Box G411 Desktop Computer, Power Cord, Mouse, Keyboard, Quick Start Guide, Warranty Sheet, Recovery Media for Windows 7 Pro (64-bit) and Windows 8 Pro (64-bit)
Preloaded Software NOD32 Trial
Internet Explorer 10
Microsoft Office 2013 Trial
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts 1 Year Limited
Labor 1 Year Limited
Link: http://www.microcenter.com/product/415256/G411_Desktop_Computer
I'm just wanting to make absolute certain I was right when I said the new machine would blow the old one away.
He doesn't really play a lot of games (his grandson like to play minecraft and Marvel Heroes with me, but that is about all the gaming that gets done) but does use Google CAD software and such, and the old machine has been doing great for him, from what I could find out about the new machine should do far better. I told him if he wanted a true cad machine, the Quadro's or the Firepro's where the true cards for CAD work, but those cards are rather expensive. So this is what we settled with. What throws me for a loop is the i7-920 would've been still good enough for me these days on gaming (though old) I would have been upgrading the gpu's and ram first on the old machine and go from there. But he wanted to go with the newest and best that Microcenter had in their brand that didn't break the bank. (I guess powerspec is an in house brand) and that's all he has bought since the pentium 4 era. Just wanted opinions on the new system and to see if anyone knew the differences between the 2.
Thanks for all your help!