Question Very slow PC

[Hiatro]

Hello, recently I bought used Msi B450 Tomahawk with R5 3600, I bought a new R5 5600 and then I wanted to update BIOS so I can plug the 5600. First I tried it with Flashback+ which wasn't successful - I plugged in USB Disk, clicked the button got red light, the Pc turned on by itself and then turned off and the light stood on. I froze, but when I tried to turn the Pc on again it did without problems. In the end I managed to update bios via m-flash and install the new CPU. But new problem occured, everything is very laggy and slow - BIOS, files moving, windows itself, any app, just everything. Temperatures don't go above 40°. I tried reseating RAMs, trying single sticks, different GPU, different PSU, nothing helped. I have no more access to the old CPU, however, what could be the problem? Thank you

 

[beyondlogic]

Hello, recently I bought used Msi B450 Tomahawk with R5 3600, I bought a new R5 5600 and then I wanted to update BIOS so I can plug the 5600. First I tried it with Flashback+ which wasn't successful - I plugged in USB Disk, clicked the button got red light, the Pc turned on by itself and then turned off and the light stood on. I froze, but when I tried to turn the Pc on again it did without problems. In the end I managed to update bios via m-flash and install the new CPU. But new problem occured, everything is very laggy and slow - BIOS, files moving, windows itself, any app, just everything. Temperatures don't go above 40°. I tried reseating RAMs, trying single sticks, different GPU, different PSU, nothing helped. I have no more access to the old CPU, however, what could be the problem? Thank you

was the windows os from a old build if so then its gonna run like ass because that windows is looking for old files and drivers that arent there.

i would do a fresh install of windows first.

 

[Hiatro]

was the windows os from a old build if so then its gonna run like ass because that windows is looking for old files and drivers that arent there.

i would do a fresh install of windows first.

Sorry I thought this was sure thing, windows was reinstalled. Even tried both Win 10 and Win 11

 

[stonecarver]

Did you clear the BIOS after the BIOS update. Meaning remove the battery or jump the clearing pins.

 

[Hiatro]

Did you clear the BIOS after the BIOS update. Meaning remove the battery or jump the clearing pins.

yup, several times.

 

[beyondlogic]

yup, several times.

have 1 stick of ram in slot 2.

only have the 1 harddrive which contains the os.

what ram are you using ?

also make sure there are no additional stand offs under the pcb as this can cause a short.

 

[Hiatro]

have 1 stick of ram in slot 2.

only have the 1 harddrive which contains the os.

what ram are you using ?

also make sure there are no additional stand offs under the pcb as this can cause a short.

just tried that, no difference.

 

[Hiatro]

have 1 stick of ram in slot 2.

only have the 1 harddrive which contains the os.

what ram are you using ?

also make sure there are no additional stand offs under the pcb as this can cause a short.

I tried rebuilding it to another case in case of some short. Still the same thing

 

[Hiatro]

Any new Ideas please?

 

[Bob.B]

Any new Ideas please?

See if you can run this.

Please click the green human to continue - UserBenchmark

If it will let you in.... run it with the browser closed and post a link to the results page.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Did you clear the BIOS after the BIOS update. Meaning remove the battery or jump the clearing pins.

yup, several times.

This is known as CMOS Clear.

If done correctly, you would have been presented with a different screen at boot, which would ask you to go to the bios and reconfigure it. Did that happen, or did you not have to go back to the bios to set ram XMP?

Please list your full PC specs, including PSU etc.

How much space are on your drive. Is it an HDD or an SSD. How much ram is in the system?

Are all system driver, specifically 'chipset' drivers up to date?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Any new Ideas please?

Don't bump posts. Forum rules. The community will get back to asap, when they can.

 

[SkyNetRising]

Any new Ideas please?

Which BIOS version did you update to?
What was the old BIOS version?

 

[Ralston18]

Run Task Manager, Resource Monitor, and Process Explorer (Microsoft, free) to observe system performance.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer

Use all three tools but only one tool at a time.

The objective being to discover what the system is doing or trying to do when performance is slow.

Could be some buggy or corrupted app running and consuming system resources.

Check Task Manager > Startup and Task Scheduler for unknown or unexpected apps etc. that may be being launched or triggered.

 

[Hiatro]

See if you can run this.

Please click the green human to continue - UserBenchmark

If it will let you in.... run it with the browser closed and post a link to the results page.

rn im trying another ssd and the windows install is taking very long.

 

[Hiatro]

This is known as CMOS Clear.

If done correctly, you would have been presented with a different screen at boot, which would ask you to go to the bios and reconfigure it. Did that happen, or did you not have to go back to the bios to set ram XMP?

Please list your full PC specs, including PSU etc.

How much space are on your drive. Is it an HDD or an SSD. How much ram is in the system?

Are all system driver, specifically 'chipset' drivers up to date?

Yes I had to go to BIOS and set XPM again.
Mobo: Msi Tomahawk B450
CPU: R5 5600
GPU: Gainward RTX 3060 Ti
RAM: 2x8GB HyperX 3600 MHz
SSD: Apacer AS2280P4U Pro 1TB or Samsung 870 EVO 256GB (tried both)
PSU: Enermax Liberty 500W or Evolveo FX 500 (tried both)

I performed clean install on both disks so nothing besides windows is on the disk. Afer installing windows I installed all of the latest drivers available.

 

[Hiatro]

Which BIOS version did you update to?
What was the old BIOS version?

I don't really remember the old version, but it was older than 7C02v1I as it didn't support R5 5600.

 

[Hiatro]

Run Task Manager, Resource Monitor, and Process Explorer (Microsoft, free) to observe system performance.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer

Use all three tools but only one tool at a time.

The objective being to discover what the system is doing or trying to do when performance is slow.

Could be some buggy or corrupted app running and consuming system resources.

Check Task Manager > Startup and Task Scheduler for unknown or unexpected apps etc. that may be being launched or triggered.

Don't think it's windows problem as it is laggy even in BIOS, loading Windows from USB etc..

 

[SkyNetRising]

I don't really remember the old version, but it was older than 7C02v1I as it didn't support R5 5600.

Which BIOS version did you update to?
Did you update to any of BETA versions?

Try going back to latest non-BETA version.

 

[Hiatro]

Which BIOS version did you update to?
Did you update to any of BETA versions?

Try going back to latest non-BETA version.

I tried latest stable and even the BETA version, the same result.

 

[SkyNetRising]

I tried latest stable and even the BETA version, the same result.

Ok. I guess it's a secret.
You do not want to reveal BIOS version number, you updated to.

 

[Hiatro]

Ok. I guess it's a secret.
You do not want to reveal BIOS version number, you updated to.

7C02v1I