Vista Blues

[hyteck9]

I got a new laptop with 4 gigs of ram and a SSD and XP boots in 9 sec!!! But Vista Home premium takes 2.5 minutes? Why Does Vista suck that much?

 

[notherdude]

Why does Vista suck that much? It doesn't, there is something wrong at your end.

Your 9 second XP boot time is probably a world record. I'd drop everything and contact Guinness immediately.

 

[badge]

Why does Vista suck that much. I'd drop everything and contact Guinness immediately.

Yeah, 9 seconds is boss? By comparison, consider how many years it took for him to grow his remarkable, guinness quality earhair.

 

[hyteck9]

Wow... This was so not helpful. Seriously, I'd happily leave XP-64 on the machine as its rockin' fast but they don't make XP-64 drivers for the HD-Audio, web cam and TV-tuner built into the laptop so I'm forced to go Vista... What might be wrong that is causing the performance issue? I loaded Vista off a recovery disk... do you think a fresh install might have a better chance?

 

[badge]

Start with the basics. If you are using a fresh install, Vista takes a while of system usage time for Superfetch to log which apps are used most often and apply those settings.

Vista uses Superfetch to address RAM usage. XP uses the old Prefetch which is much less proficient than Superfetch at addressing system memory.

More memory and Superfetch.

Superfetch.

 

[badge]

hyteck9 wrote:

Why Does Vista suck that much?

The regulars in the Vista Forum for the past two years perceive this post as, 'I have a problem about Vista so 'it sucks'. In the future posting a negative suck comment will not get you much help other than to address your nOObish suck reference.

 

[hyteck9]

Let me correct my noobish suck reference... Why Does Vista suck up so many resources? That is what I meant. Why is it so top-heavy? Does it really have soooo many services running that even with a Solid State drive performance gains are hardly noticable?

 

[notherdude]

I tried to edit my sarcastic response earlier but the board was having issues - the submit button was missing, seriously, I'm not joking.

Your answer is almost certainly the crapware/crapletts installed by OEMs on new machines. Vista and XP start up in about the same amount of time. XP may be slightly faster ( by a few seconds or so) but not THAT much faster. Crapware and the stale drivers and useless applets installed by OEM are FAMOUS for slowing boot timers massively. Do a fresh install of Vista and your troubles will vanish.

This is a well known issue and affects XP machines equally. My friends fairly new XP laptop takes about six minutes to get to usability.

I assume this is a Vista install that was on the new machine and you put XP on yourself? If not then your issue is still related to loading software or bad drivers - I assure you Vista loads fast enough when properly configured. Thanks to all the mindless Vista bashing out there everybody now ASSUMES their PC problems are Vista's fault when, as always, the issues are related to software/drivers.

My Vista 64 booted to usability in about minute or so on a regular hard drive. It takes a lot longer now that I have installed a massive amount of stuff but thrn again XP was famous for getting slower and slower over time. So far Vista seems better than XP did in this regard.

 

[hyteck9]

you are correct. the XP-64 was a fresh install... I was so sad that drivers couldn't be found for everything. the Vista install was from the OEM recovery disc complete with Nortan 30 trials, Office 60 trial, etc.. etc... Foolish of me to think that they would put a "healthy" image on a new machine.

I have the Windows 7 beta 64-bit but can't get all the drivers for that either. *sigh*

Since I didn't get a Vista Home premium disc with the laptop, just the recovery disc, that leaves me with XP-32 (which I own a license for and they make drivers for) or shelling out cash for a fresh Vista disc... which at that point is it worth going to Vista-64 Ultimate? Not sure.

maybe best to ride XP-32 until W7 comes along.

 

[hyteck9]

Also, the 9 second Boot time was true... but using XP-64 and if you recall I couldn't get drivers for everything so I can't really say it booted "fully loaded". Know what I mean? No audio drivers, no TV tuner drivers, No web cam drivers... so I'm sure that contributed to the quick load time... it got to "skip over" lots of stuff.

 

[notherdude]

Also, the 9 second Boot time was true... but using XP-64 and if you recall I couldn't get drivers for everything so I can't really say it booted "fully loaded". Know what I mean? No audio drivers, no TV tuner drivers, No web cam drivers... so I'm sure that contributed to the quick load time... it got to "skip over" lots of stuff.

Try this: http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/ you should also use msconfig to take as much stuff out of the startup as possible and then also manually upgrade drivers and probably BIOS too. You may be able to tame the crapware but then again you may not be able to get all of it.

I re-read the part about having an SSD and was going to edit that part about the world record out too, sorry

wow 9 seconds, has it come to that with SSDs? If so I've got to get me one of those. What brand/model do you have?

 

[hyteck9]

I went with a SUPER TALENT 64GB.. I was skeptical so I went with a smaller cheaper one ($135 i think?).

I'm sold.

Should I actually fill this one up (not for games) I will have no issues paying for a bigger size.

 

[4Ryan6]

I went with a SUPER TALENT 64GB.

64GB??? LOL I have more music files on my machine than that.

Maybe Vista is looking for the rest of your HDD!

Sorry no offense hyteck9, I couldn't resist razzin ya.