Question upgrading would cause a bottleneck?

[rjcard32315]

i have a 1060 with my i5 4460, but if i were to upgrade to a 1070ti, would the performance increase be enough to warrant the upgrade? or would my cpu just spin out.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

You would see a performance bump across the board, however in a good portion of games your 1070ti will be held back by the i5, limiting performance. If you need to upgrade your best bet would be to invest into a newer more modern platform.

 

[rjcard32315]

You would see a performance across the board, however in a good portion of games your 1070ti will be held back by the i5. If you need to upgrade your best bet would be to invest into a new platform

I agree it would just be more cost effective of buying a 1070ti then going ryzen lol.
I want to play planet coaster at 60 FPS, i thought the 1070ti would do it, but as i just checked my cores are all maxed out, and my gpu is at 60%, I could upgrade to a i7 4790, but in pc benchmark, its like 17 percent faster. I think those 8 threads would fix planet coaster though, right?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Yes hyperthreading helps out older i7 cpus a ton in modern games. The only issue i have is that these older i7s are sought after for simmilar upgrades and have heavily inflated prices. I would weigh the price of a i7 4790 or 4770k in your region and compare it to the price of a newer ryzen 5 system.

 

[rjcard32315]

Yes hyperthreading helps out older i7 cpus a ton in modern games. The only issue i have is that these older i7s are sought after for simmilar upgrades and have heavily inflated prices. I would weigh the price of a i7 4790 or 4770k in your region and compare it to the price of a newer ryzen 5 system.

Thanks for your help. You've given me a lot to think about.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor | $164.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard | $64.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $83.69 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $328.57
| Mail-in rebates | -$15.00
| Total | $313.57
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-28 20:25 EDT-0400 |
What is the price of the i7 47X0 compared to this? I would opt for this if the i7s price is within $100 of this. A ryzen 5 and faster ram performs better than an i7 and has a good upgrade path. Also what mobo do you have?

 

[rjcard32315]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor | $164.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard | $64.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $83.69 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $328.57
| Mail-in rebates | -$15.00
| Total | $313.57
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-28 20:25 EDT-0400 |
What is the price of the i7 47X0 compared to this? I would opt for this if the i7s price is within $100 of this. A ryzen 5 and faster ram performs better than an i7 and has a good upgrade path. Also what mobo do you have?

A used i7 4790 is about 160, a lot more new.
I settled with building a new pc using ryzen 1700 to stay within my price range, i went with gigabytes ax370 gaming motherboard, a two 4 GB kit at 2666 mhz, a nice case much roomier than my old one and EVGA's 500 BR to power my 1060. A huge upgrade path, m.2, a lot more sata ports that the two i have now, i can always upgrade to ryzen 2700, dual channel for ram upgrades etc.
Here's my build in case you want a more clear picture
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kgcPr6

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Ok. Im hoping your not paying 299 for the 1060

 

[rjcard32315]

Ok. Im hoping your not paying 299 for the 1060

No of coarse not lol, my 1060 came with my prebuilt, it was upgraded from the previous owner. Thanks for your help.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Thats a good list. You can get a 240gb Kingston SA400 ssd for $5 less than that 128 ssd.

 

[rjcard32315]

Thats a good list. You can get a 240gb Kingston SA400 ssd for $5 less than that 128 ssd.

Yeah the only reason i didn't go for a 240 gb ssd was for the 850 pro's performance. I now see the problem with that when windows takes 40 gbs on my ssd lol. Makes it rough some times.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

850 does perform better, but its not something you will notice. I just saw a video of a cheap SATA SSD vs an expensive NVME SSD, vs HDD. The 2 ssds were within 1 second on windows and most games load times, with the hdd taking like 3 times the time.

 

[rjcard32315]

850 does perform better, but its not something you will notice. I just saw a video of a cheap SATA SSD vs an expensive NVME SSD, vs HDD. The 2 ssds were within 1 second on windows and most games load times, with the hdd taking like 3 times the time.

Interesting i just compared ssds in pc benchmark's website, and all the 240 gb ssds in my price range where like 60 - 100 percent slower than the 850 pro. Don;t have another ssd to compare but good to know.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh0vg1V6xtQ
Keep in mind that is a faster samsung ssd but the point is there is little real-world difference between most ssds.
I would pick an 850 pro since it is higher quality and offers slightly faster in real-world performance over a cheap 240gb, but the extra capacity is welcome. I know from experience 120gb fills fast. You could buy a 2tb hdd and 120gb ssd if you want room for programs.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Heres a great 250gb Crucial MX500 that performs faster than the 250gb Samsung 860s, but the mx500 costs about $10 less. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0764WCXCV/ref=twister_B07PV7KHL3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-860-Evo-250GB-vs-Crucial-MX500-250GB/3949vs3951

 

[rjcard32315]

Okay, ill make sure to keep that ssd in mind, good to know.

 

[bystander]

Did you mention the resolution of your display, maybe the refresh rate as well? At a high resolution, the 1070ti would not be bottlenecked, but at a low resolution, it would.

 

[rjcard32315]

Did you mention the resolution of your display, maybe the refresh rate as well? At a high resolution, the 1070ti would not be bottlenecked, but at a low resolution, it would.

Just 60hz, regular dell 1080p ultra slim monitor. Not moving to 1440p or 144hz until mayber later.

 

[rjcard32315]

Heres a great 250gb Crucial MX500 that performs faster than the 250gb Samsung 860s, but the mx500 costs about $10 less. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0764WCXCV/ref=twister_B07PV7KHL3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-860-Evo-250GB-vs-Crucial-MX500-250GB/3949vs3951

Hey all my PC parts from new egg arrived yesterday, It took me about 2 hours to get the dang cpu cooler on, i suppose the issue was the back plate wasn't staying in place, had to be a two man job. I was about to give up until finally the 4 screws threaded. Everything else, cable management, front io, hardware installations were a breeze though. Have to admit the RGB makes me feel like the 5 hours spent yesterday were worth it. Thanks for your help btw
And for anyone wondering i saw about a 10 - 25 FPS boost, watch dogs now only uses 35 percent 😀