Question USB 3.1 Type C Adapter Recommendations

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Well, according to ASRock's specs for this board, it does have 2x USB 3.2, 20-pin headers on it, for which most cases have cables already attached to the front I/O panel... just plug & play..

  • 1 x USB 2.0 Header (Supports 2 USB 2.0 ports) (Supports ESD Protection)
  • 2 x USB 3.2 Gen1 Headers (Support 4 USB 3.2 Gen1 ports) (Supports ESD Protection)
And if your case has a USB-C port on the front, the cable should also be there and plug directly into either of those same headers.

But if you are wanting to add a native type E connector, then yes you would need either that pci-e card, or an adapter with a 20-pin connecter on 1 side and a type E on the other, and plug your case cables into that...

Or am I misunderstanding what you want to do ?
 
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USB labels are confusing these days, and your post leaves me with questions.

First, ALL USB 3 systems now are USB 3.2, with a Genx appended. The Gen1 version can deliver up to 5 Gb/s max data transfer rate in the communications subsystem. The device may NOT reach that speed because its components can't move that fast (e.g. a really fast mechanical hard drive can only get to about 2.5 Gb/s), but the communication subsystem is deliberately designed NOT to be the speed limiting factor. The Gen2 systems can do 10 Gb/s max data, and the Gen2x2 systems can get to 20 Gb/s. For cables and CONNECTORS, the old Type A for USB2 connectors now have BLACK plastic inserts and the new versions of these with more contacts in them have BLUE inserts - they can fit into older USB2 sockets, too. These Type A connectors are fine for Gen1 and MAY be used for Gen2 (speed not guaranteed), but it is really recommended that you use only the newer smaller Type C connector for Gen2, and you MUST use Type C for Gen2x2. On a Motherboard, the USB 3.2 port headers for these three Gen's are all different because of the controllers. Mobos use the SAME header types for Gen1 and Gen2, and each of these headers actually contains TWO USB ports so its cable normally connects to two external sockets. The sockets can be older Type A for any Gen1 port. For Gen 2 ports they should be the newer Type C, but many mobos use one Type C and one Type A for these, just to make it easier for users with older equipment to plug in. On a mobo the Gen2x2 header is very different - called a Type E header which contains only ONE port at this high speed max of 20 Gb/s, and it MUST be connected to an external Type C socket.

Your post uses the term Type C in the headline, but "Type 3" regarding mobo headers. The mobo MAY have labels that say USB 3.1, instead of 3.2, and they may not use the Genx label system. But at least they should tell you max speeds of 5 (Gen1) or 10 (Gen2) Gb/s. It is the mobo HEADERS and their CONTROLLERS that determine what speeds your external sockets can do.

So, if ALL your mobo headers are USB3.2 Gen1 (max 5 Gb/s) ports, then you need only the USB3 version (blue inserts) of Type A sockets and cables - these are fully able to work at that port speed. IF you need to connect to a Type C connector on some cable, you can get simple adapters to convert a Type A socket into a Type C socket.

IF your mobo has at least one header that does operate as Gen 2 (10 Gb/s max), then you should be getting some way to feed its two port signals to one or two external Type C sockets. Although you can use Type A sockets you may or may not get that higher speed.

IF your mobo has only Gen1 headers but you want to ADD a pair of Gen2 ports, then you need to start looking for a PCIe card to add that type of Controller chip and connection sockets to your system.

Unless you have a Type E mobo header built in that offers a Gen 2x2 port, I have not yet seen any PCIe card that can add that to a mobo.
 
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Well, according to ASRock's specs for this board, it does have 2x USB 3.2, 20-pin headers on it, for which most cases have cables already attached to the front I/O panel... just plug & play..

  • 1 x USB 2.0 Header (Supports 2 USB 2.0 ports) (Supports ESD Protection)
  • 2 x USB 3.2 Gen1 Headers (Support 4 USB 3.2 Gen1 ports) (Supports ESD Protection)
And if your case has a USB-C port on the front, the cable should also be there and plug directly into either of those same headers.

But if you are wanting to add a native type E connector, then yes you would need either that pci-e card, or an adapter with a 20-pin connecter on 1 side and a type E on the other, and plug your case cables into that...

Or am I misunderstanding what you want to do ?

Interesting - I definitely don't have a place to slot this in.
 

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USB labels are confusing these days, and your post leaves me with questions.

First, ALL USB 3 systems now are USB 3.2, with a Genx appended. The Gen1 version can deliver up to 5 Gb/s max data transfer rate in the communications subsystem. The device may NOT reach that speed because its components can't move that fast (e.g. a really fast mechanical hard drive can only get to about 2.5 Gb/s), but the communication subsystem is deliberately designed NOT to be the speed limiting factor. The Gen2 systems can do 10 Gb/s max data, and the Gen2x2 systems can get to 20 Gb/s. For cables and CONNECTORS, the old Type A for USB2 connectors now have BLACK plastic inserts and the new versions of these with more contacts in them have BLUE inserts - they can fit into older USB2 sockets, too. These Type A connectors are fine for Gen1 and MAY be used for Gen2 (speed not guaranteed), but it is really recommended that you use only the newer smaller Type C connector for Gen2, and you MUST use Type C for Gen2x2. On a Motherboard, the USB 3.2 port headers for these three Gen's are all different because of the controllers. Mobos use the SAME header types for Gen1 and Gen2, and each of these headers actually contains TWO USB ports so its cable normally connects to two external sockets. The sockets can be older Type A for any Gen1 port. For Gen 2 ports they should be the newer Type C, but many mobos use one Type C and one Type A for these, just to make it easier for users with older equipment to plug in. On a mobo the Gen2x2 header is very different - called a Type E header which contains only ONE port at this high speed max of 20 Gb/s, and it MUST be connected to an external Type C socket.

Your post uses the term Type C in the headline, but "Type 3" regarding mobo headers. The mobo MAY have labels that say USB 3.1, instead of 3.2, and they may not use the Genx label system. But at least they should tell you max speeds of 5 (Gen1) or 10 (Gen2) Gb/s. It is the mobo HEADERS and their CONTROLLERS that determine what speeds your external sockets can do.

So, if ALL your mobo headers are USB3.2 Gen1 (max 5 Gb/s) ports, then you need only the USB3 version (blue inserts) of Type A sockets and cables - these are fully able to work at that port speed. IF you need to connect to a Type C connector on some cable, you can get simple adapters to convert a Type A socket into a Type C socket.

IF your mobo has at least one header that does operate as Gen 2 (10 Gb/s max), then you should be getting some way to feed its two port signals to one or two external Type C sockets. Although you can use Type A sockets you may or may not get that higher speed.

IF your mobo has only Gen1 headers but you want to ADD a pair of Gen2 ports, then you need to start looking for a PCIe card to add that type of Controller chip and connection sockets to your system.

Unless you have a Type E mobo header built in that offers a Gen 2x2 port, I have not yet seen any PCIe card that can add that to a mobo.

Yep - I meant type 3.
 

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Maybe this will help - a list of all the USB headers.

Your mobo has three types of USB headers / ports.
  1. On the mobo's back panel only (see manual p. 9) there are three pairs (six sockets) of USB 3.2 Gen1 with Type A sockets.
  2. Also on the rear panel in one group there are two USB 3.2 Gen2 sockets - one Type A, one Type C.
  3. On the mobo (see manual p 7 and 8) there is one USB2 header (item key 20) at the bottom, and two USB3.2 Gen1 headers (item keys 8 (mid front edge) and 21 (bottom)) These headers can be used to plug in cables to exterior sockets.
For the USB2 header your case has no exterior sockets. You can get a simple 2-socket plate to mount in an unused rear PCIe slot to provide USB2 sockets, and connect its cables to this mobo header

https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Female-Plate-Adapter-USBPLATE/dp/B0000511LW/ref=sr_1_19?crid=105JG2UEL8KJX&keywords=usb+2+adapter+plate&qid=1655220630&sprefix=usb2+adapter+plate,aps,87&sr=8-19

There are two groups of front USB3.2 sockets built into the top of your Corsair case. The manual uses older labels for them: USB 3.0 for the pair of Type A sockets, and USB3.1 Type C for a single socket - odd since the mobo header has two USB3.2 ports in one header. So those two cables can be plugged into the two mobo USB3.2 Gen 1 headers, but all of those top front sockets will be Gen1 since that's all the mobo headers can do.

In summary, you have (possible using an accessory rear panel) 2 USB2 sockets, six USB3.2 Gen1 Type A sockets on the mobo rear panel, two USB3.2 Gen2 sockets (one Type A, one Type C) on the rear panel, and three sockets on your case top front (two Type A, one Type C) that can be USB3.2 Gen1 from your mobo headers.

If you want to add more USB 3.2 Gen2 sockets, you will need a PCIe card with a Gen2 Controller and sockets.
 
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USB 3.2 Gen2x2 = USB 3.2 (old). Also called SuperSpeed+ dual lane. Upto 20Gb/s. Type-C. Capable of upto 240w bi-directional power depending on cable used, otherwise limited to 3.2 Gen2 wattage.

USB 3.2 Gen2 = USB 3.1 (old). Also called SuperSpeed+. Upto 10Gb/s. Type-A/C. Capable of upto 20v-5A (100w)

USB 3.2 Gen1 = USB 3.0 (old). Also called SuperSpeed. Upto 5Gb/s. Type-A. Capable of upto 5v-0.9A (4.5w)

USB 2.0. Upto 480Mb/s. Type-A. Capable of upto 5v-0.5A (2.5w)
 
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