Useless E cores that don’t help any gamer, way less efficient and clearly slower, so that’s not quite true and there are reviews on toms that prove this. Stay with the facts. The 5800X3D is by far the best gaming CPU at the moment.
The 5800X3D is an excellent gaming cpu no doubt. With that said Alder Lake boards not only offer PCIe 5.0 along with DDR5 but will be compatible with Intel 13 gen cpu's (Meteor Lake).
No doubt he can buy the 12700F it’s a good price, but it’s not near the performance of 5800X3D. Half-a**ed PCIE 5 that is useless anyway and ultra expensive DDR5 that cost more than the CPU itself won’t help it either. And it’s questionable if he will replace the CPU, most users don’t replace CPUs within one generation and 13th gen will be the last gen that will be supported by that platform.The 5800X3D is an excellent gaming cpu no doubt. With that said Alder Lake boards not only offer PCIe 5.0 along with DDR5 but will be compatible with Intel 13 gen cpu's (Meteor Lake).
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-12700F-2-1GHz-6xxChipset-BX8071512700F/dp/B09NPJDPVG/
Intel Core i7-12700F $312.97
That facts are as I stated them; The 12700k is nearly as fast for gaming as the 5800X3D, the 12700k is overall much faster for a much larger variety of programs, the 12700k is as nearly power efficient under light loads, the 12700k is much cheaper than the 5800X3D. This is coming from someone with a 5800X3D who has built many 12700k / non-k systems.
It doesn’t matter, the 5800X3D was proven by multiple websites and outfits in YouTube that it’s by average even faster than the 12900KS with overclocking and the 5800X3D can’t overclock. So what you’re saying is clearly false. Clock speed isn’t relevant, IPC is, and the 5800X3D has by far the highest IPC of any cpu right now.
Since when is 50$ much cheaper? Lol. And nearly as fast isn’t quite true, cause the 5800X3D demolishes anything of Intel in some games right now and is simply faster in others. With the higher board costs, it’s also a wash price wise. If anything Intel, it’s the 12600K or 12700F as the other guy mentioned. Those are price effective at least.
The 12700k / f is essentially the same CPU as the 12700k. I chose the 12700k because it can perform better if the OP was willing to tinker. Effectively the 12700f is 150 dollars cheaper and the 12700k is 70 dollars cheaper than the 5800X3D. My 12700k build is 100 dollars+ cheaper than a comparable 5800X3D build. Since the OP is getting a 1440p + screen and will be using VR the 12700k and the 5800X3D will be almost identical to each other in performance. You believe there to be a much higher difference between the Intel and AMD CPUs in regards performance but I assume that is because you are cherry picking games at 1080p. As someone who owns a 5800X3D and uses a 165hz 1440p screen I can tell you there is less than a 10% difference in fps in almost every game I have played compared to my friends 12700k system I built. The benchmarks support my position.
www.digitaltrends.com
What I'd like to know is why the 12700K is recommended so often when the 12700F uses less power, runs cooler and is less expensive yet trails the 12700K by a whopping one FPS at 1080P.
I’m not cherry picking anything, I’m reading a lot of reviews and understanding them, that’s what I do, I don’t assume things like many other people do, or go into threads with a reserved opinion on everything. It was proven multiple times that the 5800X3D not only is the most efficient cpu by far but also the fastest. In cherry picked games, it destroys the competition, there’s no competition. In other games it’s just clearly faster, worst case it’s same speed or a bit slower. 12700K and lower have no chance against it, even the 12900KS loses against it.
Nice cherry picking but https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-review is already proving that I’m right, so I won’t care much. It’s also only one source, I can provide more if needed. It’s such a easy argument to win, since the facts are the facts.A very similar conversation happened yesterday. People just pick and choose what numbers to use. Here is some random evidence disputing that claim:
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D review: The world's fastest gaming CPU | Digital Trends
AMD's Ryzen 7 5800X3D is the best gaming CPU you can buy, but it's also a sign of what's to come from Team Red and 3D V-Cache in the future.
Showing the 5950X and 12900K outperforming the 5800X3D in a few games, tying one more.
But it really is straightforward: CPU benchmarks are done under specific circumstances. A very high end GPU running a low resolution and potentially low settings. This is to show off what the processor CAN do.
Very few people will actually run their setups like that.
Nitpicking on typos won’t help you either,
bizarre.
Language clearly suggests otherwise. Maybe we should bring a language professor into this as well?
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