Very slow booting, Ryzen ...????

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Very very very slow booting:eek:, Yes I know some issues are there with am4 mobo's , but each time when I switch on, it boots couple of time to enter OS and takes 2mins....
check video link....
[video="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvn38UF_xGc"][/video]

I set booting order:-
1 - Wd black 1tb - which has OS
2 - SSD - No OS
Booting couple of times are normal ....?????
Or
Do I need to change boot order or anything else......??????

My 2017 Rig:
Ryzen7 1700 - No overclocking, All set to Auto mode
Wraith Spire (set upto 2250rpm - 89% - 71degreecelsius)
Msi B350 Tomahawk
Gskill TridentZ 3200mhz 16gb(8*2) - Set to 2933mhz
Msi RX 480 Armor 8GB OC
WD Black 1tb 7200rpm
Samsung SSD EVO 850 240gb
DEEPCOOL MID TOWER CABINET (ATX) - DUKASE V2
Case Fan - 1 (running at 100% = 1200rpm)
Antec f19 fan - 2 (each running at 100% = 1200 rpm)
Arctic MX-4 Thermal Compound
LG 22MP68 22" Full HD IPS SLIM LED MONITOR (1920x1080)
Win10 Pro 64bit
 
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I dont have any old build.

Everything I mentioned here is new products for new build.
 
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As said above are you are trying to reuse an OS that was previously installed on another computer, if so that would likely be your issue.

I was just troubleshooting a friends ryzen rig and he had a similar problem. It was taking a few minutes to boot and we were using a very fast NVME ssd. Turns out to my surprise the system memory was causing it, timings were too low for the speed he was trying to run the memory at, which caused a lot of instability and very long boots for some reason. I increased the memory timings a bit and it was fine, booted in seconds and totally stable.
 
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Have you updated the bios, the slow post was fixed in one of the bios releases, also, that G.skill trident you have should run fine at 3200mhz once the bios is up to date, just set XMP profile 2 in the bios, leave all other memory settings at auto.

Bios files are here: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html#down-bios I can see by your post screen that you are not upto date, please dont try and flash from within windows, grab a USB stick, format to fat32, download and unzip the latest bios and copy the bios file to the USB stick, now reboot into the bios , in the save and exit menu select load defaults, then reboot back to the bios again, and this time select M-Flash, follow instructions from there, do not remove the usb stick until your computer finishes the flash, and has re posted and you are back in the bios setting it up again.

Please also confirm the following:
You have your drives set to ACHI mode
You have disabled any boot devices that are not there or you wont be using.
you have disabled any ports you wont be using, serial port, parallel port etc
your RAM is in slot 2 and 4

Also just wondering why you have the OS on the HDD and not on the SSD, if you prefer it that way, then disable the SSD as a boot device, as it will be getting scanned for a windows installation.

4 LEDs on the motherboard show you what is holding the system up.
 
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Thanks to remembering, updated BIOS , now it took 38secs to bootup, Selected XMP profile 2 and kept all other in Auto mode, But the RAM frequency is auto selected to 2133frequency
check below link for image :
https://goo.gl/wH8u7s

what should I do now.... Did I made any mistake....?
 
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try xmp profile 1 instead, its the same ram I have on the b350m Mortar, working when I set xmp profile 2, tomahawk and mortar are basically the same board, just an ATX vs mATX

Profile 2 is for 3200mhz
Profile 1 is for 3000mhz or 2933mhz

Also, in order to get it to fully work, I had to raise CPU NB voltage to 1.15v never higher than 1.2v, video below of my full settings, sorry about the shakes, only recorded on my phone, with 1 hand whilst trying to flick through settings.

https://youtu.be/JaQgj3PPTu8
 
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As you said XMP profile 1 works
https://goo.gl/aGJtk4
 
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Strange that profile 1 is working on your board, but profile 2 isnt, but its better than 2133mhz.

 
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whattttttttttttttttttt :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Noooooooo :no: :no: :no: :no:

I am not gng to giveup :no: :no: :no: :no:

Ok shall I follow all the settings from your video...... Is that working....

And what is your ambient temp....???? I saw in your vid , that shows 35'C in your BIOS.... But here I am getting 67'C in BIOS and easily it will reach 95'C in few mins in prime95 stress test without OC'ing and my ambient temp is around 36'C.......

And can you say that temp is good...?????
 
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What, nooooooo, those temps are bad, even for the stock cooler, didnt realise you were using the stock cooler, you need to shut down, remove that cooler, and re-apply your TIM, a very thin layer is all thats required, somethings not right there, the stock cooler is capable of overclocking upto 3.7ghz, but I wouldnt even push for that at your current temps. defo dont set those settings in my video, they will cook your processor on your current cooling, mine doesnt go above 60oC, im water cooling, 35oC if im using the machine, and if I leave it alone, it drops to 24oC.
 
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I am dead:pfff:
 
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Ambient temp here is about 25oC at the moment.

Tell me you DIDNT apply my settings ?

 
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Yes no OC'ing, atleast I can try it for RAM to get 3200mhz, right....!!!!
 
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Phew, I thought you had killed you cpu then, :gun:

Get that cooler off, remove all of your thermal paste, apply a very thin layer across the top of the whole CPU and then re mount the cooler, the TIM is there for 2 reasons, 1 is for thermal transfer, too much and it blocks heat from transfering, and the other is to replace microscopic imperfections in the metal of the heatsink and heat spreader, try and get it to sit flat whilst you screw it down, 1 turn of each screw at a time, those temps are way too high.

 
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Ok will do it and update the results.....


And here the results....
Removed and applied thin layer of TIM ,
Settings are XMP profile 1, disabled core performance, some changes to fans higher rpm's. others in auto mode

Prime95 blend test for 25mins , gradually increases upto 79'C and 20mins later decrease to 75'C
https://goo.gl/E5sIiB - while testing
https://goo.gl/1S4208 - after testing

Now tell me , is this good or ok or bad ....
 
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I have same mobo with Ryzen 1500x and my post timings are 10sec
To do so you will need to turn off all legacy features from bios
and turn on WHQL mode in bios (under boot options)
also remove unnecessary boot entries like usb floppy and all, just keep your hardsisk and uefi usb enabled
also use uefi only instead of legacy or hybrid
And I would suggest you to reinstalling your windows on SSD in gpt format
and at last update your bios to latest from here
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html
 
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