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Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

Hi:

I need a recommendation for a gaming video card for my son. He is playing
Rome: Total War which requires Direct 9x compatability, which my present
$20 card lacks (it is also 3 years old). What factors are worth paying the
money for in other words is GPU and Memory clock speed important. Going
from 400 - 600 MHz on the GPU worth an extra $20. I am presently
considering a POWERCOLOR R96E-TD3 Radeon 9600XT 256MB 128-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X
for $92 at NewEgg. It has 128 bit interface and 256 MB of RAM. I also like
the fact that it does not require its own power cable because I think all
the molux outputs from my power supply are used. The other question is that
some cards have flowery language about 3D and texture processing or
anti-aliasing. Will these extra processors make a difference or are all
cores basically the same.

TIA,

Pete
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

"Peter Harrington" <pharring@columbus.rr.com> wrote:

> I need a recommendation for a gaming video card for my son. He
> is playing Rome: Total War which requires Direct 9x
> compatability, which my present $20 card lacks (it is also 3
> years old). What factors are worth paying the money for in
> other words is GPU and Memory clock speed important. Going from
> 400 - 600 MHz on the GPU worth an extra $20. I am presently
> considering a POWERCOLOR R96E-TD3 Radeon 9600XT 256MB 128-bit
> DDR AGP 4X/8X for $92 at NewEgg.

Currently I would think 9800 Pro or better for a gaming video
card.

> It has 128 bit interface and 256 MB of RAM.

A lot of memory does not necessarily mean faster.
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

I have installed sapphire radeon 9600 chips in 2 computers a year ago and
haven't heard any complaints. They have 256 mb vid ram and they go for $130
Canadian plus that excellent tax. Though I have used ati for about 7 years
now I think Gforce may be the better way as ati may be in some financial
difficulty.( according to the latest maximum pc mag)

"Peter Harrington" <pharring@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:TU5We.22907$uD6.7965@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Hi:
>
> I need a recommendation for a gaming video card for my son. He is playing
> Rome: Total War which requires Direct 9x compatability, which my present
> $20 card lacks (it is also 3 years old). What factors are worth paying
> the money for in other words is GPU and Memory clock speed important.
> Going from 400 - 600 MHz on the GPU worth an extra $20. I am presently
> considering a POWERCOLOR R96E-TD3 Radeon 9600XT 256MB 128-bit DDR AGP
> 4X/8X for $92 at NewEgg. It has 128 bit interface and 256 MB of RAM. I
> also like the fact that it does not require its own power cable because I
> think all the molux outputs from my power supply are used. The other
> question is that some cards have flowery language about 3D and texture
> processing or anti-aliasing. Will these extra processors make a
> difference or are all cores basically the same.
>
> TIA,
>
> Pete
>
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

John Doe wrote:
> "Peter Harrington" <pharring@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I need a recommendation for a gaming video card for my son. He
>>is playing Rome: Total War which requires Direct 9x
>>compatability, which my present $20 card lacks (it is also 3
>>years old). What factors are worth paying the money for in
>>other words is GPU and Memory clock speed important. Going from
>>400 - 600 MHz on the GPU worth an extra $20. I am presently
>>considering a POWERCOLOR R96E-TD3 Radeon 9600XT 256MB 128-bit
>>DDR AGP 4X/8X for $92 at NewEgg.
>
>
> Currently I would think 9800 Pro or better for a gaming video
> card.
>

Overkill for his specified use. A 6600GT based card would be slightly
better, especially considering price differences.

>
>>It has 128 bit interface and 256 MB of RAM.
>
>
> A lot of memory does not necessarily mean faster.

True.


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Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

Peter Harrington wrote:

" I need a recommendation for a gaming video card for my son. "


If you state your components then people can then get a better idea of
compatibility.
 
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"Cuzman" <cuzNOSPAM@supanet.com> wrote in message
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> Peter Harrington wrote:
>
> " I need a recommendation for a gaming video card for my son. "
>
>
> If you state your components then people can then get a better idea of
> compatibility.

Thanks to all the replies. I mentioned the 256 MB of video RAM, because
ROME will detect it and use it when available.
The system is an AMD XP 1900+ (not overclocked chip) with 512 MB DDR (333
MHz) RAM running Windoze XP Pro SP2. There is plenty of fragmented
harddrive space. The board is an Epox 8k5A with a 4X AGP slot. Once the
caps pop on this board like our other Epox boards, we plan on replacing the
board and the processor.

TIA,

Pete
 
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"Peter Harrington" <pharring@columbus.rr.com> wrote in
news:TU5We.22907$uD6.7965@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:

> Hi:
>
> I need a recommendation for a gaming video card for my son. He is
> playing Rome: Total War which requires Direct 9x compatability, which
> my present $20 card lacks (it is also 3 years old). What factors are
> worth paying the money for in other words is GPU and Memory clock
> speed important. Going from 400 - 600 MHz on the GPU worth an extra
> $20. I am presently considering a POWERCOLOR R96E-TD3 Radeon 9600XT
> 256MB 128-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X for $92 at NewEgg. It has 128 bit
> interface and 256 MB of RAM. I also like the fact that it does not
> require its own power cable because I think all the molux outputs from
> my power supply are used. The other question is that some cards have
> flowery language about 3D and texture processing or anti-aliasing.
> Will these extra processors make a difference or are all cores
> basically the same.
>
> TIA,
>
> Pete
>
>

I'd suggest this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122212

änd then Google "6800le unlocking"

I got one last week and it flies. 128MB, 256-bit. Comes with a splitter
for the P/S.

Pete (too)
 
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"Peter Harrington" <pharring@columbus.rr.com> schreef in bericht
news:f7fWe.36906$vJ4.23077@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> "Cuzman" <cuzNOSPAM@supanet.com> wrote in message
> news:dgbrrq$nuv$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
> > Peter Harrington wrote:
> >
> > " I need a recommendation for a gaming video card for my son. "
> >
> >
> > If you state your components then people can then get a better idea of
> > compatibility.
>
> Thanks to all the replies. I mentioned the 256 MB of video RAM, because
> ROME will detect it and use it when available.
> The system is an AMD XP 1900+ (not overclocked chip) with 512 MB DDR (333
> MHz) RAM running Windoze XP Pro SP2. There is plenty of fragmented
> harddrive space. The board is an Epox 8k5A with a 4X AGP slot. Once the
> caps pop on this board like our other Epox boards, we plan on replacing
the
> board and the processor.
>
> TIA,
>
> Pete
>
> To put your mind at ease,rome,total war runs great on a TI4400/128mb.
So purchasing an ati radeon 9600pro would be sufficient for this task.
However the speed of your cpu is very important also,because i ran the game
on a xp2400 with 1Gb ram.
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia (More info?)

I am thinking now of getting a Geforce 6200 and trying to unlock the extra
pipes using RivaTune so it mods to a 6600. Has anyone tried this mod? Is
the probability of success 100% or 50% or less?

The specific card that I was going to try is a
eVGA 256-A8-N327-LX Geforce 6200 256MB 128-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card -
Retail

TIA,

Pete

"Peter Harrington" <pharring@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:TU5We.22907$uD6.7965@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Hi:
>
> I need a recommendation for a gaming video card for my son. He is playing
> Rome: Total War which requires Direct 9x compatability, which my present
> $20 card lacks (it is also 3 years old). What factors are worth paying
> the money for in other words is GPU and Memory clock speed important.
> Going from 400 - 600 MHz on the GPU worth an extra $20. I am presently
> considering a POWERCOLOR R96E-TD3 Radeon 9600XT 256MB 128-bit DDR AGP
> 4X/8X for $92 at NewEgg. It has 128 bit interface and 256 MB of RAM. I
> also like the fact that it does not require its own power cable because I
> think all the molux outputs from my power supply are used. The other
> question is that some cards have flowery language about 3D and texture
> processing or anti-aliasing. Will these extra processors make a
> difference or are all cores basically the same.
>
> TIA,
>
> Pete
>
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia (More info?)

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 02:56:52 GMT, "Peter Harrington"
<pharring@columbus.rr.com> wrote:

>I am thinking now of getting a Geforce 6200 and trying to unlock the extra
>pipes using RivaTune so it mods to a 6600. Has anyone tried this mod? Is
>the probability of success 100% or 50% or less?
>
>The specific card that I was going to try is a
>eVGA 256-A8-N327-LX Geforce 6200 256MB 128-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card -
>Retail
>
>TIA,
>
>Pete
>

The newer batches of 6200 cards are being shipped with the
NV44 chip instead of the NV43. The NV44 has only 4 pixelpipes on it,
and no masked pipes like the NV43 6200s did. There is no extra pipes.
The best way I know to tell if the AGP version still has the NV43 chip
is that the NV44 equipped versions don't have the HSI chip, and the
card doesn't have external IDE power connector.
Don't know if any of the PCI-E cards could have the extra
pipes unlocked, or not, but since the PCI-E versions never had the HSI
chip, or an external IDE power connector, it would be hard to tell
which NV chip is used.
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia (More info?)

Larry Roberts wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 02:56:52 GMT, "Peter Harrington"
> <pharring@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >I am thinking now of getting a Geforce 6200 and trying to unlock the extra
> >pipes using RivaTune so it mods to a 6600. Has anyone tried this mod? Is
> >the probability of success 100% or 50% or less?
> >
> >The specific card that I was going to try is a
> >eVGA 256-A8-N327-LX Geforce 6200 256MB 128-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card -
> >Retail
> >
> >TIA,
> >
> >Pete
> >
>
> The newer batches of 6200 cards are being shipped with the
> NV44 chip instead of the NV43. The NV44 has only 4 pixelpipes on it,
> and no masked pipes like the NV43 6200s did. There is no extra pipes.
> The best way I know to tell if the AGP version still has the NV43 chip
> is that the NV44 equipped versions don't have the HSI chip, and the
> card doesn't have external IDE power connector.
> Don't know if any of the PCI-E cards could have the extra
> pipes unlocked, or not, but since the PCI-E versions never had the HSI
> chip, or an external IDE power connector, it would be hard to tell
> which NV chip is used.

FWIW, XFX indicate the chip version in the model numbers they give to
their cards. According to their website, they have 4 models using the
NV43 GPU - 2 in AGP and 2 in PCI-E.
 
To make it simple... Unless you spend 300$ on a card your never going to see AA or AF or any good shading.
So dont get pulled in by thoughs nice nvidia speeches on how nice the graphics are all there trying to do is sell the card.

For a budget pc id say get a 6800 256mb card (just the 6800 one not le or se or whatever) Or grab a 6600gt 128 card there realy nice for the price there gona run your about 110$. On the ATI side 9600xt is nice too.
 
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