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Has anyone heard anything about what clans will be in the new
edition?? Tremere are dead, as are the Lasombra and Tzimisce. Any
others turfed?? any ideas???
 
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JCMarshall wrote:

> Has anyone heard anything about what clans will be in the new
> edition?? Tremere are dead, as are the Lasombra and Tzimisce. Any
> others turfed?? any ideas???

You seem to have certain misconceptions.

WoD 2 is not a continuation of WoD 1. WoD 2 is... hmm. You know how
Hollywood will occasionally remake a movie, and it'll be completely
different but based on the same concept? Like how there are tons of
different Mummy movies and the characters in them are all different and
the only thing they really have in common is that they're all about
ancient Egypt somehow? (Except the ones that are about Incan mummies.)

WoD 2 will be like that. In WoD 2, WoD 1 will never have happened at
all -- it'll be a new take on "The real world, plus monsters."

We don't know if there will be clans at all. Even if there are, they
won't be the same clans we've seen before.

(Also, you really don't need to use multiple question marks. ?? means
the same thing as ?, but is more annoying to read.)
--
Stephenls
Geek
"I'm as impure as the driven yellow snow." -Spike
 
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JCMarshall wrote:

> Has anyone heard anything about what clans will be in the new
> edition?? Tremere are dead, as are the Lasombra and Tzimisce. Any
> others turfed?? any ideas???

Tremere Antitribu are confirmed for WoD 2.0, as are the True Brujah,
True Gangrel, and True Caitiff.
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WARNING: The above post may contain wildly inaccurate information.
 
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"Stephenls" wrote > You seem to have certain misconceptions.
>
<snip>
> WoD 2 will be like that. In WoD 2, WoD 1 will never have happened at
> all -- it'll be a new take on "The real world, plus monsters."


And it's called Vampire: The Requiem


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it you get yelled at."
 
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In the borning days of the third millennium, Richard Clayton wrote:
>JCMarshall wrote:
>
>> Has anyone heard anything about what clans will be in the new
>> edition?? Tremere are dead, as are the Lasombra and Tzimisce. Any
>> others turfed?? any ideas???
>
> Tremere Antitribu are confirmed for WoD 2.0, as are the True Brujah,
>True Gangrel, and True Caitiff.

How about the GFHoD Antitribu?

--
Brian Merchant (remove "example." to email me)

Reading Slashdot is like attending a meeting of Mensa in the same hall
where they're giving away WWF Smackdown tickets in exchange for chickens.
 
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JCMarshall wrote:
> Has anyone heard anything about what clans will be in the new
> edition?? Tremere are dead, as are the Lasombra and Tzimisce. Any
> others turfed?? any ideas???

I heared Ventrue & Gangrel will be in. Brujah will
be probably out to, because of the Gangrel.

- Igor
 
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Domon wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 21:49:10 -0400, Richard Clayton
> <reZIGclaytonZIG@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>>>Has anyone heard anything about what clans will be in the new
>>>edition?? Tremere are dead, as are the Lasombra and Tzimisce. Any
>>>others turfed?? any ideas???
>>
>> Tremere Antitribu are confirmed for WoD 2.0, as are the True Brujah,
>>True Gangrel, and True Caitiff.
>
> don't forget the Night Caste Antitribu, also known as Day Caste.

Actually, the /Exalted Player's Guide/ reveals a major metaplot secret
in /Exalted/: There are no Abyssal Exalted. At ALL. It is all a sham
made up by Solars who need a good excuse to shop at Hot Topic.
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delusional foreign delinquents."
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 21:49:10 -0400, Richard Clayton
<reZIGclaytonZIG@verizon.net> wrote:

>> Has anyone heard anything about what clans will be in the new
>> edition?? Tremere are dead, as are the Lasombra and Tzimisce. Any
>> others turfed?? any ideas???
>
> Tremere Antitribu are confirmed for WoD 2.0, as are the True Brujah,
>True Gangrel, and True Caitiff.

don't forget the Night Caste Antitribu, also known as Day Caste.
--
i hope she fries
i'm free if that bitch dies...
....i'd better help her out...
Domon
per rispondermi, togli il FILTRO!
 
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:31:05 -0400, Richard Clayton
<reZIGclaytonZIG@verizon.net> wrote:

>> don't forget the Night Caste Antitribu, also known as Day Caste.
>
> Actually, the /Exalted Player's Guide/ reveals a major metaplot secret
>in /Exalted/: There are no Abyssal Exalted. At ALL. It is all a sham
>made up by Solars who need a good excuse to shop at Hot Topic.

well, i knew it from the tidbits they inserted in exalted: the
sidereals.
anyway, it is true that some solars (expecially ugly ones) are
actually researching a way of becaming abyssals, just to became more
beautiful and to drink blood (drinking blood is really good,
expecially if you have something like "chianti-evoking gesture" at
your disposal to enjoy it fully 😀
--
i hope she fries
i'm free if that bitch dies...
....i'd better help her out...
Domon
per rispondermi, togli il FILTRO!
 
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"Triple E" <ewschill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:66dd031a.0404150915.4e33f213@posting.google.com...
> JCMarshall <jcmarshall@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:<j6rr70ljb0mu739sb9fqfdfv1m7gk3dueg@4ax.com>...
> > Has anyone heard anything about what clans will be in the new
> > edition?? Tremere are dead, as are the Lasombra and Tzimisce. Any
> > others turfed?? any ideas???
>
> The names "Ventrue", "Nosferatu", and "Gangrel" are supposed to show
> up (this is a confirmed rumor), but we don't know if those will be
> clans, social strata, or what. It's very possible Requiem will have
> completely clanless vampires, and the splats in the game are simply
> various political camps. Or, there might be several different
> progenitors and ways vampires are made (none of this Caine business),
> and it's even more separated than before.
>
> Frankly, we don't know much of anything really. It is all just
> conjecture at this point.
>
> ~EEE~

I'm still hoping that they REALLY mix things up for the new WoD.

ie.

Vampires "Monsters we are lest things even worse destroy all that we have
ever cared for."

Vampires are those whose souls have been to the other side and who have seen
the blasphemies that exist there, constantly seeking to suborn our own world
to their own horrid will. Returned to a world that they can no longer fully
be a part of, vampires are forced to feed off of the very humans whom they
must protect from horrid things beyond mortal conception (a wretched
existence, but infinitely better than the fate of those captured and
enslaved by their supernatural adversaries).

Because of their time soaking up blasphemous energies in a realm of
indescribable monstrosity, all vampires are repelled by religious symbols
(but don't believe that thing about bursting into flame when exposed to
sunlight; although daylight robs them of their strength it will not kill
them).

Werewolves "Cursed to destroy."

Unwitting pawns of the twisted powers from beyond, these pathetic wretches
constantly battle against the malefic disease which threatens to reduce them
to near-mindless rabid beasts. Gathering in hidden societies in futile
attempts to retain their human nature (or reveling in their monstrosity),
they spend their existence battling themselves, each other and the vampire
vigilantes who decry them as "tools of the earth-killers."

Contrary to popular conception, silver has no special effect on werewolves
(although wolfsbane is HIGHLY toxic to them).

-Essex
 
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"Essex" <mopperma@suffolk.lib.ny.us> wrote in message news:<2kFfc.278$Ho2.8000@dfw-read.news.verio.net>...
> "Triple E" <ewschill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:66dd031a.0404150915.4e33f213@posting.google.com...
> > JCMarshall <jcmarshall@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:<j6rr70ljb0mu739sb9fqfdfv1m7gk3dueg@4ax.com>...
> > > Has anyone heard anything about what clans will be in the new
> > > edition?? Tremere are dead, as are the Lasombra and Tzimisce. Any
> > > others turfed?? any ideas???
> >
> > The names "Ventrue", "Nosferatu", and "Gangrel" are supposed to show
> > up (this is a confirmed rumor), but we don't know if those will be
> > clans, social strata, or what. It's very possible Requiem will have
> > completely clanless vampires, and the splats in the game are simply
> > various political camps. Or, there might be several different
> > progenitors and ways vampires are made (none of this Caine business),
> > and it's even more separated than before.
> >
> > Frankly, we don't know much of anything really. It is all just
> > conjecture at this point.
> >
> > ~EEE~
>
> I'm still hoping that they REALLY mix things up for the new WoD.
>
> ie.

<snip examples>

Or maybe they could get *really* crazy, and declare that while the
world is indeed on an inevitable downward spiral to apocalyptic ruin,
the player characters actually have a chance to *change* that, rather
than simply working to ensure that their own eventual demises are as
stylishly tragic as possible. 😉

- Sir Bob.
 
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Richard Clayton <reZIGclaytonZIG@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<c5m6d7$3ao3c$2@ID-224727.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> Domon wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 21:49:10 -0400, Richard Clayton
> > <reZIGclaytonZIG@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>Has anyone heard anything about what clans will be in the new
> >>>edition?? Tremere are dead, as are the Lasombra and Tzimisce. Any
> >>>others turfed?? any ideas???
> >>
> >> Tremere Antitribu are confirmed for WoD 2.0, as are the True Brujah,
> >>True Gangrel, and True Caitiff.
> >
> > don't forget the Night Caste Antitribu, also known as Day Caste.
>
> Actually, the /Exalted Player's Guide/ reveals a major metaplot secret
> in /Exalted/: There are no Abyssal Exalted. At ALL. It is all a sham
> made up by Solars who need a good excuse to shop at Hot Topic.

Hey, if they've got products at Hot Topic these days that let you
bleed from the eyes on command, sign me up. 😉

- Sir Bob.
 
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Sir Bob wrote:
> "Essex" <mopperma@suffolk.lib.ny.us> wrote in message news:<2kFfc.278$Ho2.8000@dfw-read.news.verio.net>...
>
>>"Triple E" <ewschill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:66dd031a.0404150915.4e33f213@posting.google.com...
>>
>>>JCMarshall <jcmarshall@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>
>> news:<j6rr70ljb0mu739sb9fqfdfv1m7gk3dueg@4ax.com>...
>>
>>>>Has anyone heard anything about what clans will be in the new
>>>>edition?? Tremere are dead, as are the Lasombra and Tzimisce. Any
>>>>others turfed?? any ideas???
>>>
>>> The names "Ventrue", "Nosferatu", and "Gangrel" are supposed to show
>>>up (this is a confirmed rumor), but we don't know if those will be
>>>clans, social strata, or what. It's very possible Requiem will have
>>>completely clanless vampires, and the splats in the game are simply
>>>various political camps. Or, there might be several different
>>>progenitors and ways vampires are made (none of this Caine business),
>>>and it's even more separated than before.
>>>
>>> Frankly, we don't know much of anything really. It is all just
>>>conjecture at this point.
>>>
>>>~EEE~
>>
>>I'm still hoping that they REALLY mix things up for the new WoD.
>>
>>ie.
>
>
> <snip examples>
>
> Or maybe they could get *really* crazy, and declare that while the
> world is indeed on an inevitable downward spiral to apocalyptic ruin,
> the player characters actually have a chance to *change* that, rather
> than simply working to ensure that their own eventual demises are as
> stylishly tragic as possible. 😉

You are insufficiently gothy. You are not allowed to play White Wolf
games any more!

Damn trendoids, playing /Vampire/ just because it's COOL now... HAH! I
was playing /Vampire/ when it still meant being beaten by jocks after
school. Now please excuse me, there is a Bauhaus set scheduled tonight
at my favorite club, "Tres Nihilistic."
--
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"I wasn't aware the Tokyo police employed uneducated, paranoid,
delusional foreign delinquents."
"In my case, they made an exception."
-- MegaTokyo
 
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On 16 Apr 2004 06:53:37 -0700, sirbob@penguinking.com (Sir Bob) wrote:

>Or maybe they could get *really* crazy, and declare that while the
>world is indeed on an inevitable downward spiral to apocalyptic ruin,
>the player characters actually have a chance to *change* that, rather
>than simply working to ensure that their own eventual demises are as
>stylishly tragic as possible. 😉

this is really impossible. no WW product could say *that*! 😀
--
i hope she fries
i'm free if that bitch dies...
....i'd better help her out...
Domon
per rispondermi, togli il FILTRO!
 
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Richard Clayton wrote:
> Tremere Antitribu are confirmed for WoD 2.0, as are the True Brujah,
> True Gangrel, and True Caitiff.

WHAT!!! No True Caitiff Antitribu ? Where the heck are the True Caitiff
Antitribu ??? How dare they shun them they were my FAVORITE CLAN evar I
HATE you White Wolf.
I want my money back !!!!!

--
Francois
I DID NOT INVENT IRISH DANCING
Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 5F03
 
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Domon wrote:
>
> On 16 Apr 2004 06:53:37 -0700, sirbob@penguinking.com (Sir Bob) wrote:
>
> >Or maybe they could get *really* crazy, and declare that while the
> >world is indeed on an inevitable downward spiral to apocalyptic ruin,
> >the player characters actually have a chance to *change* that, rather
> >than simply working to ensure that their own eventual demises are as
> >stylishly tragic as possible. 😉
>
> this is really impossible. no WW product could say *that*! 😀

Except for Adventure!, Aberrant, Trinity, and Exalted?

--
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Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG
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Julie d'Aubigny wrote:
> Except for Adventure!, Aberrant, Trinity, and Exalted?
>

And Mummy!
 
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In the borning days of the third millennium, Julie d'Aubigny wrote:
>Domon wrote:
>> this is really impossible. no WW product could say *that*! 😀
>
>Except for Adventure!, Aberrant, Trinity, and Exalted?

Those don't count!!!


[Because they invalidate the premise, that's why. No playing against
stereotype allowed.]

--
Brian Merchant (remove "example." to email me)

Reading Slashdot is like attending a meeting of Mensa in the same hall
where they're giving away WWF Smackdown tickets in exchange for chickens.
 
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"Brian Merchant" <cheebieREMOVE2001@comcast.example.net> wrote in message
news:t5m0805g2aeug6dn55vb4erf8t9mp6v058@4ax.com...
> In the borning days of the third millennium, Julie d'Aubigny wrote:
> >Domon wrote:
> >> this is really impossible. no WW product could say *that*! 😀
> >
> >Except for Adventure!, Aberrant, Trinity, and Exalted?
>
> Those don't count!!!
>
>
> [Because they invalidate the premise, that's why. No playing against
> stereotype allowed.]

Or perhaps because none of them are set in the World of Darkness. 😉

*cue obligatory "alternate history" flamewar*

- Sir Bob.
 
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JCMarshall wrote:

> Has anyone heard anything about what clans will be in the new
> edition?? Tremere are dead, as are the Lasombra and Tzimisce. Any
> others turfed?? any ideas???
>


Is there going to be a new edition of the PC game? Cool!





















PS: Yes, I know he meant Vampire the Requiem.


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"Ian A. A. Watson" wrote:
>
> Julie d'Aubigny wrote:
> > Except for Adventure!, Aberrant, Trinity, and Exalted?
> >
>
> And Mummy!

I exclude WoD games because the world sort of ended. :)

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"David Prokopetz"
> "Brian Merchant"
> > In the borning days of the third millennium, Julie d'Aubigny wrote:

> > >Except for Adventure!, Aberrant, Trinity, and Exalted?

> > Those don't count!!!

> > [Because they invalidate the premise, that's why. No playing against
> > stereotype allowed.]

> Or perhaps because none of them are set in the World of Darkness. 😉

Or because the World of Darkness isn't set in the World of Darkness anymore.

End of the world and all.


------------
Shane Graves
 
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David Prokopetz wrote:
>
> "Brian Merchant" <cheebieREMOVE2001@comcast.example.net> wrote in message
> news:t5m0805g2aeug6dn55vb4erf8t9mp6v058@4ax.com...
> > In the borning days of the third millennium, Julie d'Aubigny wrote:
> > >Domon wrote:
> > >> this is really impossible. no WW product could say *that*! 😀
> > >
> > >Except for Adventure!, Aberrant, Trinity, and Exalted?
> >
> > Those don't count!!!
> >
> >
> > [Because they invalidate the premise, that's why. No playing against
> > stereotype allowed.]
>
> Or perhaps because none of them are set in the World of Darkness. 😉
>
> *cue obligatory "alternate history" flamewar*

Well, hey, I'm responding to: "no WW product could say that! 😀" which I
know the original poster meant in jest.

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Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG
AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol
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"Julie d'Aubigny" <kali.magdalene@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:40809327.FA6CC24E@comcast.net...
> David Prokopetz wrote:
> >
> > "Brian Merchant" <cheebieREMOVE2001@comcast.example.net> wrote in
message
> > news:t5m0805g2aeug6dn55vb4erf8t9mp6v058@4ax.com...
> > > In the borning days of the third millennium, Julie d'Aubigny wrote:
> > > >Domon wrote:
> > > >> this is really impossible. no WW product could say *that*! 😀
> > > >
> > > >Except for Adventure!, Aberrant, Trinity, and Exalted?
> > >
> > > Those don't count!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > [Because they invalidate the premise, that's why. No playing against
> > > stereotype allowed.]
> >
> > Or perhaps because none of them are set in the World of Darkness. 😉
> >
> > *cue obligatory "alternate history" flamewar*
>
> Well, hey, I'm responding to: "no WW product could say that! 😀" which I
> know the original poster meant in jest.

Aw, you're no fun - you're shoot back Exalted *is* set in the World of
Darkness, employing a complicated and poorly-thought-out analogy between
Abyssals and vampires, sparking a snarky flamewar that goes on for days.

- Sir Bob.
 
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David Prokopetz wrote:
>
> "Julie d'Aubigny" <kali.magdalene@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:40809327.FA6CC24E@comcast.net...
> > David Prokopetz wrote:
> > >
> > > "Brian Merchant" <cheebieREMOVE2001@comcast.example.net> wrote in
> message
> > > news:t5m0805g2aeug6dn55vb4erf8t9mp6v058@4ax.com...
> > > > In the borning days of the third millennium, Julie d'Aubigny wrote:
> > > > >Domon wrote:
> > > > >> this is really impossible. no WW product could say *that*! 😀
> > > > >
> > > > >Except for Adventure!, Aberrant, Trinity, and Exalted?
> > > >
> > > > Those don't count!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Because they invalidate the premise, that's why. No playing against
> > > > stereotype allowed.]
> > >
> > > Or perhaps because none of them are set in the World of Darkness. 😉
> > >
> > > *cue obligatory "alternate history" flamewar*
> >
> > Well, hey, I'm responding to: "no WW product could say that! 😀" which I
> > know the original poster meant in jest.
>
> Aw, you're no fun - you're shoot back Exalted *is* set in the World of
> Darkness, employing a complicated and poorly-thought-out analogy between
> Abyssals and vampires, sparking a snarky flamewar that goes on for days.

Well, Exalted is set in the past of the WoD that my Mage game of a few
years back was run in, and even featured one artifact/wonder/creature
that appeared in said Mage game (the Elemental Dragon of Fire appeared
in the Mage game, too, but that was before I'd heard of Exalted and have
no recollection as to why I chose that).

So, everyone's game should be like mine.

--
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Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG
AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol
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