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Stoopkid12

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Hello everyone, I've been here before with this issue. In fact there's threads on it but none of them ever seem to be answered. I really hate the fact that I got this computer and built it and it's just such this huge let down 🙁

Anyways, enough crying lol. Here is the best detailed thread I made I can show you guys without retyping everything.

Link Here: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2284756/4770k-poor-performance.html

The only thing that has changed from that time was that now I am running completely on ethernet speed. With 60 up and 60 down. I even triple checked all the PC components were connected properly, so it's not that.

Now I have come with another piece of data that might help, I hope. I ran 3DMark 11 and here is the result.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4794871?

Now I was hoping someone with similar speccs or great knowledge of PC's can tell me whether or not I have a faulty PC component somewhere or I literally spent like $1,800 on this computer a year ago off Newegg for it to perform like this. If that's the case than I never want to
game again lol. Anyways, I hope you guys can help me fix this issue. I mean my friends computers aren't as good as mine and they get better performance in games and all that (wont go into too much detail since the explanation is in that first link to the previous thread).

I will try anything, and I appreciate your guys time to help me with this issue. Thanks
 
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Wow thats why you should go with AMD, I spent $1600 and have triple the frames of yours on 1080p hd
To the point, That should work well, can you enter a list on pc part picker and link it here?
Plus the hard drive, its frkn awful, I use the exact same as a secondary drive (Primary is Radeon R7 480GB SSD) and boy oh boy, when you run a game on it its HECKA slow.
Thats why you should buy a ssd.
 
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If something was defective, you wont be able to boot or you wont be able to OC..
If you can boot then you are perfectly fine.
If you can OC, you have those awesome hand picked chips.
So nothings defective.

Did you buy the HDD with the system or was it there?
 
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Did you see how much SSD's cost?
To get a one TB one you have to pay about $600....
 
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You mentioned your internet speed is ethernet, 60mbs up/down - ethernet to what? Ethernet is a home lan, it doesn't describe your actual internet connection (cable, dsl, wireless). Fast internet with poor lag will seem slower than reduced internet with lower lag (ttl, ping rates). Have you tried any games locally from just your hard drive in single player? (ie, not an online game, circumventing your internet connection.) For instance, even on my older machine I can play cod ghosts just fine on medium settings around 50-60fps - but that's locally. If I had to play online through steam, I may as well be playing solitaire because of my slow connection and lag.
 
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Ethernet connected to my modem.

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3930723269


 
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When I had these other threads on this, I ran all sorts of stuff to monitor it, seemed like the CPU was using like 1 core or thread or w/e it is to like 80%. So there is the 8 threads, it was using like 1 to 80% and like another to 30-40%. While I was low on fps on games. GPU didn't quite hit 100% if I recall correctly. Also the RAM is enabled as XMP profile in bios and I set it to 2400mhz. When I go into BIOS right next to XMP it says 1333mhz, but above it where it also says the CPU it says its at 2400mhz in parentheses

 
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This baffles me. By rights it should be doing quite well. I expect lower frames, i'm on a c2d e8400 with 8gb ddr2 ram, no ssd and crummy internet with an hd7850. The speed test results look good.

One thing that come to mind being the internet. It looks good on paper but it's still wireless and from my experiences wireless varies a lot from moment to moment. Signal fades in and out on a regular basis which could cause connection problems in game. Other than that, I'm truly stumped unless there's a software conflict someplace along the line or a driver issue or something's heating up and capping performance due to thermal limits on either cpu or gpu.
 
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WEll my internet never wavers now that I am hooked up to the modem. I think it has to be the HDD, like in games, espeically in World of Warcraft. Other people and objects take awhile to load. Like a good few minutes. Though my MS is like 9-13 and I don't ever lag latency wise so. I don't think its the GPU and CPU overheating, the GPU gets to like 70C sometimes, but I've never had my computer crash from heat, even during the summer. The CPU is like between 40-55C during games so.
 
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To quote a person who wrote a review on my HDD on newegg. "Newegg replaced with a seemingly working drive that is defective. It lasted less than a week. I hear the plates spinning. I installed Windows 7 Ultimate. It took awfully long to boot ( a few minutes). The drive I put back in was slower and booted in less than a minutes compared to over 5 minutes with this. Any operations such as opening any programs, browsers, disk tasks and such would take way too long. If I did not know about computers I would think it was me. When I tried using as a second drive it would not format"

That happens to my computer, maybe not 5 mins for windows but programs do take very long to load in the beginning. Super long loading screens.
 
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Like I said I'm stumped. You can definitely try another hdd. Hdd's aren't as fast as ssd, but they're not complete turtles either (like the old 5400rpm's with hardly any cache). I've had drives die, had the clicking, fail to boot etc. Never had one just move slow like that but I suppose anything is possible. Cod ghosts is about the newest game I have and it can take a little bit between scenes when it's loading - maybe a minute, but not much longer than that.
 
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I can say this, a long time ago I had issues with wd hard drives (late 90's early 2000's) and avoided them at all cost. I stuck with seagate for a long time after that and had pretty decent luck until around maybe 5yrs ago. Had a seagate that died. Replaced hdd's in two different machines with what were supposed to be 7200.10's. Both were doa. Sent them back and got 7200.9's as replacements (500gb). Those lasted maybe 2yrs, first one crashed then the other about a month later. The worst string of luck I've ever had with hdd's including the old hitachi deathstars. Went back to wd and haven't had an issue since. Seagate used to be really reliable and not sure what's happened but I've seen lots of issues with them in past recent years. Very well could be a hdd issue.
 
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Hmm well, any other thoughts? I think now its starting to like freeze up. When I'm on the internet, the computer or program will just freeze up, cant even exit the browser until it finishes its thought process.
 
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It could be a faulty hard drive. You can try this test from hdtune. Either download and use the free version or use the free trial of the pro version to check for read/write and s.m.a.r.t. data. Most of my hdd's haven't slowed down before they died, but i did get several crashes and intermittant errors at bootup that said failure to read system disk.

As for those temps you posted, those are within normal. Typically gpu temps run higher than cpu temps.
 
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Thanks for responding to my message. Are you running your game(s) across two monitors, or only playing on one and using the other for monitoring or whatever?
If the game-play is spread over two monitors, try running just on one, the biggest one, and see if that has an affect on frame rates.
That 770 card is a great card, but pushing two gaming monitors could be a little much for it.
Also, check your page file/virtual memory settings. I realize that with a bunch of RAM the page file shouldn't ever have to come-into-play, but have found that Windows has its own ideas and the virtual memory is used during gaming. I have 16GB of RAM, have never seen more then 55% of it used, but have checked (with after-burner) my usages after gaming and see large amounts of Page File use during the game. I have a 3TB drive so have manually set my file for 24493 initial size and Maximum size. (Somewhere I saw a recommendation for setting about 1.5X more then installed RAM). Don't know if this will do any good, but worth checking. Let me know if you have never done this, I'll take you through it.
My last comment and thought: It could be your video card or CPU. A call to Intel Support might be warranted. Another forum member and I worked with a person this past spring and summer trying to track down crashes and slow downs; we were all at the end of our ropes cause nothing was working. Turned out his relatively new CPU was bad ! That was a first for me, but they can be bad.
Without going back over your threads I don't recall if you have tried this: borrow, or maybe even buy, another video card and see if that solves the problem. If you bought one from a reputable retailer/etailer and it doesn't solve the problem then you can return it, or if it solves the problem and you can get your 770 warrantied out.
 
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