[SOLVED] Value Durable SSD

[Stardude82]

So I've got a Dell G3 15" 3579 with a Patriot Scorch 256GB (PCIe x2) and a Samsung QVO 2TB. I want to down cycle the 255GB drive and replace it with something a bit more durable if not faster. (I'm running some science software and I was surprised at how much it worked my hard drive.) 256GB has been plenty for this work. I've got a $10 Newegg gift card.

I'm eyeing the 512GB WD SN550 for $42 or the 1TB for $75 if purely for the TBWs. I know they have a bad rep, but they are probably good enough and I'm not going to fill these things. All the WD color drives have the same endurance ratings from the WD data sheets.

 

[Maxxify]

SN550 has been updated to the SN570, and yes the WD drives are quite good even if DRAM-less (NVMe Blues/SN5xx). TBW is only for warranty, mind you, but any halfway decent SSD will survive forever in terms of flash endurance.

 

[Pextaxmx]

according to the spec sheet https://assets.website-files.com/5c...863e0e7c7fa919_Scorch Product Sheet 256GB.pdf
your drive is covered 150TBW for 3 years. SN550 256 GB drive is covered for 150TBW for 5 years, thus no difference in terms of total TB covered by warranty. Just 2 years less coverage.

For whatever reason, this Corsair 240 GB drive is covered up to 400TBW
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-force-mp510-240gb/p/N82E16820236475

 

[USAFRet]

Size, budget, and expected TBW within X years...

Generally, though...most reasonable quality consumer grade SSD's will last long beyond their warranty TBW number.
It may die of something else, but it wouldn't fall over and die at 15TBW or 400TBW. Or whatever.

 

[Stardude82]

Size, budget, and expected TBW within X years...

Generally, though...most reasonable quality consumer grade SSD's will last long beyond their warranty TBW number.
It may die of something else, but it wouldn't fall over and die at 15TBW or 400TBW. Or whatever.

400GB+, I don't want to spend more than $75 OTD. It looks like I'm hitting 30TBW/year.

Most won't fail, but endurance rating has got to be a stand in for general reliability, no? Also, I can't find it, but there was some SSD manufacturer (HP I think) that basically had the device self-destruct after hitting the endurance rating. I assume that was a rare practice, but I haven't seen anything recent on this.

Maybe, just looking at the results of some old tests, maybe my question should be: What's the best deal on a ~512GB SSD with DRAM?

 

[Maxxify]

Maybe, just looking at the results of some old tests, maybe my question should be: What's the best deal on a ~512GB SSD with DRAM?

Using current US PCPartPicker prices: SN550 (DRAM-less NVMe), WD Blue 3D or SanDisk Ultra 3D (DRAM SATA), EX920 (DRAM NVMe). Honorable mentions are the 670p (not recommended at that capacity) and S31 (also better at 1TB). If you're truly doing a lot of writes I would go with the WD/SanDisk drives since their static SLC is much more consistent. If you want that in DRAM + NVMe, any E12(S)-based drive like the MP34 will do.

If you absolutely want massive TBW then the E12 drives are probably your best bet.

 

[USAFRet]

400GB+, I don't want to spend more than $75 OTD. It looks like I'm hitting 30TBW/year.

Most won't fail, but endurance rating has got to be a stand in for general reliability, no? Also, I can't find it, but there was some SSD manufacturer (HP I think) that basically had the device self-destruct after hitting the endurance rating. I assume that was a rare practice, but I haven't seen anything recent on this.

Maybe, just looking at the results of some old tests, maybe my question should be: What's the best deal on a ~512GB SSD with DRAM?

Samsung 870 EVO, 500GB
$65

https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-500GB-Internal-MZ-77E500B-AM/dp/B08QBMD6P4/

SSD Product Warranty | Support | Samsung Semiconductor Global

Samsung ensures the best quality in all products and services beyond customer expectations. Warranty policy, conditions for Samsung Consumer and Portable SSD.

www.samsung.com

5 year/300TBW warranty

That gives your estimated 30TBW/yr out to 10 years.

But general consumer grade SSDs have been proven to last FAR beyond that warranty number.

 

[USAFRet]

For an NVMe, the 500GB 970 EVO Plus, $70
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-Plus-MZ-V7S500B/dp/B07M7Q21N7

 

[Stardude82]

Maybe, just looking at the results of some old tests, maybe my question should be: What's the best deal on a ~512GB SSD with DRAM?

For an NVMe, the 500GB 970 EVO Plus, $70
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-Plus-MZ-V7S500B/dp/B07M7Q21N7

::Stares at 2TB 970 EVO Plus in desktop::

Boring, but probably the right call.

Using current US PCPartPicker prices: SN550 (DRAM-less NVMe), WD Blue 3D or SanDisk Ultra 3D (DRAM SATA), EX920 (DRAM NVMe). Honorable mentions are the 670p (not recommended at that capacity) and S31 (also better at 1TB). If you're truly doing a lot of writes I would go with the WD/SanDisk drives since their static SLC is much more consistent. If you want that in DRAM + NVMe, any E12(S)-based drive like the MP34 will do.

If you absolutely want massive TBW then the E12 drives are probably your best bet.

Team Group MP34?
So... https://www.anandtech.com/show/14331/the-team-group-mp34-512gb-ssd-review/10

This looks better at the moment: https://www.newegg.com/silicon-power-p34a80-1tb/p/N82E16820301395

Stated TBW=1665. $93, 1TB. $58, 512GB. I think I like that. Nice low latency too which is good because the poorly written crap code I'm running.

 

[USAFRet]

Hrm...

PCIe 4.0 980 Pro only counts if the motherboard supports.

 

[Maxxify]

Team Group MP34?
So... https://www.anandtech.com/show/14331/the-team-group-mp34-512gb-ssd-review/10

This looks better at the moment: https://www.newegg.com/silicon-power-p34a80-1tb/p/N82E16820301395

Stated TBW=1665. $93, 1TB. $58, 512GB. I think I like that. Nice low latency too which is good because the poorly written crap code I'm running.

Most E12(S)-based drives have high TBW. There's tons of them by different manufacturers.

The P34A80 is problematic as it has changed hardware and may have multiple variants at this juncture. It's not a safe bet in hardware but I guess the TBW would presumably hold. Again, though, TBW is only for warrantied writes. If the drive survives five years, the TBW is meaningless past that point.

The E12 is a balanced controller and usually has a smallish dynamic cache which makes for consistent performance. There are faster drives for sustained writes but they tend to have lower TBW.

 

[Stardude82]

Most E12(S)-based drives have high TBW. There's tons of them by different manufacturers.

The P34A80 is problematic as it has changed hardware and may have multiple variants at this juncture. It's not a safe bet in hardware but I guess the TBW would presumably hold. Again, though, TBW is only for warrantied writes. If the drive survives five years, the TBW is meaningless past that point.

The E12 is a balanced controller and usually has a smallish dynamic cache which makes for consistent performance. There are faster drives for sustained writes but they tend to have lower TBW.

The M34 too. Bah, I'm just gonna sit tight for a deal on a P5 or 970 Evo Plus.

 

[Stardude82]

Picking up the E12S utilizing Neo Forza eSports NFP075 500 GB.

Tech Power-Up liked the 1TB version and it came out to half the price of the EVO Plus.

Neo Forza eSports NFP075 1 TB Review

The Neo Forza eSports NFP075 M.2 NVMe SSD is powered by the combination of a Phison E12 controller and YMTC 3D TLC flash, and a DRAM chip is included, too. Performance results are excellent, matching the fastest PCIe Gen 3 drives in our test group, and pricing is good, too.

www.techpowerup.com

I'll do pushup or something if it dies in 6 months.

Edit: I got it and don't see a notable performance difference from the TB drive in the article.