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More info?)
lexmark had (still has?) a net printing utility that was pretty powerful
in terms of discovering devices. Macintosh compatible? don't know.
Believe it was called Markvision
one man army wrote:
> CJT, that's a pretty clear recipe to talk to a printer with a known IP
> address, not in the current subnet range. Thank you, I appreciate that
> clarity.
>
> I am still looking for a way to search for printers with unknown
> addresses.
>
> also, someone just confirmed that LPR is "the same" as IP, so a printer
> with LPR support will respond to IP inquiries.
>
> The problem generally is that when setting up a printer in Mac OS 10.3,
> there are 3 main protocols listed under "IP Printing", all requiring me
> to type in my printer's <unknown or problematic> IP address.
>
> IP Printing
> LPD/LPR
> Internet Printing Protocol
> Socket/HP Jet Direct
>
>
>
>
>>CJT wrote:
>>
>>
>>>one man army wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>No, and No. Sorry.
>>>>
>>>> The latest version of JetAdmin seems to be for other machines
>>>>besides mine. Going to the printer and "setting it to anything I want"
>>>>is a problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>Temporarily take a computer and the errant printer off the network and
>>>hook them together using a hub or switch and some cable. Change the
>>>IP address of the computer to one that's compatible with (on the same
>>>subnet as) the current address of the printer. Change the IP address
>>>of the printer using either telnet or the printer's Web interface.
>>>Change the IP address of the computer back to what it was. Hook it
>>>and the printer back up to their regular position in the network. Be
>>>happy.
>>>
>>>Simple enough for you?
>>
>>BTW, you could also do this without the separate network stuff -- I put
>>that in there to make sure it would be safe no matter what else might
>>be connected to your network (e.g. in case you've got some other devices
>>on the 192.168.2.0 subnet that might be interfered with); you could also
>>just temporarily change the IP address of your Mac as-is.
>>
>>
>>>> I am interestd in a tool to have some ability to handle this problem
>>>>in general. Your quick fix answer ignores written details in the
>>>>post, and assumes I have not tried the basic approaches. I am not an
>>>>IP expert, but am not unable to use a computer, either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In article <4330DACA.1010201@prodigy.net>, CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>CJT wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>one man army wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nope, not an LCD screen in sight. I don't really want to change the
>>>>>>>subnet to 192.168.2.x because there is another section of the
>>>>>>>warehouse that is already on the subnet and using it.
>>>>>>> This brings up the general question - if I have a JetDirect, and
>>>>>>>don't have the luxory of a config page, how to scan for the
>>>>>>>address? A net dude told me I look for a range of assigned MAC
>>>>>>>addresses for the vender, and do some kind of scan for MAC
>>>>>>>addresses. When I go to the only piece of sfwr I know if to do
>>>>>>>that, IPNetMonitorX, there is a beildering array of protocols for
>>>>>>>each of UDP and TCP shown to choose from, and nothing that I can
>>>>>>>see that says "scan for connected MAC addresses"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is apparently something like "HP IP Printing" defined in a
>>>>>>>number of apps, like our standard Printer Utility, but choosing
>>>>>>>does NOT perform a lookup in the local subnet - it expects us to
>>>>>>>know the address already and type it in. Dang, this is hard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems SO straightforward, this config. Why on earth is this not
>>>>>>>solved?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Go to HP's web site and get a copy of JetAdmin (or find the CD that
>>>>>>came
>>>>>>with the printer and use the setup routines on that).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry, I see from an earlier post that you're on a Mac. So get the MAC
>>>>>version of HP's setup routines. And I also see that you KNOW the IP
>>>>>address. So you can also temporarily set a machine to a compatible
>>>>>subnet and change it to whatever you like.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Or perhaps it's a printer with an LCD screen that allows you to
>>>>>>>>set IP
>>>>>>>>parameters through the front panel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike Berger wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You'll have to set up a computer on the same network first -- set
>>>>>>>>>the computer's address to 192.168.2.51, for example, and you should
>>>>>>>>>be able to telnet to the printer and change the address.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>one man army wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I have a printer sitting here on a local net behind a
>>>>>>>>>>Linksys->DSL. The Linksys assigns DHCP addresses starting at
>>>>>>>>>>192.168.1.100 (configurable). The subnet mask for the links is
>>>>>>>>>>ONLY allowed to be 255.255.255.x, where x is currently 0, but
>>>>>>>>>>can be about 6 pre-picked numbers from a popup.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The printer test page is showing an IP address of 192.168.2.52,
>>>>>>>>>>with Appletalk active even. Am I surmising correctly that I
>>>>>>>>>>can't see this printer no matter what I do? How do I configure
>>>>>>>>>>this? I am confused. The Web JetAdmin program only runs on
>>>>>>>>>>windows, I have Mac OS 10.3 or 9.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>They say I could even telnet to it, but the telnet and ping get
>>>>>>>>>>no results.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Please advise
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
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