News Vendor Had Twenty 16-Pin Adapter Meltdowns Among Tens of Thousands Sold

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Just because the connector has some convenience factors in it (like it can only fit in one direction) doesn't mean anything about it's fool proofness. I mean, we may as well say anyone who gets electrocuted from a NEMA connector is an idiot because they didn't insert it in all the way. The fact that the connector can be live before it's inserted in all the way, which can be as little as about half way in, is a problem when this connector is expected to be used by anyone.

Hence why there is such an endless tide of fools. If you don't know what a NEMA connector is, maybe don't touch it, and if you do, you bear the consequences of anything that happens because it would be foolish to do so without knowing what it is.

"Anyone" isn't expected to be tinkering with the hardware inside their PC.

Anyone, who buys a 2000 dollar graphics card should be someone who at least has intention of doing so, unless they are a fool.

 

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The 12VHPwr fails to meet the last two points: I have to make sure the thing is seated all the way in, I have to make sure there isn't a lot of bend near the connector, and if it fails, well, we all know how that turns out.

If they really wanted to make the connector foolproof when used in accordance with instructions, they should have made the "sense" pins ACTUALLY SENSE PSU-side output voltage (sacrifice one 12V and one GND pin from the 3/4x8-pins for voltage sensing) so the GPU can monitor total cable + connector voltage drop and throttle the current limit accordingly to keep total wiring losses below the maximum safe limit. Then, melting connectors would only be possible if you bypass the safety monitoring or the GPU's monitoring circuit is defective.

 

[TerryLaze]

20 in >20,000 - or a 0.1% issue rate - sure seems like only the most talented of fools are managing to have any issues.

I didn't say that the cablemod plug is a bad solution to the burns.
Yes, the solution to the problem has a 0.1% failure rate(or whatever it is since they didn't actual reveal any numbers and just said "amounting to a failure rate of less than 1% " ) , that's adequately foolproof to a normal person.
But you shouldn't be forced to pay that extra money on such an expensive card.

 

[edzieba]

or whatever it is since they didn't actual reveal any numbers and just said "amounting to a failure rate of less than 1% "

They quoted 20 failures, and 'tens f thousands sold', so I used the msot conservative possible interpretation of 20,000 sold (any more would push the failure percentage even lower).

But you shouldn't be forced to pay that extra money on such an expensive card.

Unless you are one of the aforementioned fools at the peak of their talent, you are not 'forced' to purchase any adapters, merely 'forced' to take due care in ensuring a connector is fully connected.

 

[TerryLaze]

They quoted 20 failures, and 'tens f thousands sold', so I used the msot conservative possible interpretation of 20,000 sold (any more would push the failure percentage even lower).

Tom's also calls 10 years decades....

Desktop GPU Sales Lowest in Decades: Report

Nvidia continued to dominate in Q2 2023 amid inventory correction, says Jon Peddie Research.

www.tomshardware.com

Unless you are one of the aforementioned fools at the peak of their talent, you are not 'forced' to purchase any adapters, merely 'forced' to take due care in ensuring a connector is fully connected.

We can talk about that when and if we get numbers on how high the failure rate is on the normal connector without using the cablemod solution.

 

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Tom's also calls 10 years decades....

Desktop GPU Sales Lowest in Decades: Report

Nvidia continued to dominate in Q2 2023 amid inventory correction, says Jon Peddie Research.

www.tomshardware.com

We can talk about that when and if we get numbers on how high the failure rate is on the normal connector without using the cablemod solution.

So we can calculate a minimum amount of 4090's in the wild with steam data. In May there were 25.36 million steam users. May's steam survey revealed that 0.44% of its users had 4090's. This means there are at least 1,111,440 4090's sold. If we then take triple the amount of purported 4090 connectors burned (60) we get to an even lesser rate of ~0.0054% occurrence rate. In other words, extremely talented fools...