USB 3.0 Spec Finished: It's SuperSpeed USB

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the new giga-fun-ulra-high-speed-mega-expansive-uber-cool-optical-firewire spec is way better funner highspeederder expansiver cooler and optically'r.

Just to bad the name blows arse and cant be spoken out loud fast for more than 4 times.
 
Because USB 3 is very simple for Joe Consumer.

Now the NEW USB, on steroids and with morning rage.

Better than the old one, and faster than your Maibatsu Thunder.
 
[citation][nom]stuart72[/nom]Why not just call it USB 3? Everyone will anyway[/citation]

Yeah in 5 years I never heard anyone say "Is that hard drive HighSpeed compatible?" or even "Is that flash drive USB two point o?". USB 2 is the only term I have ever heard, so I'm pretty sure everyone will just stick with USB 3.
 
I think this is some very positive news. eSata can't deliver power to a device, which makes it (almost) useless for portable drives. Now that USB3 can deliver higher speed AND power, this can be the perfect solution to the slow speed of USB2 or the external power supply of eSata.

Good work!

...now only make sure the controller is cheap 😉
 
"After much discussion, they finally settled on “SuperSpeed USB” (perhaps holding “Ludicrous Speed” in reserve for USB 4.0)."

They've gone to plaid!
 
[citation][nom]AudioEE[/nom]"After much discussion, they finally settled on “SuperSpeed USB” (perhaps holding “Ludicrous Speed” in reserve for USB 4.0)."

They've gone to plaid![/citation]
LoL.

[citation][nom]liemfukliang[/nom]CPU Utilitation?[/citation]
You don't really want to know. Why do you think Intel pushed Core i7 out so fast?



 
LOL I want a plaidspeed USB controller!!!!

Seriously, I may actually buy a "USB" Hard drive now. Depending on how expensive the add-in cards are, I may become an early adopter.
 
Don't get too excited with USB hard drives. USB 3 won't offer anything better than USB 2, which has already more than enough throughput for what current 7200rpm drives can offer.
 
I apologize for taking so long to amend my last post, but anyway....

USB 2 Test
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6667/graph27541493ly7.jpg

Using the data from that test, I tested one of my SATA 3G 320Gb hard drives and the results tell me USB2.0 cannot handle the full speed of my hard drive. 32.2 MB/s is nowhere near 69.6MB/s For Sequential Reads and 34MB/s isn't close to 251.2MB/s for Burst Speeds
My tests
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2205/snag0055au8.jpg

But if USB3 works @ alteast 50% of its advertised speeds it would handle it.

 
I'm hoping that USB 3 will feature an actual off CPU controller unlike normal USB which tends to eat processor cycles. It's one of the reasons why firewire 400 murders USB 2 despite the actual speeds of firewire being supposedly slower. Also they need to up the power output on the USB port. Most single USB ports don't supply enough power to run modern 2.5 inch HDs which require more than 500 mA.
 
USB 2 is 48 MB/s (that's BYTES, not bits). A Velociraptor hard drive can easily do 100MB/s. Intel's new SSDs can do 240+MB/s.

The speed of USB 3 isn't listed anywhere in this article, but it's something like 500MB/s. SATA 2 maxes out near 300MB/s. So in theory, a solid state drive could run faster using USB 3 than SATA 2 and you probably wouldn't need a power source. SSDs aren't very power hungry.

In short zak_mckraken has no idea what he's talking about.
 
This is retarded. It's still uses the host CPu for low level calls, thus crippling itself. Unl So it doesn't matter what limit they say it has, because no one will ever reach it under noraml conditions. No thanks. (Can't actually read what I'm saying because off this stupid glitch, sorry for any spelling erros.).
 
USB 2 is 48 MB/s (that's BYTES, not bits). A Velociraptor hard drive can easily do 100MB/s. Intel's new SSDs can do 240+MB/s.

The speed of USB 3 isn't listed anywhere in this article, but it's something like 500MB/s. SATA 2 maxes out near 300MB/s. So in theory, a solid state drive could run faster using USB 3 than SATA 2 and you probably wouldn't need a power source. SSDs aren't very power hungry.

In short zak_mckraken has no idea what he's talking about.
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Indeed it is....

From TFA
USB 3.0 will support data rates as high as 5.0 Gb/sec—rendering the new standard 10 times faster than USB 2.0.
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Using an easy to find bit calculator, 5 gigabits/s = 640 Megabytes/s
http://www.matisse.net/bitcalc/?input_amount=5&input_units=gigabits&notation=legacy

USB 2.0 is 480 Megabits /s. Which is 60 Megabytes /s http://www.matisse.net/bitcalc/?input_amount=480&input_units=megabits&notation=legacy

In short I appreciate the agreement that Zak was talking out of his ass, but at least make sure your numbers are correct. 😉
Although my guesstimates on actual throughput were just that...guesstimates based on USB2 actual throughput being roughly 50% of rated, meaning if USB3 can achieve the same percentage of throughput then 50% of 640 is 320 megabytes/s which is plenty for my current hard drives(250Mbytes/s Burst Read, 69.6Mbytes/s Sequential)
 
Or you can divide the number of bits by 8 seeing as 1 byte equals 8 bits. Math in the new world. We need a converter to divide by 8 :)
 
Old world math here, but I've never been great with it and find it easier to throw a number in the calculator.

I passed algebra in college but unfortunately forgot 90% of it.
 
[citation][nom]cliffro[/nom]Indeed it is....From TFAUsing an easy to find bit calculator, 5 gigabits/s = 640 Megabytes/shttp://www.matisse.net/bitcalc/?in [...] ion=legacyUSB 2.0 is 480 Megabits /s. Which is 60 Megabytes /s http://www.matisse.net/bitcalc/?in [...] ion=legacyIn short I appreciate the agreement that Zak was talking out of his ass, but at least make sure your numbers are correct. Although my guesstimates on actual throughput were just that...guesstimates based on USB2 actual throughput being roughly 50% of rated, meaning if USB3 can achieve the same percentage of throughput then 50% of 640 is 320 megabytes/s which is plenty for my current hard drives(250Mbytes/s Burst Read, 69.6Mbytes/s Sequential)[/citation]
actually that would be incorrect.
5Gb = 5million bits = 5/8 million bytes = 595MB/s.

USB2 goes 57MB/s
Then there is an overhead, which slows down the speed a bit, and there's upload data as well.
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Also when more devices are connected the speed drops even lower.
this could lead a USB speed to lower than 50MB/s.
And USB3 should be 575MB/sor so...
 
I'm more worried for battery and powerusage on mobile devices like UMPC,mininotebooks,mids,etc.
The powerdraw on a USB port could force them to upgrade batteries,and the faster bus speed will also use more power.
I hope they willintegrate some sort of powerdown state,or low speed state to preserve battery.

PS,t indeed sucks not to be able to see what you type in this text box!
 
This is good news for those that use external drives a lot because once USB 3 external drive enclosures become mainstream this will allow people like me to get more HDD's out of the system tower & just have small drive farms all running off of USB 3. The downside is if this new USB 3 uses a lot of CPU time then it becomes worthless yet a again.

Another said something about finishing wireless N some how it may never get finished because lets face how many years have we been using draft N Now I am seeing Wimax a lot more in the spec's of newly released laptops so maybe they are just gonna jump ahead to Wimax in the future.
 
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