Question Very laggy performance in games after new SSD installed, even affects games on other drives ?

[pcspace]

Hi all. I recently posted a query on here that was a simple problem of me having my wires crossed, hoping this is just as simple!

I have recently installed a new SSD, Samsung EVO 870 in my PC. The PC itself is running smoothly, but when I launch games (which are located mainly on my WD Hard Drive) they are very, very choppy, almost as if the GPU is struggling. I never have had this problem previously, and have run most of my games from the HDD previously. Games in the new SSD also struggle.

I have 1 other SanDisk SSD, this Samsung EVO SSD and a WD Hard drive.

I have even unplugged the new SSD and still the games are choppy. I figure some kind of setting has been reset but I can't figure what. I've checked power management, all on high performance. I've reduced settings in the games.

I have checked temperatures, nothing is wrong. No abnormal disk usage that I can see. I have updated my graphics drivers.

I have tried to swap SATA and Power Cables inside the PC, and I've checked if Ive knocked anything out of place or loose, I can't see that I have.

My specs

Windows 10

16GB RAM

Intel i7 6700 CPU

NVidia GeForce 960

Samsung Evo 870 SSD

SanDisk SDSSDA120G SSD

WDC WD10EZEX 00WN4A0 Hardrive

500W power supply

Any ideas what might be causing this?

 

[Bob.B]

Hi all. I recently posted a query on here that was a simple problem of me having my wires crossed, hoping this is just as simple!

I have recently installed a new SSD, Samsung EVO 870 in my PC. The PC itself is running smoothly, but when I launch games (which are located mainly on my WD Hard Drive) they are very, very choppy, almost as if the GPU is struggling. I never have had this problem previously, and have run most of my games from the HDD previously. Games in the new SSD also struggle.

I have 1 other SanDisk SSD, this Samsung EVO SSD and a WD Hard drive.

I have even unplugged the new SSD and still the games are choppy. I figure some kind of setting has been reset but I can't figure what. I've checked power management, all on high performance. I've reduced settings in the games.

I have checked temperatures, nothing is wrong. No abnormal disk usage that I can see. I have updated my graphics drivers.

I have tried to swap SATA and Power Cables inside the PC, and I've checked if Ive knocked anything out of place or loose, I can't see that I have.

My specs

Windows 10

16GB RAM

Intel i7 6700 CPU

NVidia GeForce 960

Samsung Evo 870 SSD

SanDisk SDSSDA120G SSD

WDC WD10EZEX 00WN4A0 Hardrive

500W power supply

Any ideas what might be causing this?

Run this and post a LINK to the results page let's see if something shows out of wack.
PC Benchmark

 

[pcspace]

Run this and post a LINK to the results page let's see if something shows out of wack.
PC Benchmark

Thanks Bob, I have run the report, here it is: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/47608328

Certainly looks like there could be some issues, and the graphics card is older, but hasn't really struggled at all until now.

Cheers

 

[pcspace]

NOTE - I had stuff open with the other benchmark test, here's a link with only the benchmark app running.
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/47608413

 

[Bob.B]

NOTE - I had stuff open with the other benchmark test, here's a link with only the benchmark app running.
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/47608413

Do some house cleaning on the OS drive see if you can toss 20GB or so.

Run a pass of crystal disk info on the WD disk and post a screenshot.

 

[pcspace]

Thanks mate, managed to clear around 15GB from the OS drive. Above is the Crystal Disk Info screenshot for the WD hard drive.

Cheers

 

[Bob.B]

Thanks mate, managed to clear around 15GB from the OS drive. Above is the Crystal Disk Info screenshot for the WD hard drive.

Cheers

CDI for the WD looks fine.
Reboot and wait 5 mins then run UBM with the browser closed.
Post a LINK to the results page.

 

[pcspace]

CDI for the WD looks fine.
Reboot and wait 5 mins then run UBM with the browser closed.
Post a LINK to the results page.

Thanks Bob, please see link here: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/47610566

It appears to be struggling with 3D stuff in the games, for what it's worth. The 2D menus load and work fast. Minor observation.

Cheers

 

[Bob.B]

Thanks Bob, please see link here: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/47610566

It appears to be struggling with 3D stuff in the games, for what it's worth. The 2D menus load and work fast. Minor observation.

Cheers

I'm not a gamer so others will have to help in that area.

Do you have a ram cache app running for the sandisk?

Open device manager/disk/policies.
What options do you have set for each disk?

 

[pcspace]

I'm not a gamer so others will have to help in that area.

Do you have a ram cache app running for the sandisk?

Open device manager/disk/policies.
What options do you have set for each disk?

Each device has 'enable write caching on the device' ticked, the other option beneath it is unticked.

I thought maybe it was a power issue, I do have high performance enabled, but the PC seems to be able to handle the 3 drives at all other times.

 

[Bob.B]

Each device has 'enable write caching on the device' ticked, the other option beneath it is unticked.

I thought maybe it was a power issue, I do have high performance enabled, but the PC seems to be able to handle the 3 drives at all other times.

Where is this high performance?

 

[pcspace]

Where is this high performance?

Control Panel > Hardware and Sound > Power Options > High Performance.

Really not sure what could have caused this all of a sudden!

 

[Ralston18]

Use Task Manager and Resource Monitor to observe system performance. First while not gaming then while gaming.

Use both tools but only one tool at a time. Leave the window open and dragged to one side so you can watch what the system is doing when the lagging occurs.

Process Explorer may prove helpful as well. Free from Microsoft.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer

 

[Bob.B]

Control Panel > Hardware and Sound > Power Options > High Performance.

Really not sure what could have caused this all of a sudden!

2 things show in UBM which may or may not be a problem.

First is this ram cached thing on the 120GB disk.
No idea where that is coming from only you know how you have the machine setup.

Second is the WD disk seems quite slow.

Do you have optimize set up to run on a schedule for all disk?
If you do perhaps click the optimize button and let windows do it's thing.
After that's done reboot/wait/run UBM with the browser closed and post a LINK.

 

[pcspace]

Thanks both.

I have run resource monitor and task manager to see what is happening while lagging in-game. Nothing seems off about the usage; CPU sits at about 30%, memory 35%, disk usage 1-3%, GPU around 14%. No odd processes in resource monitor that i could see, there was a high 'system idle process', if that means anything. The majority of usage was taken up with the game.

Outside of gaming and with all else closed we sit at around 2% CPU, 27% memory (looks to be mainly Avast Antivirus), 2% disk usage, 0% GPU.

I can take screenshots if needed.

I've also optimised all the disks and they are on a weekly schedule. Here's the UBM: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/47636958

I'm not sure about the RAM cached disk - what exactly is this, how do I go about disabling this? I don't recall setting this up specifically on the SSD.

appreciate the help so far.

 

[Bob.B]

Thanks both.

I have run resource monitor and task manager to see what is happening while lagging in-game. Nothing seems off about the usage; CPU sits at about 30%, memory 35%, disk usage 1-3%, GPU around 14%. No odd processes in resource monitor that i could see, there was a high 'system idle process', if that means anything. The majority of usage was taken up with the game.

Outside of gaming and with all else closed we sit at around 2% CPU, 27% memory (looks to be mainly Avast Antivirus), 2% disk usage, 0% GPU.

I can take screenshots if needed.

I've also optimised all the disks and they are on a weekly schedule. Here's the UBM: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/47636958

I'm not sure about the RAM cached disk - what exactly is this, how do I go about disabling this? I don't recall setting this up specifically on the SSD.

appreciate the help so far.

The optimize did not help the WD speed any.

Ram cache is the preemptive copying of stuff from the disk into ram.
So that when you want it you don't have to wait for the disk it's already in the ram.
There are some apps that do this and samsung has this thing called rapid mode...no idea how that works.

Just a test.....turn off superfetch see what UBM says.

None of this disk stuff may have anything to do with the gaming problem.

 

[pcspace]

Alrighty, turned off superfetch, rebooted and UBM: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/47639493

No difference in lag unfortunately. Maybe it's a physical problem? Although I've checked over all my connections inside the PC. I don't know what kind of setting plugging a new SSD in would have reset my on my PC. Such an unusual problem lol.