[SOLVED] Upgrading to new 5000 series cpu

[kingbowcat]

Just considering upgrading my Ryzen 2600x to maybe 5600x or 5800x

It would give a good performance boost in terms of FPS? I've read the single core performance of even the 5600x is pretty formidable. I do play games in1480p though? But then again I also play a lot of turn based games/ simulators.

I also do a lot of ripping videos onto DVD which takes ages with my 2600x up to 30 mins.. I assume this would be faster with a more powerful CPU. Would the 5600x make an awful lot of difference or 5800x worth getting instead? as the 5600 doesn't have many cores/threads.

Thanks guys.

 

[norcalsc]

whatever you do, don't pay a scumba... i mean scalper for your new CPU. just wait till you can get one and YES, it will be a big improvement

 

[kingbowcat]

Don't worry I will have to wait anyway for the BIOS update to allow to use the new 5000 series CPU which ever one I get probably 5600x. Will I have to reinstall windows or anything putting the new CPU in? Or need a new OEM license?

 

[USAFRet]

Don't worry I will have to wait anyway for the BIOS update to allow to use the new 5000 series CPU which ever one I get probably 5600x. Will I have to reinstall windows or anything putting the new CPU in? Or need a new OEM license?

For just a CPU change, no. No reinstall, no license issue
If you're changing the motherboard, a fresh OS install is strongly recommended, often required.

 

[kingbowcat]

For just a CPU change, no. No reinstall, no license issue
If you're changing the motherboard, a fresh OS install is strongly recommended, often required.

ah thank you yes I remember having to reinstall windows and get new license when I put in the B450. That's a relief I won't have to do it again. Btw do you think my Artic 34 Esports cooler is better than the Wraith Stealth Cooler that comes with the 5600x? or even if its good for 5800x? (as cooler doesn't come with that one.)

 

[kingbowcat]

Will my current Arctic Esports 34 duo be able to handle the AMD 5800x or will I need a beefier option?

If not will it be better than Wraith Stealth Cooler that comes with 5600x?

Thanks

 

[BogdanH]

There's relative small difference in heat dissipation between 2600X and 5800X, so your existing Arctic cooler will do the job fine.

 

[BogdanH]

Answered in your CPU thread .. and yes, your Arctic is good for 5800X

 

[geofelt]

Good luck in finding a 5000 series processor anytime soon.
At 1440P, games may be graphics card limited.

Games like sims, strategy and mmo do heavily depend on the performance of the single master thread.
For that, the 19% IPC boost and a clock near 5.0 will be very good.

Likely your ripping app will benefit from many threads.
Multiplayer games with many participants like many threads also.
For a boost there, consider going past the 12 threads you have to 16 with the 5800, or even more.

 

[kingbowcat]

Good luck in finding a 5000 series processor anytime soon.
At 1440P, games may be graphics card limited.

Games like sims, strategy and mmo do heavily depend on the performance of the single master thread.
For that, the 19% IPC boost and a clock near 5.0 will be very good.

Likely your ripping app will benefit from many threads.
Multiplayer games with many participants like many threads also.
For a boost there, consider going past the 12 threads you have to 16 with the 5800, or even more.

Thanks, I have all my PC details in my signature. Its a RX5700xt which does well with 1440p in games I play. Have seen the odd delay in texturing in some demanding GPU benchmark tests which could be my old CPU not sending the info to the GPU fast enough slowing the rendering?

EG 27" QHD 144hz 1ms 2560 x 1440 Monitor
AMD Ryzen 5 2600x, RX5700XT
Crucial MX500 250GB - for windows only
Samsung 850 Evo 500GB SSD, Samsung 860 Evo 1TB,
2x 16gb DIMM DDR4 @3600
Tomahawk B450 Max, EVGA 650w QG

 

[geofelt]

What is your rendering app?
What hardware is recommended for the app?

 

[kingbowcat]

The program is WinX DVD Author version 5.8. On their website I don't think they sell this product anymore but a similar program has this in technical FAQ:

'WinX DVD Ripper Platinum supports up to 8 CPU Core which dramatically improves the video converting speed. '

So I think its easy to say the 5800x would be better having more core/threads than 5600x. But even the 5600x would be a good improvement over the 2600x because of the higher cache and faster core speeds?

 

[kingbowcat]

What is your rendering app?
What hardware is recommended for the app?

Just timed it for the first time took an hour and 5 mins to put the video file to pc. Could be just the program I use is bad? know of a better video to DVD program?

 

[BogdanH]

took an hour and 5 mins to put the video file to pc.

I made just a quick comparison between 2600X, 5600X and 5800X:
2600X: 65min -your result
5600X: 45min -expected
5800X: 34min -expected

Keep in mind, that's a guess based on pure CPU performance differences. If really important to you, you should check some CPU reviews and benchmarks.

 

[kingbowcat]

I made just a quick comparison between 2600X, 5600X and 5800X:
2600X: 65min -your result
5600X: 45min -expected
5800X: 34min -expected

Keep in mind, that's a guess based on pure CPU performance differences. If really important to you, you should check some CPU reviews and benchmarks.

Thanks for working that out for me are you planning to get a 5000 series to replace your 3700x or is that still good for you?

 

[digitalgriffin]

Just considering upgrading my Ryzen 2600x to maybe 5600x or 5800x

It would give a good performance boost in terms of FPS? I've read the single core performance of even the 5600x is pretty formidable. I do play games in1480p though? But then again I also play a lot of turn based games/ simulators.

I also do a lot of ripping videos onto DVD which takes ages with my 2600x up to 30 mins.. I assume this would be faster with a more powerful CPU. Would the 5600x make an awful lot of difference or 5800x worth getting instead? as the 5600 doesn't have many cores/threads.

Thanks guys.

You'll get roughly a 40% uplift in performance. Those 30 minute encodes should be down to be between 15 and 20 minutes depending on storage, gpu, and codec.

Not many games use more than the 6/12 core thread count. But turn based strategy is one of them that typically benefit from more cores (like civ vi)

The 5800x is regarded as a very poor value in terms of gaming. But in your case this may work out well for you because you do video work as well.

In terms if fps increase, don't expect the same 40% increase unless you had some ridiculously powerful gpu like a 3090 running at 1080p. Even then you wouldnt hit the full 40%. But that all depends on game. You will benefit less at 1440p.

A lot of modern games like gears 4 have two % utilization meters in engine. One for gpu and one for cpu. They either measure frame time or fps. The times should be equal between the cpu time and gpu time. That is when the gpu is done drawing the cpu had the next batch of instructions ready to go without excess wait time

 

[kingbowcat]

You'll get roughly a 40% uplift in performance. Those 30 minute encodes should be down to be between 15 and 20 minutes depending on storage, gpu, and codec.

Not many games use more than the 6/12 core thread count. But turn based strategy is one of them that typically benefit from more cores (like civ vi)

The 5800x is regarded as a very poor value in terms of gaming. But in your case this may work out well for you because you do video work as well.

My PC specs are in my signature, all fairly up to date apart from CPU and Ram. Also there is probably better software I could use for it but theres so much out there and many I tried are no good.

I was looking at 5600x or 5900x but I mainly game so I went with 5600x hardware reviewers like gamers Nexus put me off the 5800x haha worst value of the three. I usually browsing on my laptop while i'm putting video to dvds anyway so not really a deal breaker. But it takes the piss atm lol.

 

[BogdanH]

are you planning to get a 5000 series to replace your 3700x or is that still good for you?

I'm very happy with 3700X and I don't really need better CPU right now. But 5000 series is really tempting... maybe in spring

like gamers Nexus put me off the 5800x haha worst value of the three.

I have high opinion about GamersNexus, but you should take reviewer opinions carefully and within context. There's recommended: 5600X for gamers, 5900X for content creators -as there's nothing in between.
Steve (the reviewer) said the same for 3700X (when he reviewed 3000 series CPU). But as it turned out, 3700X is the best choice for those who are both: moderate gamers AND non-professional content creators. And I think, that's also true for 5800X.
In short: the best CPU is the one, that suits YOUR needs best.