Valve Says No Steam Machines Until 2015

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It's smart for Steam to wait before it introduces their "console" since by release date, they'll be pumping out machines for $400-500, that will possibly have 3 gigaflops, or more; leaving both the PS4 and Xbox One in the dust.
 
Typical Valve. Extremely naive of them. So they are trying to equally dedicate time to the controller, the software, and the box. But all people really want is the box, and it doesn't matter how good the controller is if the software sucks and you have to install Windows on it. The controller is really the least important part, the 360 controller already has the most adoption in PC titles.
 
Typical Valve. Extremely naive of them. So they are trying to equally dedicate time to the controller, the software, and the box. But all people really want is the box, and it doesn't matter how good the controller is if the software sucks and you have to install Windows on it. The controller is really the least important part, the 360 controller already has the most adoption in PC titles.
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I tend to agree with you. I'd like to see them release the system without their controller and let the sellers bundle whichever controller they want with it. Then when their controller is ready, they can release it for some good PR.
 
Steam OS is linux based, so there are 3rd party controllers that are shaped like the PS4 and Xbox one controllers that will probably work fine with steam box.
 
I strongly disagree with above posts. Without a good controller, it's just another console. If it can come along with a better controller, decent price/performance and decent software, they've got a winner.
Doesn't matter if they have to wait a year or two after PS4/XB1 launch, specially if Steam Boxes can outperform consoles, cause console generations tend to last long.
 
I guess it is most likely is to wait more games to linux port to SteamOS. It does look a PR disaster if there isnt enough linux steam games when steamOS is released.
 
Why are they calling these "Steam Machines" - why not "Steam PC", "Steam HTPC" or "Steam Mini-PC". And why don't they call their Steam OS as "Steam Linux"...
 
You know a lot of the lower end Steam Machines have AMD CPUs and GPUs right?
As someone who actually runs an AMD based Linux PC I can honestly say the drivers are trash.
One set of drivers does 3d half decent, one set does video half decent and one set does 2d pretty good. Not one set of AMD drivers, be it proprietary, experimental or open source manage to do 2d, 3d and video acceleration worth a damn all together.
I'm seriously considering dumping my AMD laptop for Intel just because AMD driver support is so damn piss poor and Nvidia can be just as finicky depending on the card's architecture.
AMD and Nvidia a BOTH need to put out some good drivers before we can consider a Linux based OS as a gaming alternative.
I'm not a hater, I love Ubuntu on my laptop. I've just come to realize AMD's Linux support is currently terrible.
 
The controller looks like it needs to go back to the drawing board. I'm not going to be buying one of these especially when I have a computer already an the consoles that are out are good enough if I had wanted a console. That controller though, if it doesn't have actual thumbsticks than I know already that it would be a pain in my ass an I wouldn't enjoy it.
 
The controller looks like it needs to go back to the drawing board. I'm not going to be buying one of these especially when I have a computer already an the consoles that are out are good enough if I had wanted a console. That controller though, if it doesn't have actual thumbsticks than I know already that it would be a pain in my ass an I wouldn't enjoy it.
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the problem is that current controllers and new consoles aren't good enough.
These consoles can't even run games at full 1080, let alone 60fps. While this might not be a problem now, it will become one when we start to move to 4k content. A game like Watch Dogs is going to look like crap being upscaled from 792p to 4k, and on top of that it's going to be running at 30fps. On top of that, current controllers are designed for platformers and shooters. What about strategy games? Why can't we play those on a controller too? I want to play Civilization on my TV with a controller. I think that'd be awesome. Best part is, they've already shown it can be done seemlessly with the steam controller.

If you don't want to give the steam controller a chance, then don't. No one is going to force you too, but if they get this controller design right, then expect Microsoft and Sony to follow, just like when Microsoft redesigned their original xbox controller, and then with the xbox 360 they went with something that was closer to Sony's design.
 


I understand what you are saying but just looking at the controller as a person with no prior knowledge of any tests that have been done with the controller it looks wonky. Than again anything new normally has that design because it's different than what we are used to. You are right 4k is coming an the current consoles can't hold up to that standard even if you merged 5 of the same console together 4k would still laugh at them. Though at the same time a game is a game an I've never been one to need the best graphics. If it plays well an I have fun than it served it's purpose. Than again I haven't experienced 4k in person or a game played in a higher resolution than 1080p so my opinion is not worth a dime. I'd like to see what a difference 4k will bring to the table when speaking of games in general but as it sits right now the price of any monitor or tv capable of 4k resolution is out of budget for about 80% of the population. Hopefully prices will start to fall to a middle-class family budget before too long. Recently saw an Acer monitor 4k going for $650 but I'd never buy an Acer product as all their laptops I've ever seen are complete rubbish.
 
You know, in the Steam controller's defense...
The N-64 controller looked like some half baked aborted concept from a mad scientist and it turned out to be one of the most ingenious and well designed controllers I've ever used to this day.
I'm actually looking forward to trying one and seeing if its as revolutionary as they say it is.
 
I bet they're saying that the controller needs to be right, but they really are delaying it because they want to show off Half-Life 3 on it. Just a thought. But Half-Life 3 is "Worth The Wait"
 
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