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Thanks David,
I neglected to specify that I live in Holland, so at least some of
your options are not available to me. You've given me some food for
thought though.
Love
Crow
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 18:26:48 -0700, David Chien <chiendh@uci.edu>
wrote:
>Not in any order.
>
>* www.apple.com
>Apple G4 notebook + Final Cut Pro
>
> Tried & true. Works, Cold Mountain was recently done with Apples.
>
> Killer price for the notebook and software easily equals a system
>that will exceed the $3000-4000 price range immediately.
>
>*
http://emachines.com/products/products.html?prod=eMachines_M6809
>eMachines M6809 + Your choice of video editor. (here, my choice goes to
>Vegas Video -- solid as a rock, many happy wedding videos come out fine,
>and super-easy to learn. There's a good reason Sony bought Vegas Video
>from Sonic Foundry vs. the, IMO, lesser Avid/Premiere/etc. products.
>After all, it's not like Sony doesn't have enough money to buy all of
>Avid or Adobe & their products if they wanted to....)
>
> One of the fastest and most powerful laptops on this planet, it
>kills almost anything that isn't running an Athlon 64-bit processor, and
>definitely everything else out there at this price or lower.
>
>
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1537028,00.asp
> March 2004 review says "We expect others to follow suit, but for
>now the M6807 can boast the ==best performance scores of any notebook==
>we've tested to date."
>
> Yes, you can find faster, but not at the ~$1600 price this baby
>sells for at Bestbuy.com
> For under $2000, you can have a system that will nuke an Apple G4
>notebook off the planet, and run rings around other lesser notebooks
>while laughing to the bank with your savings. (or put the difference
>into a nice 3CCD camcorder)
>
> One of the better rated notebooks on cnet.com by users:
>http://reviews.cnet.com/eMachines_M6000_series/4852-3121_7-30674686.html?tag=tab
>
>*
http://www.1beyond.com/products/3417.asp?search=laptops
>http://www.discountlaptops.com/index.php?section=catagory&include_type=sager
>http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/featured_notebook_od?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
>
> 1Beyond DV Pro 3417, Sager 17" 8790 series, Dell XPS
>
> Okay, who else has a 3.4Ghz P4 CPU in a 17" widescreen notebook with
>dual HDs or a single HD + TV tuner option, or a brand-name? These
>notebook makers have always had unique options, and they seriously pack
>a lot of computing into a notebook (more like luggable PC given their
>10lbs weight)
>
> However, given their heavy weight, high price (usually $2400-3000+),
>and hot processor, do they really run faster than the eMachines killer?
>
> Nope: eg. Dell XPS 3.4Ghz
> Winstone 2004: 17.1
> Multimedia : 25.8
> 3DMark 2003 : 2489
>
> eg. eMachines M6807 Athlon 64 3000+ (the latest M6809 has an
>even faster 3200+ processor)
> Winstone 2004: 19.7
> Multimedia : 23.7
> 3dMark 2003 : 2451 (M6805 model)
> 3dMark 2001 : 9067
>
> That said, the Athlon 64 processor is an excellent CPU and the
>eMachines notebook at $1600 is a super bargain vs. the $2400+
>alternatives which don't run significantly faster, if at all.
>
>* Sony A series (17" LCD monsters w/TV tuner), GRT series (15/16" w/TV
>tuner), TR Series (10", 3.1lbs)
>
>http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start;sid==?CategoryName=cpu_VAIONotebookComputers&Dept=cpu
>
> Here, you've got some of the juiciest screens found on a notebook
>(those XBrite screen models are stunning!), built-in TV tuners on the A
>& GRT series, crazy things like some of the first models out with a 2Ghz
>Pentium M processor (A series, $600 option), standard Sony
>video/photo/music editing software & DV compatibility (almost for sure
>these notebooks will work fine with their Vegas Video video editing
>software), and the pure coolness of having something to talk about when
>visitors come.
>
> TR series along with the Fujitsu P5000 series
>(http://webshop.fujitsupc.com/fpc/Ecommerce/buildseriesbean.do?series=P5)
>are among the lightest all-in-one ~3lbs 1Ghz P-M notebooks you can buy
>today, and certain light and easy on any lap for hours of video editing.
>
> Models with built-in DVD burners make them the lightest DVD burning
>notebooks on the planet. Let's you say, "here, why don't I whip out my
>3lbs baby and show you my latest 2 hour movie. want a copy, here, let
>me burn a DVD now." But at half the speed of the above, definitely a
>slower choice.
>
>-------------------------------
>
> As for cool & quite & long, forget it! No such thing unless you
>want a slow notebook. Sadly, none of these super-fast notebooks will
>give you these features, so you'll have to consider a balanced tradeoff
>between long battery life (usually heavy and/or slow), quiet (usually
>light and/or slow), and cool (say what?!? you don't even want to put an
>Apple on a fluffy fleece bedspread nowadays!).
>
> Here's what I'd say, unless you're gonna keep the baby on your lap
>for long periods at a time, it's gonna be on a desk. So don't worry
>about the cool part. Battery? Tough trade-off between fast performance
>and slower processor, so you decide. Quite - they've almost all got
>fans in them nowadays, so don't bother.
>
> Finally, unless you've got the BudgetFromGod, you can't beat the
>eMachines M6809 for performance, specs, and useability for the task at
>$1600. You can easily spend the difference for a nice 3CCD DV
>Camcorder, a trip to Europe for a week, etc. and match the output from
>the other notebooks easily with less money spent.
>
> My pick? eMachines M6809 + Vegas Video (esp. at the $249.99 buy
>it now price they've got it on ebay.com for a new, unopened package
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1251&item=3681124750&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)
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