Very good pc Running games on low fps

[Abra_1]

I have a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 processor : AMD 10 7800APU
Ram : 8GB

I have low fps even on GTA San Andreas -.-

 

[Dragos Manea]

Did you installed all drivers including nvidia video driver? Did you plugged the monitor into the nvidia videocard and not in the integrated videocard?

 

[GizmoMKD]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Abra_1 : "Very good pc Running games on low fps"

I have a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 processor : AMD 10 7800APU
Ram : 8GB

I have low fps even on GTA San Andreas -.-

Thats ... not a very good PC, but ages old game shouldn't be a problem. Did you install latest driver?

make sure your windows is clean, not affected by virus or any bitcoin program running at background.

 

[sizzling]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Abra_1 : "Very good pc Running games on low fps"

I have a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 processor : AMD 10 7800APU
Ram : 8GB

I have low fps even on GTA San Andreas -.-

Is your monitor plugged into the gpu or motherboard? Should be the gpu.

Also this is not a very good gaming pc, your CPU is very weak and old and paired with an entry level gpu. However SA should run well on it, its an old game.

 

[13thmonkey]

Please stop making multiple threads on the same topic.

 

[Bahazbz]

I had a friend with a similar issue, only he had a freshly built $1300 PC with a 1070 and was getting 19 fps in Dragon Age origins.

May I ask how low your fps is exactly. If you have fraps, you can use that to determine an general average number.

If your fps is constantly below 25fps, you are likely using the integrated graphics processor inside your APU, instead of your discrete GPU, resulting in weak graphical performance.

Like sizzling said above, check your cables: The video cable must be plugged into the 1050 itself in order to receive the benefit of having a discrete GPU installed, not plugged into the motherboard.

Second, open your case and take
a look at the 1050. My friends problem was that the 1050 was not in use at all because it was not seated in the pci-e lane properly. *Carefully* pull out the 1050 and reseat it in the same spot.

If that is not the problem check your Nvidia drivers. If they are not up to date or not installed at all that may be why the GPU is not activating.

San Andreas is not a hard game to run, (Runs flawlessly on max setting on the k2100m in my crappy work laptop). I'm sorry you are having this issue. I am sure we all would love to help, but we will likely need some more information to be as effective as possible. Can you post the average frame rate we are talking about so we all know exactly what "low fps" means.

 

[Abra_1]

well i'll try and put the graphic card back in

 

[Abra_1]

I had a friend with a similar issue, only he had a freshly built $1300 PC with a 1070 and was getting 19 fps in Dragon Age origins.

May I ask how low your fps is exactly. If you have fraps, you can use that to determine an general average number.

If your fps is constantly below 25fps, you are likely using the integrated graphics processor inside your APU, instead of your discrete GPU, resulting in weak graphical performance.

Like sizzling said above, check your cables: The video cable must be plugged into the 1050 itself in order to receive the benefit of having a discrete GPU installed, not plugged into the motherboard.

Second, open your case and take
a look at the 1050. My friends problem was that the 1050 was not in use at all because it was not seated in the pci-e lane properly. *Carefully* pull out the 1050 and reseat it in the same spot.

If that is not the problem check your Nvidia drivers. If they are not up to date or not installed at all that may be why the GPU is not activating.

San Andreas is not a hard game to run, (Runs flawlessly on max setting on the k2100m in my crappy work laptop). I'm sorry you are having this issue. I am sure we all would love to help, but we will likely need some more information to be as effective as possible. Can you post the average frame rate we are talking about so we all know exactly what "low fps" means.

I tried what you told me but i still get like 34 fps while my friend got the same 1050 and he he tried gta sa aswell and he was playing on 100+ fps
and the HDMI is inside the graphic card port

 

[Bahazbz]

I had a friend with a similar issue, only he had a freshly built $1300 PC with a 1070 and was getting 19 fps in Dragon Age origins.

May I ask how low your fps is exactly. If you have fraps, you can use that to determine an general average number.

If your fps is constantly below 25fps, you are likely using the integrated graphics processor inside your APU, instead of your discrete GPU, resulting in weak graphical performance.

Like sizzling said above, check your cables: The video cable must be plugged into the 1050 itself in order to receive the benefit of having a discrete GPU installed, not plugged into the motherboard.

Second, open your case and take
a look at the 1050. My friends problem was that the 1050 was not in use at all because it was not seated in the pci-e lane properly. *Carefully* pull out the 1050 and reseat it in the same spot.

If that is not the problem check your Nvidia drivers. If they are not up to date or not installed at all that may be why the GPU is not activating.

San Andreas is not a hard game to run, (Runs flawlessly on max setting on the k2100m in my crappy work laptop). I'm sorry you are having this issue. I am sure we all would love to help, but we will likely need some more information to be as effective as possible. Can you post the average frame rate we are talking about so we all know exactly what "low fps" means.

I tried what you told me but i still get like 34 fps while my friend got the same 1050 and he he tried gta sa aswell and he was playing on 100+ fps
and the HDMI is inside the graphic card port

Assuming all your hardware and drivers corrected as necessary, the next step would be to get your hands on some GPU monitoring software. I can highly recommend MSI Afterburner. It will allow you to see exactly what is going on with both your CPU and GPU including temps, percentage usage by core, and even clock speed(Assuming you can configure it properly). Don't worry, you don't need an MSI card for it to work, it is universal. Take a look at some of those stats while you play next time, and report back with what you find. The more details you gather the more efficiently we can all help you.

What I suspect is your GPU is not operating under full load for some reason. I will admit I am unsure of why it would be doing this, but I had a problem a while back where Farcry 3 was locking itself at 34fps for no reason on a fairly nice GPU. Right now I don't know what to do to fix that, but if you can identify that as your problem it becomes much easier to search around the web for "GTX 1050 25% load" (Replacing 25% with whatever percentage load you are stuck at). If you are above 90% load the entire time, this is not your issue.

You should also try out some other games with fraps running. See if you get similar results in all games or just San Andreas. I will warn you, this is the point where troubleshooting becomes very involved and complicated, so if you are not ready to devote serious time to getting San Andreas running properly, one option is to just stick with what you have and try to enjoy the game as best as you can, even if the frame rate is non-optimal. Again, sorry you are having issues like this on a game that should be running flawlessly on your system.

Wish you luck, and let me know if you discover anything else.

-Bahazbz

 

[Abra_1]

I have a bottleneck that's all ... can you recommend me other CPUS?

 

[Bahazbz]

I have a bottleneck that's all ... can you recommend me other CPUS?

You are absolutely sure you have a bottleneck? Did you confirm this by looking at your by core usage on the CPU in Afterburner? How do you know? Just curious.

If you are in need of a new CPU, You need one that fits in your socket first and foremost. I can see the CPU fits an FM2+ socket, but I want to be sure first. Can we get your Mobo's name please? Well need that before recommending anything specific.

I will admit that I am not familiar with the AMD APU family, but I don't believe that your processor could be the bottleneck, as San Andreas is not a hard game to run by any account. I can't imagine the game putting so much stress on the APU that you would be limited to constant 34fps. Always be sure you absolutely know exactly what the problem is before spending the time and money upgrading.

-Bahazbz

 

[Abra_1]

I have a bottleneck that's all ... can you recommend me other CPUS?

You are absolutely sure you have a bottleneck? Did you confirm this by looking at your by core usage on the CPU in Afterburner? How do you know? Just curious.

If you are in need of a new CPU, You need one that fits in your socket first and foremost. I can see the CPU fits an FM2+ socket, but I want to be sure first. Can we get your Mobo's name please? Well need that before recommending anything specific.

I will admit that I am not familiar with the AMD APU family, but I don't believe that your processor could be the bottleneck, as San Andreas is not a hard game to run by any account. I can't imagine the game putting so much stress on the APU that you would be limited to constant 34fps. Always be sure you absolutely know exactly what the problem is before spending the time and money upgrading.

-Bahazbz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQkCxrVtcWQ


this video has my same spec I think I'll have to upgrade my CPU and get maybe a Intel Pentium Dual Core G4560 3.5 GHz CPU - Black
will it work??

 

[Bahazbz]

I have a bottleneck that's all ... can you recommend me other CPUS?

You are absolutely sure you have a bottleneck? Did you confirm this by looking at your by core usage on the CPU in Afterburner? How do you know? Just curious.

If you are in need of a new CPU, You need one that fits in your socket first and foremost. I can see the CPU fits an FM2+ socket, but I want to be sure first. Can we get your Mobo's name please? Well need that before recommending anything specific.

I will admit that I am not familiar with the AMD APU family, but I don't believe that your processor could be the bottleneck, as San Andreas is not a hard game to run by any account. I can't imagine the game putting so much stress on the APU that you would be limited to constant 34fps. Always be sure you absolutely know exactly what the problem is before spending the time and money upgrading.

-Bahazbz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQkCxrVtcWQ


this video has my same spec I think I'll have to upgrade my CPU and get maybe a Intel Pentium Dual Core G4560 3.5 GHz CPU - Black
will it work??

The video you found was not what we had in mind. It gives no onscreen frame-rate, nor does it show the in-game settings for visual quality. I would not trust it.


You cannot upgrade from an AMD platform to an intel one without switching to the appropriate socket type for the intel CPU. If you want to upgrade to a Pentium, you will need to buy another motherboard and swap it out with your current one. This will involve waiting for parts to arrive, tearing down your entire system, taking everything out, putting in the new board, then putting everything else back in as well as rewiring everything, etc. This is all assuming your power supply can handle the new load, and you have all the right cables and connectors you need. It will be a lot of work, and you will want the help of an experienced builder if you are not familiar with modern PC building.

You will not need a new motherboard if you go with another FM2 compatible CPU. However, I am not sure if buying another APU is the right move for you, as all FM2 APUs will be quite old and slow compared to modern CPUs out on the market today. Again, can we get your Motherboard's model please? It will likely have FM2 in the name.

If you really feel it is worth the effort to upgrade to a G4350, I would strongly recommend a new build entirely. One that will take full advantage of all the parts you already have, otherwise you will likely be disappointed with the performance no matter what you change. You would need to talk to an experienced builder for some help choosing parts before you buy them. They would also need be there in person to help you put everything together in the new build, unless you are willing to put in the 120+ hours of research to learn everything you need to know to do it yourself.

Have you tried other games? Have you for sure identified the problem? The more information you give the more we can help.

Sorry for the bad news. Let me know what you are thinking.

-Bahazbz

 

[Abra_1]

I have a bottleneck that's all ... can you recommend me other CPUS?

You are absolutely sure you have a bottleneck? Did you confirm this by looking at your by core usage on the CPU in Afterburner? How do you know? Just curious.

If you are in need of a new CPU, You need one that fits in your socket first and foremost. I can see the CPU fits an FM2+ socket, but I want to be sure first. Can we get your Mobo's name please? Well need that before recommending anything specific.

I will admit that I am not familiar with the AMD APU family, but I don't believe that your processor could be the bottleneck, as San Andreas is not a hard game to run by any account. I can't imagine the game putting so much stress on the APU that you would be limited to constant 34fps. Always be sure you absolutely know exactly what the problem is before spending the time and money upgrading.

-Bahazbz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQkCxrVtcWQ


this video has my same spec I think I'll have to upgrade my CPU and get maybe a Intel Pentium Dual Core G4560 3.5 GHz CPU - Black
will it work??

The video you found was not what we had in mind. It gives no onscreen frame-rate, nor does it show the in-game settings for visual quality. I would not trust it.


You cannot upgrade from an AMD platform to an intel one without switching to the appropriate socket type for the intel CPU. If you want to upgrade to a Pentium, you will need to buy another motherboard and swap it out with your current one. This will involve waiting for parts to arrive, tearing down your entire system, taking everything out, putting in the new board, then putting everything else back in as well as rewiring everything, etc. This is all assuming your power supply can handle the new load, and you have all the right cables and connectors you need. It will be a lot of work, and you will want the help of an experienced builder if you are not familiar with modern PC building.

You will not need a new motherboard if you go with another FM2 compatible CPU. However, I am not sure if buying another APU is the right move for you, as all FM2 APUs will be quite old and slow compared to modern CPUs out on the market today. Again, can we get your Motherboard's model please? It will likely have FM2 in the name.

If you really feel it is worth the effort to upgrade to a G4350, I would strongly recommend a new build entirely. One that will take full advantage of all the parts you already have, otherwise you will likely be disappointed with the performance no matter what you change. You would need to talk to an experienced builder for some help choosing parts before you buy them. They would also need be there in person to help you put everything together in the new build, unless you are willing to put in the 120+ hours of research to learn everything you need to know to do it yourself.

Have you tried other games? Have you for sure identified the problem? The more information you give the more we can help.

Sorry for the bad news. Let me know what you are thinking.

-Bahazbz

well since i'm kinda newbie at this stuff i thought i could just change the CPU and put another but now i think it costs me too much changin the whole motherboard and other stuff so i think i will quit playing i think cause i spent a lot for now and i cant spend other infinite cash to re-doo my pc -.- yeah i know i should be bad but thats my mistake and i accept it , i was asking if i could even overlock it that would be my last chance of getting myself bvetter

 

[Bahazbz]

well since i'm kinda newbie at this stuff i thought i could just change the CPU and put another but now i think it costs me too much changin the whole motherboard and other stuff so i think i will quit playing i think cause i spent a lot for now and i cant spend other infinite cash to re-doo my pc -.- yeah i know i should be bad but thats my mistake and i accept it , i was asking if i could even overlock it that would be my last chance of getting myself bvetter

I can certainly understand the cash struggle. I recently dropped about $140 replacing a component in my current build that was malfunctioning. It sucks, but I get it.

About overclocking: I have very little experience with overclocking, and no experience overclocking APUs. You'll have to defer to another expert for that. If you are using a stock AMD cooler, one that came with the APU, it's likely not a good idea anyway.

If you get your heart is set on overclocking though, I would recommend heading over to www.overclock.net and asking preliminary questions to see if it is even possible to overclock an FM2 APU on your motherboard. I will warn you though, they are pretty high level on overclock.net, and they might not be as willing to help new people who are short on knowledge.

Alternatively you can search for a or create another thread here on toms hardware with the title "Overclocking an FM2 APU" with the tag "Overclocking" and "AMD" and "CPUs" and "Overclocking". This will allow you to ask more people of appropriate demographic to assist you. Experts for those tags should respond fairly quickly.

Otherwise, I'm sorry but, like you said, I think that just living with the poor performance in GTA for now might be your best bet. Let me know if you have the same problem in other games as well. If it the issue is widespread it will be easier to officially diagnose. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Any more questions?

-Wishing you luck
-Bahazbz