I want nothing more than for AMD to succeed with their GPUs, but There's a reason AMD has been so tight lipped with this card and still haven't released proper benchmarks or even showing the card in action with an FPS counter. And there's also a reason is it coming bundled with savings cards. It's because the card doesnt perform well enough, the leaked benches are legit, they show the card barely able to compete with Nvidias year and a half old cards, GTX 1070, 1080. If AMD had a competitive card, they would have been marketing it and showing benches. Instead they are doing everything they can to delay and hide the performance numbers. Add in the fact that this card is going to run hotter than hell, especially with that joke of a reference cooler, and then you have thermal throttling issues and a PC that sounds like a jet engine while playing games. I might pick up an aftermarket card in Sept with a proper cooler, but still I'm pretty dissapointed in Vega, as i think most consumers are going to be. And no way Vega will be used for mining Eth. Its too power hungry, and the value of Eth dropped but the difficulty spiked so the Eth mining craze should already be over.